Ukraine-Russia peace talks to start this friday in Munich

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Peace is the time for vultures to fly over Ukraine
helping themselves with pillaging resources in a
devastated defenceless country after killing stops.
Trump, Putin and Zelensky have to find the terms and
conditions for Russian, American, European and later
Chinese vultures to agree on before they embark in their ventures.
 

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Peace is the time for vultures to fly over Ukraine
helping themselves with pillaging resources in a
devastated defenceless country after killing stops.
Trump, Putin and Zelensky have to find the terms and
conditions for Russian, American, European and later
Chinese vultures to agree on before they embark in their ventures.
must be nice to sit somewhere safe and just let the war keep going...
 

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Peace is the time for vultures to fly over Ukraine
helping themselves with pillaging resources in a
devastated defenceless country after killing stops.
Trump, Putin and Zelensky have to find the terms and
conditions for Russian, American, European and later
Chinese vultures to agree on before they embark in their ventures.
Before anything can be agreed the Rada will have to vote to provide Zelensky a mandate. And any deal will have to be ratified by the Rada. Zelenskys term has expired according to the constitution
 

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It looks a lot like the " Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" is no longer operative.
This may end up looking like Trump's negotiation in Afghanistan, where one of the sides will be cut out of the bargaining.
It would fit with his "let's carve things up by spheres of influence" view where the US will concentrate on ruling the Western hemisphere.
 
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Ukraine will not join NATO.

Putin won.

Long live Mother Russia!
Putin will refuse to allow Ukraine to join NATO as a condition for ending the war. It would not be surprising if he also insisted that Ukraine remain outside the European Union. He views Ukraine as a crucial buffer against NATO, and if Ukraine were to join the alliance, any future attack by Russia would trigger a NATO response. Additionally, EU membership would significantly strengthen Ukraine’s economy, further distancing it from Russian influence. Ukraine also controls key seaports, making its alignment with the West a strategic loss for Putin.
 
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It looks a lot like the " Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" is no longer operative.
This may end up looking like Trump's negotiation in Afghanistan, where one of the sides will be cut out of the bargaining.
It would fit with his "let's carve things up by spheres of influence" view where the US will concentrate on ruling the Western hemisphere.
This will seriously piss of the EU and NATO.
Nobody can trust trump as an ally.
 
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I wonder how much money Putin has slid the orange maggot?

For a crook like Putin, 10 billion is nothing. And it buys him all he wants.
Before the orange maggot became president, he was struggling along to survive, doing idiotic reality shows while operating some small time business out of a dusty office right out of 1979 complete with fake wood paneling and orange and brown dusty carpet. When he becomes president, the money just starts to flow into his accounts. By all accounts, Putin is the wealthiest man in the world who earns a salary of just over a hundred grand a year. Putin found in the orange maggot a corrupt and bankrupt man who was in charge of the most powerful military in the world. And all it took was a few billion dollars funneled into a several numbered bank accounts around the world.

I heard last week that Trump is now by all accounts one of the top 500 wealthy individuals in the USA. How does a guy who was doing some idiotic reality show and selling frozen steaks go from this side of broke to top 500 wealthy people? Hmmm, I wonder. And it didn't take long for the orange maggot to fuck Ukraine over at the behest of his master.
 
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Putin's influence on Trump is nothing compared with that
of Netanyahu. Putin has a lot to learn from Trump's real master
to turn Trump into his poodle.
I do agree, Bibi is also now playing him like a fiddle after Trump's ridiculous Gaza Retreat development fantasy. Bibi, Putin and to a lesser degree Kim Jong will pull on his puppet strings and watch him dance for them.



Yet Franky and his Arab buddies didn't support Harris thus choosing to have Trump as number 47. Let Fantasy Gaza with Trumputin plaza commence!!!!!
 

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Putin will refuse to allow Ukraine to join NATO as a condition for ending the war. It would not be surprising if he also insisted that Ukraine remain outside the European Union. He views Ukraine as a crucial buffer against NATO, and if Ukraine were to join the alliance, any future attack by Russia would trigger a NATO response. Additionally, EU membership would significantly strengthen Ukraine’s economy, further distancing it from Russian influence. Ukraine also controls key seaports, making its alignment with the West a strategic loss for Putin.
This is why Russia winning was a foregone conclusion.

Ukraine/NATO/USA instigated a war that could not end any other way.

Biden gave Putin the keys to more land on a platter.
 
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A lot of bitching and moaning about Trump on this thread. Of course, hardly anyone is offering any realistic thoughts on what should happen.

The war is a grinding stalemate. The Ukraine is a mess and has suffered incredible losses of human life.
Biden or whoever was pulling the strings in the Administration should have ended this conflict awhile ago.
 
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