Donald Trumps Approval Ratings Soar

mitchell76

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For what?

Do you think ALL lawyers should be sued by people that they sue / prosecute?

Wouldn't that interfere with the justice system?
Molly Gaston worked directly for Jack Smith, who was an illegally appointed Special Counsel, in the first place, according to Judge Aileen Cannon!!

When the Dems were in power there was no justice system. The Dems just did constant lawfare against Trump. I hope Trump's nominees go after such losers as Jack Smith, Adam Schiff, Leticia James, Fani Willis etc etc
 
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WyattEarp

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If this is so, I am going to suggest it has little to do with Biden who was enforcing very diligently.
We know Obama was aggressive with deportations. Biden didn't really get diligent until the election year. To say deportations are political is an understatement. Both the news media, political parties and American people spin these discussions. I have crazy discussion in my circles. Personally I think many Americans merely want to argue against deportations because it's a policy identified with Trump.

Deportations don't just magically happen. They cost a lot of $$$$. ICE has to track down and catch over stayers. Ditto the Border Patrol. The illegals have to be housed and fed pending removal - (although I suspect many MAGAs would prefer that they simply be killed and used as fertilizer, especially the illegal children.)

Then they have to be flown back to wherever they come from. We're talking potential cost in the billions of $$$.
Would you really argue that enforcement is not a deterrent for illegal residency? Societies often spend a lot to enforce laws because the value is in deterrence.

And then, there's the limited downside to illegals. Most of them are law abiding. For every Salvadorean gangster in East LA, there are probably a couple of hundred scared, quietly working maids and laborers who live in dread of being involved with the cops. And it appears many businesses depend on them, perhaps entire communities in Texas and CA.
We don't know where the labor market would be without illegal residents until we diligently enforce the law. I think you will see low-skilled wages go up and possibly higher labor participation. My first hand account was I was paying much more for home services in 2019 than 2016. I didn't have a problem with that because it was the market. I started to do a few more things myself.

I would agree that many businesses depend on cheap labor. That's also a problem when they skirt minimum wage laws. I don't think the economy will fall apart. Pressure on labor availability can be dealt with as the market tightens too much.

In Canada, we simply give law-abiding, long term illegals permanent legal residence after a few years. It solves the problem perfectly. But then, we're not racist up here. And in fairness, we don't have the scale and extent of illegal resident issues that the US has because we don't have a land border with the Third World.
I'm glad you acknowledged that the U.S. has bigger challenge with its borders.

That help you?
Always.
 
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WyattEarp

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Last I heard, the Stable Genius said that the US was most prosperous back in the 1870's before it introduced income tax and when tariffs were very, very high.

But then he also shared with us that the US economy was about to become even better under his administration because he too was going to tariff everyone else massively. So there you go!
My comment was pointing out the hyperbole you hear from both sides. In this case, it is the same hyperbole.
 
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bver_hunter

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Trump claims budget-slashing is popular. These polls disagree.
Trump claims he has a "mandate" to slash budgets, but polls show Americans want more spending on education, health care, Social Security, infrastructure and anti-poverty efforts.

 

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We know Obama was aggressive with deportations. Biden didn't really get diligent until the election year. To say deportations are political is an understatement. Both the news media, political parties and American people spin these discussions. I have crazy discussion in my circles. Personally I think many Americans merely want to argue against deportations because it's a policy identified with Trump.
I think the problem may be the opposite. That the continual ranting and table-thumping about "the border crisis" by the GOP tends to alienate people who would otherwise quietly support a "secure borders" policy.

The British are even worse. Reform has taken to posting photos of mosques located in "nice British towns" with the caption "This is too much! It must stop!" That's a clearly racist message and a deliberate politicization of an issue that should be discussed calmly and dispassionately - like any and all other governance issues and choices.

Would you really argue that enforcement is not a deterrent for illegal residency? Societies often spend a lot to enforce laws because the value is in deterrence.
100%.
We don't know where the labor market would be without illegal residents until we diligently enforce the law. I think you will see low-skilled wages go up and possibly higher labor participation. My first hand account was I was paying much more for home services in 2019 than 2016. I didn't have a problem with that because it was the market. I started to do a few more things myself.

I would agree that many businesses depend on cheap labor. That's also a problem when they skirt minimum wage laws. I don't think the economy will fall apart. Pressure on labor availability can be dealt with as the market tightens too much.
Okay. But you at least need a transitional period. You can't go from A to Z in 1 jump.
I'm glad you acknowledged that the U.S. has bigger challenge with its borders.
100%!

I think immigration is a difficult and challenging issue and should be discussed. For instance, I think there's an arguable case for Congress to resile from the asylum treaty and stop offering asylum hearings.

My problem is that most MAGAts - including Republican congress members - don't know what the asylum treaty actually is. They just think villainizing brown people is a vote-getter and they get on the bus.

I think there should be open discussion of amnesty and legal residence for long term illegals. Or alternatives, like extended work permits, as you get in Canada and Germany.

But no one in Congress is smart enough to do this. They are all ranting stupidos.
 
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