Trump order could see Pro-Hamas protesters on H1B visas deported

richaceg

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Go ahead and see if you can find a single post where rich calls Palestine protesters anything but versions of 'Hamas supporters' or 'terrorism supporters.
I know how much you love backing up your claims.
You won't find any post of me saying Palestinians are terrorists...we've been on this road long before Oct 7, 2023 franky... I've always stated...Hamas is identified as a terrorist faction by world leaders around the world... like Hezbollah, like ISIS... You have no problem with Hamas killing Palestinians...you draw the line when Hamas conflict with Israel starts and Palestinians are killed in the process... as long as it's the Israel retaliation is killing palestinians...then it becomes a problem for you...
 

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You won't find any post of me saying Palestinians are terrorists...we've been on this road long before Oct 7, 2023 franky... I've always stated...Hamas is identified as a terrorist faction by world leaders around the world... like Hezbollah, like ISIS... You have no problem with Hamas killing Palestinians...you draw the line when Hamas conflict with Israel starts and Palestinians are killed in the process... as long as it's the Israel retaliation is killing palestinians...then it becomes a problem for you...
When you call Palestine protesters 'Hamas protesters' or 'terrorist supporters' you are also calling Palestinians terrorists.
Yes, Hamas are labelled as terrorists and now Israel is labelled as genocidal, apartheid and running an illegal occupation.

Does the law or human rights just not matter to you?
 

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What is the proper response from Israel that says that this is a declaration of war upon the very existence of Israel and its' citizens that we must nip in the bud and make sure that it is never repeated.

What is the proper response from Palestinians to a 76 year occupation, apartheid rule and illegal blockade?
How do you deal with racial supremacists who are lead by a wanted war criminal?
Answering a question with a question is not a reply. It's avoidance.
 

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What is the proper response from Israel that says that this is a declaration of war upon the very existence of Israel and its' citizens that we must nip in the bud and make sure that it is never repeated.


Answering a question with a question is not a reply. It's avoidance.
Your question is based on claiming that while Israel has no right to occupy Palestine you think they somehow have the right to defend the occupation of Palestine.
 

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Your question is based on claiming that while Israel has no right to occupy Palestine you think they somehow have the right to defend the occupation of Palestine.
You continue to deflect.

shack said:
What is the proper response from Israel that says that this is a declaration of war upon the very existence of Israel and its' citizens that we must nip in the bud and make sure that it is never repeated.
 

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You continue to deflect.

shack said:
What is the proper response from Israel that says that this is a declaration of war upon the very existence of Israel and its' citizens that we must nip in the bud and make sure that it is never repeated.
The proper response is to tell Israel to not wipe Palestine off the maps and obey all UN resolutions while taking their war criminal leader to the ICC.
You are like some old school bank robber with hostages declaring that if the bank doesn't give them even more they will kill the hostages and take the next bank too.

Stop declaring Israel has the right to break international law and commit war crimes.
 

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You are saying this with the assumption that every single person who protests in support of Palestine is an immigrant. Which sounds stereotypical to me. But I’ll make one thing clear as a 4th generation Canadian, the streets are going to continue being blocked until Canada adheres to international law and stops the support of an illegal occupation. Sorry, it’s the only way, not looking for an argument. Xoxo

Deport them from Canada too. I'm tired of these protesters blocking streets.


President Donald Trump signed an executive order during his first week back in office that gives the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the authority to deport foreign nationals, including students, who express support for groups designated as terrorist organizations by the U.S. government. The order, titled “Protecting the United States from Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats,” focuses on individuals who support, promote or assist in terrorist activities.

Foreign nationals supporting Hamas could be targeted
Under the new directive, DHS can actively remove individuals from the country, who meet the criteria of supporting terrorism unless doing so would compromise national security or ongoing investigations. The order’s provisions could raise concerns for some foreign students who participated in pro-Palestinian rallies held on college campuses in the wake of the Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel.

Some of these students have been accused of advocating for Hamas, a group designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S., with particular attention being drawn to the presence of Hamas symbols and flags at these rallies.

Controversy surrounding the executive action
Critics of the order, including civil rights groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), have voiced concerns about its potential to infringe on free speech. The organization issued a statement arguing that the executive order “threatens an unprecedented crackdown on free speech and legal immigration” by applying “vague, subjective, and unenforceable” criteria. The move has sparked debate over the balance between national security and individual rights.

Review of visa practices and stricter screening for high-risk countries
In addition to deportations, the executive order mandates a review of how the U.S. issues visas. A report outlining recommendations for stricter visa restrictions from specific countries deemed to pose security risks will be presented to the president within 60 days.

The order also strengthens the vetting process for foreign nationals, introducing enhanced screening for individuals seeking to enter or remain in the United States.

 
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So Hamas kills and rapes 1,200 innocent civilians on Oct.7 and takes 250 hostages.

What is the proper response from Israel that says that this is a declaration of war upon the very existence of Israel and its' citizens that we must nip in the bud and make sure that it is never repeated.

Does a 1 for 1 response send the message? How does Israel tell them to back off or else you'll be sorry if you try this again? What is the proper response that will bring about a reduced aggression?
Perhaps 10 to 1 is appropriate since the Jews are "the chosen people", but 40 to 1 is obscene overkill, not to mention the massive destruction of the homes and buildings. "Never Again" rings pretty hollow and hypocritical, I'd say.
 

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The genocide is continuing even with the ceasefire.
Israel is still destroying the West Bank and now plans to end aid into Gaza by blocking the UNRWA.
Well, maybe UNRWA shouldn't have gotten involved in the Oct.7 terror attack that HRW condemned as committing crimes against humanity.
 
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Perhaps 10 to 1 is appropriate since the Jews are "the chosen people", but 40 to 1 is obscene overkill, not to mention the massive destruction of the homes and buildings. "Never Again" rings pretty hollow and hypocritical, I'd say.
Sorry, I don’t follow the logic. Aside from the plainly antisemitic “chosen people” comment.

The response of civilization to the attack of savages is supposed to be sufficient to stop further attacks. It appears that Palestinians and Hamas are celebrating a victory and they are prepared and promise to repeat October 7 attack. So any logic suggest that it was not an overkill. It was very much an under kill because israel civilians are still in danger.
 
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When you are on a visa in a nation, IMHO you are a guest. The politics are for citizens. my 2c.
 

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Perhaps 10 to 1 is appropriate since the Jews are "the chosen people", but 40 to 1 is obscene overkill, not to mention the massive destruction of the homes and buildings. "Never Again" rings pretty hollow and hypocritical, I'd say.
your ratio is fucked up...you didn't put into account Iran and Hezobollah in there...Israel is basically short-handed...nice try.
 

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Well, maybe UNRWA shouldn't have gotten involved in the Oct.7 terror attack that HRW condemned as committing crimes against humanity.
HRW says Israel is committing genocide, the occupation is illegal and Israel apartheid.
Glad you brought them up.

Israel should be turfed from the UN for booting out the UNRWA.
Are you excited about the idea of starving Gaza again?

 

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