"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns
- Thread starter oil&gas
- Start date
That STILL does not justify not letting them back in and then passing ethnic specific legislation to seize their properties. If an army of arabs was headed your way, as if you would not flee. OMG what an effin basketcase.
What a wacko post.
I call to deescalate, renew the JCPOA and end sanctions.
You call that hate filled propaganda.
You've waited 20 years for Israel to get the US to attack Iran, are you gonna wait another 20 years?
Stupid AIPAC pushed Harris to lose to a felon and rapist.
All she had to do was stop sending the 2000 lb bombs Israel used on children in tents and call for a ceasefire.
Both were reprisals to Israeli attacks.Just from the past year
Direct
What we know about Iran's latest missile attack on Israel
Iran has launched a missile attack against Israel in retaliation for the killing of militant leaders allied to Tehran.www.bbc.com
Iran attacks Israel with over 300 drones, missiles: What you need to know
Iran has launched a massive aerial attack on Israel, two weeks after a deadly strike on its consulate in Syria.www.aljazeera.com
indirect
The first when Israel bombed an Iranian diplomatic centre, the second when Israel fired missiles into Iran.
Israel should stop attacking other countries if they don't want reprisals.
To be fair to Skoob (as much as he is trying to dance and spin), he pretty clearly means Obama was at war for every day of his presidency (all 8 years).
Being at war for every day of your presidency is something only two presidents have managed, Obama and Trump.
By being re-elected after losing the first time means now it is only Obama since Biden saved him by actually withdrawing from Afghanistan.
Yes, if you measure by "was there a war every year of their administration" then Bush qualifies too, but that clearly isn't what he is trying to pitch as a narrative here.
The essence of what you were saying that I responded to was post 101.
You decided to make some kind of silly " Trump was a pacifist, unlike Obama".
I responded with facts, and it seems to have really upset you since your argument was based on some kind of narrative you made up in your head about Trump and Obama.
Did you say "peddling lies"??????? WOW... your hero lies 99% of the time! Do you believe him when he says Canada is ripping the US off for 200 billion a year? How about the lie about the big faucet in California? Or the election in 2020? .... LOL... you are too much, or should I say not enough!
You never looked up any numbers did you?
It's funny that "Trump failed to get re-elected" is your defence now.
You seem to be trying to debunk an argument I never made.
You're the one who brought Obama into this with your silly comparison of who started more wars without bothering to look it up.
I believe you did.
Not really relevant to the war issue I was answering.
Of course, measuring deportation is a whole other complicated issue.
I'm not sure why a Trump supporter would be a fan of pitching "Obama was vastly more competent than Trump at handling illegal immigrants" as an argument, but you do you.
Again.
If you go by "every year of his presidency", then yes, GWB qualifies.
If you are trying to argue "every day of his presidency", then it is only Obama now that Trump was re-elected.
(He shared the honour with Obama, but Biden saved him by ending the Afghanistan war.)
You're making the mistake of assuming this is a good faith argument.
Skoob was taught a "gotcha" and is going to stick with it because he's been trained to think it must work.
It's a lot like Evangelical apologetics, where they get trained to counter specific arguments they think atheists have, regardless of whether or not those are arguments atheists rely on.
Since he thinks we worship Obama as a peacemaker, he can't understand why his "OMG, did you know he bombed people!" trump card is so laughably ineffective.
Exactly my point...compared to Obama, Trump is a pacifist.
You refuse to accept that nice-guy Obama was actually a war monger and deported more people than Trump.
The question is why do you refuse to accept that?
The answer is quite simple: Cognitive bias mixed in with TDS
The funny thing is that whenever someone accuses Trump of lying...the apparent "source of truth" are people who hate him regardless, and fact-checkers that are now unemployed due to political bias. Lol!
And the grown-ups in the room know that you shouldn't have an unhinged meltdown listening to what Trump says...you should pay attention to what he means. That's just his style! Unfortunately it triggers liberals to the point of hysterics. (which is kinds funny as well)
The essence of the conversation and my point is that the narrative that Trump is a war monger and generally bad person is hypocritical and I used Obama as the reference. Apparently you can't wrap your head around that. Perhaps too deep a concept?
The point about his deportation record was related to that as well. Again you can't wrap your head around that.
When you'll compare Obama's 8 year term to Trumps 2 non-consecutive terms you'll see that Obama's record still stands as America's deporter in chief and most wartime president. I know you know that.
If you disagree how about we make a bet?
President Trump was the first president since Carter that did not lead the US into new wars. An inconvenient truth for Trump haters I know.
You can argue with the New York Times about Obama if you want...let me know how that goes. and report back to us.
President Obama came into office seven years ago pledging to end the wars of his predecessor, George W. Bush. On May 6, with eight months left before he vacates the White House, Mr. Obama passed a somber, little-noticed milestone: He has now been at war longer than Mr. Bush, or any other American president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/...estled-with-protecting-nation-and-troops.html
Now how can such a nice-guy president be at war for so long and hold that record?
Answer: because Trump haters give him a pass on that and keep it quiet.
LOL.
I don't refuse to accept either of those things. (Well, I oppose casually throwing around "war monger" for lots of people the word gets used for, but that's not really important to the discussion.)
Obama did deport more people than Trump. (Again, it is worth looking at why Trump failed on something he was so keen on, given measuring that in raw numbers is the kind of bragging point he focuses on?)
Obama was a wartime president. ("In comparison, Trump is a pacifist" is just some really weird cognitive damage you seem to have.)
