ELLEGANT ENIGMA-completely unhinged.

[KittyCaterina]

Even for incalls I ask for deposits because I don’t trust theses men . They failed many times to prove their was real clients and ended up wasting my time . I mean I don’t dress up everyday and sit down to wait them to come over and say hi . Deposit helps me to have a clear life , get ready , plan the date . No deposit = No honey !

For prebooked incalls at home I have found that not accepting text apps or VOIP without prepayment has almost fully eradicated no shows.
Prebooking with at least 24hrs notice is helpful for me too.

At this point I don't feel the need for deposits while taking prebookings at home.
When or if it stops working, I will reevaluate.

Although... I am based in Kingston.
Ottawa is a different beast.

 

[eastottawahobbyist]

This is a good point.

Well-established and reputable providers who have years of great reviews, a website and social media presence, and an entire business to lose, are not going to risk it all to steal one deposit.

I personally only request deposits for outcall, those using text apps or as one of my screening options when I travel.
Incall at my residence here in Kingston requires no deposit unless you are using an app.


My reasoning:

Outcall - I learned my lesson years ago when someone pranked me and I was out $60 in taxi fees. The deposit is to ensure my travel is prepaid.

Text App - 98% of no shows are text apps. I used to automatically block all text apps. I recently decided to give app users the option of prepayment via etransfer or gift card to ensure they are a serious client.

Travel - When touring in other cities, there are costs incurred that I don't have at home for incalls. I request a deposit, established review board username or multiple references to try and ensure that my bookings are with legitimate gentlemen.

My website and ads are very clear regarding my policies and if someone doesn't like it they can move on, hopefully respectfully.
Maybe my post can give you guys some insight, maybe not.

Comments about taking the power back are red flags to me though...

In my conversations with a number of well established providers, I'm convinced that most fake bookings/prank outcalls are not clients but your competition trying to waste your time and money. For me if a SP wants me to use a real number I have no problem with that, but I do use a textapp for most communication to protect my privacy.

If I ask for an outcall I have no issues paying for a taxi or booking the uber myself(or even going and picking them up and dropping them off). What is an irritant is ladies that only offer outcall but still want to charge more for it, but don't offer an incall as an option. When its my choice I'm fine with paying more, when its there choice they should offer it at an incall rate with a transportation fee.

And like I said every single time I trusted a non established provider I get burned. I might do it for well known local ladies, but they actually rarely even ask, its the travelling ladies that are the largest group of offenders in my experience

 

[Hotgirl fever]

In my conversations with a number of well established providers, I'm convinced that most fake bookings/prank outcalls are not clients but your competition trying to waste your time and money. For me if a SP wants me to use a real number I have no problem with that, but I do use a textapp for most communication to protect my privacy.

If I ask for an outcall I have no issues paying for a taxi or booking the uber myself(or even going and picking them up and dropping them off). What is an irritant is ladies that only offer outcall but still want to charge more for it, but don't offer an incall as an option. When its my choice I'm fine with paying more, when its there choice they should offer it at an incall rate with a transportation fee.

And like I said every single time I trusted a non established provider I get burned. I might do it for well known local ladies, but they actually rarely even ask, its the travelling ladies that are the largest group of offenders in my experience

I have to agree to that.
I have implemented a system that allows me to live without worrying about fake clients and fake bookings . I learned a lot and still continue to learn .
what if they incorporate the outcall rates and transport fees all together ?
Even with the text app usage, the SP has the right to use it to protect her privacy but if you as a client want to book someone who doesn’t allow you use a text app then you are not compatible .
There are so many SPs who are traveling around the cities and the world to waste their time trying to offend you ! Like Katerina said some people have policies , you have the option to accept or decline. That’s life . Plain and simple .

 

[Hughlongly]

Darling it goes both ways . She has many suitors. An amazing client will respect her policy and be happy to have an incredible intimacy with her . This is SW . They are paying for advertising, selling their services and providing experiences and paying for other expenses. When you are talking about other businesses it is not the same . They are not opening their legs to feed themselves.
You think people who have businesses in the mall don’t have clients who waste their time ? They do have but they don’t get naked , so it doesn’t frustrate them . I was part of that, so I can understand both sides.

You know what, I've edited this response several times. It's gone from scathing to redacted to what it is now. Think what you want. I don't care. Comment what you want. I don't care.....unless you have a pair of big fake boobs on a skinny body, in which case we should talke.

 

[Hotgirl fever]

First of all, I'm not your Darling. Secondly, go pound salt. You're wrong. You know you're wrong, you've been shown several times you're in the wrong and you keep beating the same dead horse. This post was NOT about whether a deposit is a good or bad thing; it was about the behavior of someone who went off the deep end because they were refused. There were several things in the text that nudge me to believing that this person, is not real. That it IS a scam. And as far as your bit about "An amazing client will respect her policy and be happy to have an incredible intimacy with her" That implies that anyone who doesn't blindly go along is a shitty client. What exactly do you mean by that? Where did I not respect her policy? She never advertised she required a deposit. In fact, I ASKED her if she required a deposit, she said she did and I said VERY POLITELY, that I didn't do deposits and UNDERSTOOD it would mean I wouldn't be able to see her and then I THANKED her and said goodnight THEN she went mental. Are you saying that a client has to do whatever a provider says in ALL instances? Are you thinking these things through before you write them? You keep acting like she did nothing wrong here. SHE DID! And you know what, I find your dogged defense of her odd. You joined this site January 9th of this year. Weird how I JUST end the texting with this 'person' and you jump in to defend her, exactly like someone who had just been in text conversation with me trying to scam money out of me. You're a provider you say? Great. Lets see some of your ads? I don't see any listed on TERB. You've made 11 posts ALL about this thread. Weird. Where's your website? Show me your listing on Leolist or any of the others? Name a TERB user who you've seen.

Ok John . I heard you . There are so many different subjects on this thread . The one that captivated my attention was the deposit policy . The SPs policies etc .
Not her behavior . Like I said above , when I agreed with someone I clearly told him .
You do you. Don’t put your anger * into me . It is you and her situation.
I am not here to promote myself. I am trying to understand the 2 positions and the fact that someone said to take the power back etc …

 

[Hughlongly]

Ok John . I heard you . There are so many different subjects on this thread . The one that captivated my attention was the deposit policy . The SPs policies etc .
Not her behavior . Like I said above , when I agreed with someone I clearly told him .
You do you. Don’t put your hunger into me . It is you and her situation.

I thought I had edited that reply to remove all of that. But apparently it still posted. I thought better of it after posting it and tried to change it. I'm doing to you exactly what she did to me; going off the deep end. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Ok John . I heard you . There are so many different subjects on this thread . The one that captivated my attention was the deposit policy . The SPs policies etc .
Not her behavior . Like I said above , when I agreed with someone I clearly told him .
You do you. Don’t put your hunger into me . It is you and her situation.
I am not here to promote myself. I am trying to understand the 2 positions and the fact that someone said to take the power back etc …

Anger.....the word is anger not hunger. lol...*sigh*....I will give you a pass because I believe you're francophone and I'm writing in English, which may be difficult for you. I know that if I wrote in French I'd miss things too. Language can be hard. And also because I genuinely have a soft spot for francophones even though I'm not one. I had thought I had edited that post you quoted to remove all of the venom from it, but apparently it went up anyways. People on the internet fire from the hip and then they regret it. You simply posted an opinion, you didn't launch the Third Reich.

 

[Hotgirl fever]

I thought I had edited that reply to remove all of that. But apparently it still posted. I thought better of it after posting it and tried to change it. I'm doing to you exactly what she did to me; going off the deep end. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Anger.....the word is anger not hunger. lol...*sigh*....I will give you a pass because I believe you're francophone and I'm writing in English, which may be difficult for you. I know that if I wrote in French I'd miss things too. Language can be hard. And also because I genuinely have a soft spot for francophones even though I'm not one. I had thought I had edited that post you quoted to remove all of the venom from it, but apparently it went up anyways. People on the internet fire from the hip and then they regret it. You simply posted an opinion, you didn't launch the Third Reich.

I am correcting the wrong word from hungry to anger ! Good night !

 

[sp free]

Maybe moving forward, you and your friend should have sex with each others instead of wasting SPs who ask for deposits time ?

I will never send a deposit, ever. If you won’t see clients without a deposit, then you’ll never see me.

What’s the problem?

Homophobe.

 

[BeastKingGoLion]

I've said this quite a few times...

If that is your only reason for not wanting to send a deposit, almost every single online bank allows you to change your name and email address to anything you want for a specific etransfer.

If I need to send a transfer to a client due to a cancelation on my behalf, I can change my name to Kitty Caterina and use my work email.
Then I change it back to my original credentials right after. Very simple.

I am not pushing deposits for those who are anti-deposit and I think you should always do your research before sending one, I'm just giving information to the clients who are afraid of deposits due to them giving out their real name.

Well heck not sure if anyone else was curious enough to actually try this, and not that I doubted Kitty, but I actually went and tried - and voila. No skin in the game to weigh in on merits of either argument but it does seem what we understand to be the most established on platforms such as Tryst require a deposit. The flip side seems this requirement is everyone with or without established reviews, website, or presence.

I am curious if there are other reasons on principle or if a platform like Throne would increase comfort. Admittedly haven’t used it but I’m curious. Can use a credit card and send deposit gift anonymously.