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Hamas will release 33 hostages

Conil

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Rubbish the only time he suspended weapons shipments is when he first ensured they had enough inventory to make it through the suspention that was just done to deceive voters and people like you. Clearly it was successful. So why did Trump post that clip then?
Sorry, you're ill informed. Go look up Biden holding weapons if Israel attacked Rafah.
Why did he post that? I don't know he posts all kinds of weird shit, wouldn't be the first time.
 

Klatuu

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Sorry, you're ill informed. Go look up Biden holding weapons if Israel attacked Rafah.
Why did he post that? I don't know he posts all kinds of weird shit, wouldn't be the first time.
Very poorly educated
 

Butler1000

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Sorry, you're ill informed. Go look up Biden holding weapons if Israel attacked Rafah.
Why did he post that? I don't know he posts all kinds of weird shit, wouldn't be the first time.
I understand what you trying to say but realistically Biden wasn't holding them Back. He has spent his entire political career in unwavering support of Israel dating back to the 70's.

What I believe is the catalyst for this is Trump's unpredictability. Israel doesn't know what he will do, and the transfers from him AND CONGRESS are no longer a guarantee. Part of Trump's mandate is to stop the wars. And the MAGA mob has a head of steam now. Trump will sway to the mob lest they turn.

Hamas however also realizes that Trump could just as easily let things get worse for them.

Trump doesn't actually care about the lives. He just wants the win to look good. I will add that events in Syria have changed the calculations. Hamas is losing allies. And the ability to wage war.
 
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Conil

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I understand what you trying to say but realistically Biden wasn't holding them Back. He has spent his entire political career in unwavering support of Israel dating back to the 70's.

What I believe is the catalyst for this is Trump's unpredictability. Israel doesn't know what he will do, and the transfers from him AND CONGRESS are no longer a guarantee. Part of Trump's mandate is to stop the wars. And the MAGA mob has a head of steam now. Trump will sway to the mob lest they turn.

Hamas however also realizes that Trump could just as easily let things get worse for them.

Trump doesn't actually care about the lives. He just wants the win to look good. I will add that events in Syria have changed the calculations. Hamas is losing allies. And the ability to wage war.
Yes Biden was a big Israel supporter no doubt about that, he wasn't about to support Islamic terrorist. But he got pushed by many progressives and he had to back off for a while. Trump doesn't give a shit, but he's against any threat against the US, I remember when the Iranians tested him when he first became president and ran some speedboats against US ships in the Gulf, he immediately told them to open fire if they came close, the speedboats stopped immediately. He also moved ships closer to north Korea when they were fucking around and that stopped. Hamas understands that he's unpredictable.
 
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basketcase

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What a surprise. Most everyone here is glad that a ceasefire is coming and the few living hostages are being released but F and K are now looking for other excuses to demonize Israel.
 
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Frankfooter

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One of the biggest bullshit you posted. Trumps pressure on Hamas was what helped the accord, a few days ago Hamas agreed because they knew that Trump would give the go ahead for Israel to finish the job., they couldn't because Biden was holding them back.
Except that this is for the same terms that Hamas offered 8 months ago.
They haven't changed under trump pressure, just Netanyahu has.

trump wants it to happen when takes office to make Biden look even worse.

 

Frankfooter

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What a surprise. Most everyone here is glad that a ceasefire is coming and the few living hostages are being released but F and K are now looking for other excuses to demonize Israel.
Are you suggesting ending the genocide means nobody needs to talk about it again?
Hilarious.

Israel and zionists will be in courts for decades.

 
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nottyboi

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You had no problem when these Freedom fighters of ham ass kidnapped babies and burned them alive. Holding a baby hostage over a year is not resistance. This is the baby they're still holding. Disgusting


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You are such a moron. 1 they are also holding the mother 2. Israel is holding score of pali kids on Epstein island 2.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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The lefties think Trump pressured Bibi, and the nighties think Trump pressured Hamas.

Maybe he pressured both. Either way, it was Trump.
 
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