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As an avid follower of Canadian Politics, I found this to be a fair minded, scholarly and excellent read from the National Post. Some common discussion points on this forum were greatly expounded upon. Hope you enjoy. Thoughts?

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'A failure': Here's how eight prominent analysts assess Trudeau's time in power — National Post

'If the arc of the moral universe is long but bends toward justice, the arc of his oratory became tiresome and bent toward Justin'
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Links to apple news won't work for all, you could source the original at the National Post.
Speaking of which, for an NP story its not too biased.

Its also worth remembering that this age of partisanship is not just a Canadian thing, its a splintering of the MSM along with social media. The MSM in Canada has been attacking Trudeau pretty hard core for the last couple of years while giving Poilievre a much easier ride.
 
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The media has villified him to an extreme, to be fair.

Trudeau never antagonized others or spewed vitriolic hate to divide Canadians, or threatened other nations, like Trump. He introduced $10 a day daycare, dental benefits for seniors and those with low incomes. He legalized weed. He followed the advice of scientists to try to contain covid, and implemented financial benefits such as CERB for the entirety of the pandemic, and loans to help businesses stay afloat. He updated Canadian daily and guided us through the pandemic, when the whole country was living in fear. Trump, meanwhile, was responsible for many deaths after ignoring scientist's advice, causing double the death rate from COVID compared to Canada. He supported Ukraine during the invasion.

Trudeau was at times very popular, but in today's environment where there is such divisivness due to the media and social media being able to manipulate opinions, this is the result.

In this clip you can see how he responds to a very rude man who treats him with disrespect. He has always treated even the most dispresectful people with respect.




In summary, as a liberal, I do think it's time to move on from Trudeau. However, I do think he wasn't this horrendous PM that everyone portrays him to be. The fact that he served 10 years says that the majority of Canadians supported him. All politicians are pretty much the same, and I'm not sure having any other PM in charge would have made our country that much better.
 
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stinkynuts said:
The media has villified him to an extreme, to be fair.
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I guess his plan to shower the media with boatloads of taxpayers money did not work

Justin Trudeau is a narcistic , corrupt moron who was never qualified for the job and never understood the responsibilities of his office
And he has left behind a god awful mess
Even when he (sort of) resigned he did damage to our country
He should have called an election months ago and now we are in a precarious position having to wait while his liberal party tries to sort out their dysfunction.
What an irresponsible self obsessed idiot.

His legacy will be as the worst prime minister in Canadian history.
 
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DesRicardo said:
Disagree. He's been protected by the media since forever.

When Trudeau brought in the Capital Gains Tax, that's when the media slowly started to sour on him.

It should have happened way earlier. Should have happened 10x as hard.
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inflation is when the public started souring on him
he was never qualified for the position in the first place and never understood the responsibilities of his office
 
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inflation is when the public started souring on him
he was never qualified for the position in the first place and never understood the responsibilities of his office
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That, and the natural cycle of parties. After ten years in power it was inevitable that this would happen. No party stays in power forever. People get frustrated with the lack of progress and blame the party in power. The opposing party blames them and makes promises for change, the media piles on, and soon the people follow suit.

The cycle will repeat over and over.

People are fed up with housing and inflation, but these problems are worldwide, not unique to Canada. I don’t think Trudeau is to blame entirely. Canada’s inflation rate is better than many other countries. Housing is crazy worldwide nowadays, look at the US, Australia, Hong Kong, England, etc…

Under Trudeau, the federal minimum wage steadily went up to $17. Meanwhile the federal minimum wage in the US under Biden and Obama hasn’t changed, it’s only $US7, unchanged for the last 16 years!
 
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stinkynuts said:
That, and the natural cycle of parties. After ten years in power it was inevitable that this would happen. No party stays in power forever. People get frustrated with the lack of progress and blame the party in power. The opposing party blames them and makes promises for change, the media piles on, and soon the people follow suit.

The cycle will repeat over and over.
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You're right, Justin was doing a great job leading our country. It's just the circle of life. :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO:
 
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stinkynuts said:
That, and the natural cycle of parties. After ten years in power it was inevitable that this would happen. No party stays in power forever. People get frustrated with the lack of progress and blame the party in power. The opposing party blames them and makes promises for change, the media piles on, and soon the people follow suit.

The cycle will repeat over and over.
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This. No party can expect to stay in power more than 8-10 years. The Liberals have one major advantage over the CPC in this regard and that's that they can typically maintain a minority government much longer than the Tories can because they can forge an alliance with the NDP. The only party the CPC can turn to for help in a minority situation is the Bloc, and that won't last long.
 
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Trudeau's legacy? He started ok in his first 2 years....the rest went downhill from there...most voters were still high (literally i might say) on the 2nd election plus the Cons didn't have a great candidate. When he doulbed down on his gas lighting and virtue signalling is when most people were turned off...he became intolerable...the scandals WE, Arrivescam, freezing bank accounts of protesters... dodging every questions no matter how simple it is... Also Jagmeet covering his ass didn't help...people were pissed that they obviously were in cahoots...

If we really sum it up on what he will be remembered?
Freezing bank accounts and the most attractive PM of Canada (no homo)
 
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JeanGary Diablo said:
This. No party can expect to stay in power more than 8-10 years. The Liberals have one major advantage over the CPC in this regard and that's that they can typically maintain a minority government much longer than the Tories can because they can forge an alliance with the NDP. The only party the CPC can turn to for help in a minority situation is the Bloc, and that won't last long.
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A party can stay in power more than 8 to 10 years if they are true to being "for Canada" and not for their party....tough hill to battle but the reason parties don't last that long is at the end of the day...they always tow the line for their party and not for the country.
 
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DesRicardo said:
Disagree. He's been protected by the media since forever.

When Trudeau brought in the Capital Gains Tax, that's when the media slowly started to sour on him.

It should have happened way earlier. Should have happened 10x as hard.
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Disagree.

Please count the number of articles about whether Trudeau would be kicked out by his party against the number of articles about PeePee, foreign political interference and his refusal to get security clearance.
 
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richaceg said:
A party can stay in power more than 8 to 10 years if they are true to being "for Canada" and not for their party....tough hill to battle but the reason parties don't last that long is at the end of the day...they always tow the line for their party and not for the country.
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Agreed. A party can only take things so far, and then the battle becomes one of survival to keep their jobs and nothing more.
 
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Disagree.

Please count the number of articles about whether Trudeau would be kicked out by his party against the number of articles about PeePee, foreign political interference and his refusal to get security clearance.
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there is no obligation for peepee to get security clearance. Trudeau shit the bed with the foreign political interference...it was under his watch.
 
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