Muslim terror attack in New Orleans today

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Again I would say go through the terrorist incidents in the U.S. since 9/11 and you will see that the majority of deaths are caused by radical Islamic perpetrators. That's a fact.
I dont have such a list.
And I dont believe anyone can produce such a list reliably like the involved security agencies can who handle these things.
So I will take their reports at face value as the truth.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Again I would say go through the terrorist incidents in the U.S. since 9/11 and you will see that the majority of deaths are caused by radical Islamic perpetrators. That's a fact
Especially when you look at it from a per capita perspective.
Muslims only make up 1.34% of the US population
 

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Nothing you provide overrides the conclusions of the DHS and the FBI that in the US, right wing, white supremacy domestic terrorism is the most dangerous.
In this matter, their word is gospel.
Why is it that lefties hold government agencies as the source of the almighty truth? Could it be that maybe your government isn't being honest or at the very least being biased about their findings. Or does that only apply when its a Trump administration? The fact of the matter is that you can do your own research if you have half a brain and you will see that from 2002-2023 there have been 202 deaths on U.S. soil due to official terrorist incidents. Broken down as follows:

99 at the hands of Islamic extremists
75 at the hands of 'right-wing' extremism (white supremacists/anti-Semites/anti-Abortion/Sovereign citizen movement)
9 at the hands of left-wing extremism (anti-police/anti-white racism)
19 due to non-political reasons

I put 'right-wing' in quotes because I think they are being a little too presumptive in labeling some of these incidents right wing extremism. Not all anti-Semites/anti-immigrant/white supremacists are right wingers.
 
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Or does that only apply when its a Trump administration?
With Trump, this is called into question because the entire MAGA movement is based on lies, racism etc.,
This is one of the dangers of the Trump administration where they place cronies and crooks in these agencies to push the MAGA agenda rather than do their job, which severely undermines these agencies and the way they function.
This was not the case with these agencies even under Republican rule previously.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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With Trump, this is called into question because the entire MAGA movement is based on lies, racism etc.,
This is one of the dangers of the Trump administration where they place cronies and crooks in these agencies to push the MAGA agenda rather than do their job, which severely undermines these agencies and the way they function.
This was not the case with these agencies even under Republican rule previously
Oh hi, Kautilya 👋
 
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Because they have the expertise and you don't.
Like WMD's in Iraq? You want a list of other falsehoods, false flags, lies by omission these agencies are responsible for?

Remember they also want FUNDS. They need threats to maintain and expand budgets. In some cases they even manufacture threats by enabling them in sting operations. And these are easy, low threat busts.

If they were this expert they would prevent more. They do their best. But cripes if the Trump shooter didn't show you they aren't as competent as everyone thinks, what will?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Like WMD's in Iraq? You want a list of other falsehoods, false flags, lies by omission these agencies are responsible for?
They lied about that to start a war for regime change.
Why would they lie about domestic terrorism?
Also to call it a lie you'd need to know more than the FBI or DHS, which I dont believe anyone else does.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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but you have been expressing your somewhat partisan views in almost all of your post
I am against the MAGA movement.
Many others are as well like squeezer, mandrill, jalimon.
You, Phil, Douglas are supporters of MAGA.
You have been expressing your partisan views on all your posts too.
 

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The report says attacks since 9/11. True, more right wing attacks since then. But 9/11 had 3k+ fatalities.
Thus, depending upon when one wishes to tally the dead...could explain the disagreement.

Also the Wikipedia lists worldwide attacks. Not just USA. The issue i thought was framed by usa.
The hiding of data is wrong. These numbers are confirmed by scientific methods which meams the reporting people have to show all their data, their means of collection, their decision rules for collection, and so forth.
This is what makes science better than punditry.
 
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I am against the MAGA movement.
Many others are as well like squeezer, mandrill, jalimon.
You, Phil, Douglas are supporters of MAGA.
You have been expressing your partisan views on all your posts too.
yet all of us are still here and Kautilya is not, he was banned
 

K Douglas

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The report says attacks since 9/11. True, more right wing attacks since then. But 9/11 had 3k+ fatalities.
Thus, depending upon when one wishes to tally the dead...could explain the disagreement.

Also the Wikipedia lists worldwide attacks. Not just USA. The issue i thought was framed by usa.
The hiding of data is wrong. These numbers are confirmed by scientific methods which meams the reporting people have to show all their data, their means of collection, their decision rules for collection, and so forth.
This is what makes science better than punditry.
# of fatalities should be the barometer, not the number of incidents. And given that Islamic extremism is a bigger threat than so called right wing extremism.
 
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