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As someone commented in the Globe, looks like the bank oligopoly is stronger than the telco oligopoly.
But the Taco oligopoly is best. Very tasty dividends. Sadly for some people too much and it becomes a... short term holding which is... shitty.
Everyone in the Canadian telco industry is hurting, for wired internet the government is mandating the large players sell access to their network at a fixed price to small ISPs. For cellular it is cut throat pricing, you can easily get 50GB/month @ ~$35 right now where as 2 years ago you would get 5GB/month for the same price, this is just due to market competition.
I think about 70% of Bell's revenue comes from wired internet with the rest coming from cellular. If the government removes the mandate to sell access or increases the fix price for the sale of access then overnight Bell's fortunes will change for the better. I might pickup some BCE before the federal election, a new administration will probably be better for the Telco industry and worse for the consumer.
I think about 70% of Bell's revenue comes from wired internet with the rest coming from cellular. If the government removes the mandate to sell access or increases the fix price for the sale of access then overnight Bell's fortunes will change for the better. I might pickup some BCE before the federal election, a new administration will probably be better for the Telco industry and worse for the consumer.
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when you say everyone in cdn telco is hurting? this means just 2 companies rogers n bell ... any other company really piggy backs off them. Now 10 years ago and even now our price for a cell plan is the highest in the world why because of having just 2 companies... if Verizon comes in these 2 companies could go belly up.. but its too late for them to set up shop now.. but who knows worse things can happen. to me the price came down because of apps .. no one uses long distance anymore so they were forced to lower prices ... my friends in europe gong back 10 years ago had 2 cell phones in their pockets for a lower price than mine. i have had a cell phone before 2000 and trust me i did shop.. we do seem to be the only country perhaps offering 4 g hence your remark at 35 dollars for a plan thru fido as an example.. i was a proud cdn and would not spend my money in a US store outlet or a company over a cdn company since no US citizen would also not give business to a cdn company over a US company.. but the way we run things here .. its obvious we dont know how to run a business... i have family who have tried rogers and bell internet in the gta where they are always out at least once every month and a half they are sol cause there is no competition and god forbid if u have to call the 1800 number and be reminded by rogers all our support is in canada, what they forget to mention is yes they are in canada with a work permit. Not to confirm that yes a good chunk of revenue does come from business hard wired T1/fiber optics line and support ; cause all the top companies have to have both lines God forbid what happened when we lost rogers internet across canada cause some company was doing work.. but thats a whole different subject
Roger's, Bell, and Telus are the big players that have their own infrastructure. there is also Videotron that mostly services Quebec, they are small but they have their own infrastructure.
The $35 dollar plan for 50gb includes 5g. That is just an OK plan that anyone can get, I have seen $30 plans for 100gb but you have to jump through hoops to get it.
Overall, wired internet profitability is being choked by the government and wireless profitability is being choked by competition. Bell, Roger's, and Telus are all hurting bad.
where did u see this 35 $ plan? was it from the major players? like rogers fido bell? telus? or are u referring to kudoo? or however u spell it..
internet profitability is being choked by the govt? how ? or is it that other countries have seen what it costs here and are laughing at us? and for the price of phone plans too?? i just hope that rogers and bell looses more money and then forces someone from the US to step in its about time that these clowns learn a good lesson....
I know we all like to hate our telcos here but the reality is that we are a huge country and these telcos had to take on billions of dollars of debt to build out the infrastructure. Unlike the government which can print money, these guys have to earn it to pay it back. Read BCE's quarterly reports and you will acquire knowledge.
Exactly. We're the population size of California but the density of Montana. It's tough for the Telcos to spread their costs over, what, 1/3 to 1/4 of the subscriber base? This was even AFTER Huawei practically gave their shit away years ago as part of the BelUS contract.
Verizon was seriously thinking about it a few years back. Is was either the poor margins or the lack of government support that scared them away.
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For $35 you can get 75GB/month with 1000 LD minutes with 5g. Public Mobile is a sub brand of Telus.
The government has mandated that large Telcos sell access to their equipment at a fixed price, this allows small ISPs to offer cheaper internet plans using the infrastructure built by the big Telcos.
