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Freeland resigns

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Vulnerable? No. In fact she acted just like the PM would. Which is the point. He pucked her because she went along with him. She enacted his desires for policy. Only now those policies are just another coffin nail.

Cripes "likely"?!?!? What the hell do you think can save him?
No one can save Trudeau.
He is an idiot and stubborn.
Freeland is cunning and opportunist. Don't feel sorry or support her.
 

Butler1000

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People actually asking PP some hard questions, Liberals and NDP agreeing to run strategically and not oppose each other, or a meteorite striking PP. lol She went along with it, so when it did not pan out she she should have offered to resign. Its the job of the minister to defend the PM and take the bullet. He offered her a face saving way out. She spat in his face. THE END.
Lol. Press has done everything they can. He just stands there eating apples and making them look stupid and out of touch. They keep asking him the wrong questions.

He has control over the Conservative Caucus. He has control over messaging. And he now sitting back and watching the implosion.

A PM that doesn't have control over his caucus the way Trudeau has lost control is a bad leader who is done. That is the reality of Canadian politics.
 

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PP will make his rich friends richer, exactly like Trump. and cut everything possible for common people. PP is a lifetime politician. He knows the game. Nothing good will come out of him.
How much did the 'common' man prosper under Trump before Covid19 hit in March 2020? Here's your answer
Real median incomes United States (by year/median real income/ % increase/% cumulative increase)
2017 $39,110 1.0% increase 1.00%
2018 $40,430 3.4% increase 4.40%
2019 $42,350 4.75% increase 9.15%
That's an average of 3.05% per year. The best 3 year run of the 21st century. Until China and the U.N. unleashed Covid19 on the world.

Conversely, under Obama's 8 years real incomes only rose a total of 6.7% (0.84% per year). 7.24% of that came in 2015 and 2016 meaning that people had lower median income at the beginning of 2015 than they did at the beginning of 2009. 6 long years of misery.
 
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How much did the 'common' man prosper under Trump before Covid19 hit in March 2020? Here's your answer
Real median incomes United States (by year/median real income/ % increase/% cumulative increase)
2017 $39,110 1.0% increase 1.00%
2018 $40,430 3.4% increase 4.40%
2019 $42,350 4.75% increase 9.15%
That's an average of 3.05% per year. The best 3 year run of the 21st century. Until China and the U.N. unleashed Covid19 on the world.

Conversely, under Obama's 8 years real incomes only rose a total of 6.7% (0.84% per year). 7.24% of that came in 2015 and 2016 meaning that people had lower median income at the beginning of 2015 than they did at the beginning of 2009. 6 long years of misery.
That is not a lot. Covid brought the largest transfer of money to the very rich and billionaire in history. While the poor and middle class suffered. It's time to work to help the population. What the fuck do you do with 50k of income. You can't even rent a one bedroom with that...

I have been saying it for years. We need to fight inequalities or else our society will turn even shittier then right now.
 
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nottyboi

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Lol. Press has done everything they can. He just stands there eating apples and making them look stupid and out of touch. They keep asking him the wrong questions.

He has control over the Conservative Caucus. He has control over messaging. And he now sitting back and watching the implosion.

A PM that doesn't have control over his caucus the way Trudeau has lost control is a bad leader who is done. That is the reality of Canadian politics.
Funny one of the big criticism is he has TOO Much control
 

nottyboi

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He fired her over Zoom. And didn't have to guts to show up to parliament. He is now at the gutless coward stage.
Why show up in Parliament, all you gonna do is give your enemies ammo and yet another chance to attack you. Harper prorogued parliament to avoid a non-confidence vote and he is your idol.
 

nottyboi

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Sure, but you never complained about it, only now that she's no longer loyal to Trudno you're fuming.
Nonsense I always disliked her and am on the record of not wanting her to succeed Trudeau. Shes a condescending cunt there is no 2 ways about it. She is the Canadian Hillary.
 
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For years you didn't have a problem with her, now you bring up a picture from over 2 years ago at a rally for Ucraine with John Tory claiming she's a Nazi because her Grandfather was a nazi. Its hypocritical of you to do that just because you're bitter that she broke up with Trudno. She stated we condemn all far right and extremist views at the time. Its too late for that. But you're sure full of hatred for her.
It's not because he's supporting Justin it's because she isn't a Putin fan and she's hated in the Kremlin. Its part of the reason Trump's not a fan because he's been given his Putin notes.


"She studied Russian history and literature at Harvard University.[17] During 1988–89, she was an exchange student at the Taras Shevchenko State University of Kyiv in Ukraine, where she studied Ukrainian, which she is fluent in.[19] While there, she worked with journalist Bill Keller of The New York Times to document the Bykivnia graves, an unmarked mass grave site where the NKVD (the Soviet secret police) disposed of tens of thousands of dissidents.[1] The official Soviet story held that the graves were the result of Nazi atrocities. She translated the stories of locals who had witnessed covered trucks and "puddles of blood in the road" that predated the Nazi invasion, adding evidence that the site was actually the result of Stalinist repression.[1]

While there she attracted the attention of the KGB, which tagged her with the code name "Frida", and Soviet newspapers, who attacked her as a foreigner meddling in their internal affairs over her contacts with Ukrainian activists. The KGB surveilled Freeland and tapped her phone calls, and documented the young Canadian activist delivering money, video and audio recording equipment, and a personal computer to contacts in Ukraine. She used a diplomat at the Embassy of Canada in Moscow to send material abroad in a secret diplomatic pouch, worked with foreign journalists on stories about life in the Soviet Union, and organized marches and rallies to attract attention and support from Western countries. On her return from a trip to London in March 1989, Freeland was denied re-entry to the Soviet Union.[20] By the time her activism within Ukraine came to an end, Freeland had become the subject of a high-level case study from the KGB on how much damage a single determined individual could inflict on the Soviet Union; a 2021 Globe and Mail article quoted the report by a former officer of the KGB, which had described Freeland as "a remarkable individual", "erudite, sociable, persistent, and inventive in achieving her goals".[20]"
 

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It's not because he's supporting Justin it's because she isn't a Putin fan and she's hated in the Kremlin. Its part of the reason Trump's not a fan because he's been given his Putin notes.


"She studied Russian history and literature at Harvard University.[17] During 1988–89, she was an exchange student at the Taras Shevchenko State University of Kyiv in Ukraine, where she studied Ukrainian, which she is fluent in.[19] While there, she worked with journalist Bill Keller of The New York Times to document the Bykivnia graves, an unmarked mass grave site where the NKVD (the Soviet secret police) disposed of tens of thousands of dissidents.[1] The official Soviet story held that the graves were the result of Nazi atrocities. She translated the stories of locals who had witnessed covered trucks and "puddles of blood in the road" that predated the Nazi invasion, adding evidence that the site was actually the result of Stalinist repression.[1]

While there she attracted the attention of the KGB, which tagged her with the code name "Frida", and Soviet newspapers, who attacked her as a foreigner meddling in their internal affairs over her contacts with Ukrainian activists. The KGB surveilled Freeland and tapped her phone calls, and documented the young Canadian activist delivering money, video and audio recording equipment, and a personal computer to contacts in Ukraine. She used a diplomat at the Embassy of Canada in Moscow to send material abroad in a secret diplomatic pouch, worked with foreign journalists on stories about life in the Soviet Union, and organized marches and rallies to attract attention and support from Western countries. On her return from a trip to London in March 1989, Freeland was denied re-entry to the Soviet Union.[20] By the time her activism within Ukraine came to an end, Freeland had become the subject of a high-level case study from the KGB on how much damage a single determined individual could inflict on the Soviet Union; a 2021 Globe and Mail article quoted the report by a former officer of the KGB, which had described Freeland as "a remarkable individual", "erudite, sociable, persistent, and inventive in achieving her goals".[20]"
So what, Canada was formed out of genocide and how many kids did we torture, abuse and rape in residential schools? How many children is Israel murdering live on TIK TOK? How many poles did the Ukranians murder? 110K to 130k also Ukrainians particpated in Babi Yar and fought with the Nazis. I did not say she was stupid. She is a socio path, probably like her boss and like PP. Our poltical system causes this .Only sociopaths need apply. Yes you can see how her activism did not include holding Ukrainian nationalists accountable for their crimes. You can bet at the end of WWII the NKVD disposed of a great deal of the Ukrainian NAZIs that were unable to flee to Canada. Like the man who we have a standing ovation to in Parliament as a "Ukrainian Freedom Fighter" lol
 

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People actually asking PP some hard questions, Liberals and NDP agreeing to run strategically and not oppose each other, or a meteorite striking PP. lol She went along with it, so when it did not pan out she she should have offered to resign. Its the job of the minister to defend the PM and take the bullet. He offered her a face saving way out. She spat in his face. THE END.

you can let yourself out
 
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nottyboi

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No one can save Trudeau.
He is an idiot and stubborn.
Freeland is cunning and opportunist. Don't feel sorry or support her.
If Trudeau is able to negotiate a good deal with the USA and fortify border security then that would be a HUGE policy success. A big policy win that can change political fortunes. Freeland was being teed up for this intentionally as Trump hates her. That is an asset. Trump is actually a little afraid of her. Too bad she decided her persoanl ambition was more important then serving Canada at this critical juncture. Or Perhaps she wanted to do it as PM.
 
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If Trudeau is able to negotiate a good deal with the USA
?????
delusional

and fortify border security then that would be a HUGE policy success.
after his vacation ?

A big policy win that can change political fortunes.
?????
delusional


Freeland was being teed up for this intentionally as Trump hates her.
Who else in the Trudeau govt does Trump hate ?

btw i thought you were going to let yourself out
 

nottyboi

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?????
delusional


after his vacation ?


?????
delusional



Who else in the Trudeau govt does Trump hate ?

btw i thought you were going to let yourself out
Trump hates PP as well. If he is negotiating with him he hates him. Its his approach.
 
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