I saw 2 buses one said MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE SAID HAPPY HOLIDAYS

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The Early Christians were killjoys.

When Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Festival of Sol Invictus became Christmas. The pagan festival is still celebrated today, only in February and it's a rip roarin good time.

December is a miserable month, people needed to let loose. This is how the Romans celebrated Sol Invictus.

 
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Who said anything about calling Christmas trees - homiday trees?

This is about what is being written on a bus and if putting happy holidays on a bus is wrong. It is not.

Christmas trees are just that - Christmas trees. Anyone saying different, which I have never heard from anyone I know, is a small minority idiot. Minority as in amount not race.
 
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Who said anything about calling Christmas trees - homiday trees?

This is about what is being written on a bus and if putting happy holidays on a bus is wrong. It is not.

Christmas trees are just that - Christmas trees. Anyone saying different, which I have never heard from anyone I know, is a small minority idiot.
This is the first time I have heard Christmas trees being referred to as holiday trees lol.
 
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Mind you, some Jewish families, whose young kids are jealous of their Christian friends, do put up "Hannukah bushes" lol.

We never did...
Ya North America Hannukah is not Isreal Hannukah. Its only important because of cultural competition. Which is a good thing - more celebrations the better.
 

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Ya North America Hannukah is not Isreal Hannukah. Its only important because of cultural competition. Which is a good thing - more celebrations the better.
My best friend in the states married a nice Jewish guy she knew in high school way back. When I went on there Facebook they had a sign that said merryhanuka it was cute.they didn't convert each other he celebrates hank she celebrates christmas. There madly in love.
 

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This is the first time I have heard Christmas trees being referred to as holiday trees lol.
Interestingly you lol the idea of holiday tree the same way you laughed 5 years ago about men becoming pregnant.

Culture can change quickly and not in a good or rational way. We're living in that slippery slope right now.

Let's hope in the next 5 years you're not protesting that there is no need for Christmas trees and that to be inclusive they should be renamed holiday trees.
 

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Interestingly you lol the idea of holiday tree the same way you laughed 5 years ago about men becoming pregnant.

Culture can change quickly and not in a good or rational way. We're living in that slippery slope right now.

Let's hope in the next 5 years you're not protesting that there is no need for Christmas trees and that to be inclusive they should be renamed holiday trees.
How many men have become pregnant today?
Please provide a number.
 
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My best friend in the states married a nice Jewish guy she knew in high school way back. When I went on there Facebook they had a sign that said merryhanuka it was cute.they didn't convert each other he celebrates hank she celebrates christmas. There madly in love.
Going off on an even further tangent I've known a more than a few females who converted to Judaism because they married Jewish guys.

Some became even more orthodox and observant than their husbands, for better or for worse.

But most of them were not happy they converted as they felt pressured into it, and that they had given up a large part of their personal heritage...

Imho the best reason for conversion so both parents follow the same religion is so that the children have a foundation in one of the religions, learning and celebrating the customs of whatever religion that is. Later, when they become adults, of course, they may choose another religion to follow.

Another point of confusion is if a woman marries a Jewish man and does not convert, especially if he has an obviously Jewish last name. His sons will be assumed to be Jewish when introduced to people by their full names, when technically they are not, and may also practically choose to live as Christians. I have several male first cousins in that position. The same applies to a daughter in that circumstance unless she marries a Christian man and take his last name.
 

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First, most visible religious minorities don't show it. They dress and behave like you and I.

Second, your inclusive 'Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays' wouldn't apply to Jehovah's Witnesses because they don't celebrate the holiday, so there's no holiday to be happy about.

Third, when you see a Christmas Tree or hear a Christmas Carol, do you call them Holiday Trees and Holiday Carols? Are you opposed to Christmas Trees in public since that could be interpreted as rubbing Christianity in the faces of religious minorities? Are you opposed to cable TV showcasing Christmas themed movies and radio playing Christmas themed music?

Fourth, why not just say "Merry Christmas"? There's nothing complicated about this.
Last year just before Christmas I was walking my dog and a couple walking past smiled and said "Merry Christmas", he had the traditional Sikh beard with a turban dressed in Kurta pajamas while she wore Salvar Kamees. I returned the greeting.
You can't judge a book by its cover as the old saying says.
 

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Interestingly you lol the idea of holiday tree the same way you laughed 5 years ago about men becoming pregnant.
I'm still laughing at that one.
 

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Last year just before Christmas I was walking my dog and a couple walking past smiled and said "Merry Christmas", he had the traditional Sikh beard with a turban dressed in Kurta pajamas while she wore Salvar Kamees. I returned the greeting.
You can't judge a book by its cover as the old saying says.
Beware of the 8%

"Of the respondents who grew up in a culturally or religiously non-Christian household. . . eight per cent said they are offended by a Christmas greeting. "

That's almost 1 out of every 10 Canadians.

 
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I know I live in a predominately Christian country, and that as a Jew I am part of a minority.

At Christmas I say Merry Christmas to everybody I know who I think are Christians.

I say Happy Hanukah to Jews.

And to any visible minority, or if I am just unsure of their religion, I say Happy Holidays. As far as I'm concerned the days off most people get at Christmas and New Year's are universal holidays, if not "holy days" to them.

I usually get Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays back. I hardly ever hear Happy Hanukkah from a non-Jew, nor do I expect it.

I never correct anybody who says Merry Christmas to me, and if they do I reply with a smile and a "Merry Christmas!"
Ah, but then you offend atheists and agnostics.
 

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Ah, but then you offend atheists and agnostics.
that could possibly be almost half of the people under 50 years of age who are generally considered to be Christian or Jewish these days... ;)
 
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Happy holidays is simply a more useful term in some cases. My Muslim coworkers and Jewish friends aren’t waving their holidays in my face, why should I wave mine in theirs? To almost everybody else I say Merry Christmas and it’s fine.
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This.

in Canada, Christian culture is so publicly a part of our daily lives the structure of our week and half our statutory holidays are based on it. They have to live with our religion (or the remnants of it) and unless you live in a significantly Muslim/Jewish/Hindu community (or have friends that invite you to their celebrations) you see nothing of what they do. I suspect that most of the people complaining are simply upset that the world isn't like they imagine it was when they were a child, making them easy suckers for media manipulation.

My personal rule is if I know someone is Christian, I say Merry Christmas. Otherwise I say 'have a happy new year'. It costs nothing to be considerate of others.
 
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