Elton John Called The Legalization of Marijuana in America and Canada ‘One of the Greatest Mistakes of All Time'
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I think there are other factors at play than marijuana if you are being a controlling asshole in your relationships, just sayin.
Elton John was a heavy drug addict. Should we ban alcohol as well? Many recovery alcoholic would probably say so. Is it the right thing to do?
Absolutely not. It's up to us to ask for help if we cannot handle our own problem.
And I know I am one of them
Absolutely not. It's up to us to ask for help if we cannot handle our own problem.
And I know I am one of them
I remember the quote "the world is not responsible for accommodating your triggers" and that rings true to me.Elton John was a heavy drug addict. Should we ban alcohol as well? Many recovery alcoholic would probably say so. Is it the right thing to do?
Absolutely not. It's up to us to ask for help if we cannot handle our own problem.
And I know I am one of them
Hospital Visits For Cannabis Poisoning Tripled Among Seniors After Canada Legalization, Study Finds
Canada Legalizing Cannabis Linked To Tripled ER Visits In Seniors, Study Says
Researchers analyzed over 2,300 emergency room visits for cannabis poisoning among adults 65 and older in Ontario, finding the rate of visits increased significantly after Canada legalized the sale of dried cannabis flowers and edibles compared to a period before legalization.
The rate of emergency room visits for cannabis poisoning doubled over 14 months after Canada legalized the sale of dried flowers in 2018 and tripled over two years after the sale of edibles was legalized in 2020, according to the study.
Older adults are more at risk for cannabis poisoning because they’re likely taking other medications, as they’re more likely to suffer from drug interactions, the study says.
Researchers said Increases in accidental ingestion and ease of access to cannabis products are probable factors in an increase in emergency room visits.
Legalized pot is making America’s lower class poorer and less responsible
Pot for the poor! That could be the new slogan of marijuana legalization advocates.
In 1996, California became the first state to legalize the use of medical marijuana. There are now 25 states that permit the use of marijuana, including four as well as the District of Columbia that permit it for purely recreational use.
Colorado and Washington were the first to pass those laws in 2012. At least five states have measures on the ballot this fall that would legalize recreational use. And that number is only likely to rise with an all-time high (no pun intended) of 58 percent of Americans (according to a Gallup poll last year) favoring legalization.
The effects of these new laws have been immediate. One study, which collected data from 2011-12 and 2012-13, showed a 22 percent increase in monthly use in Colorado. The percentage of people there who used daily or almost daily also went up. So have marijuana-related driving fatalities. And so have incidents of children being hospitalized for accidentally ingesting edible marijuana products.
But legalization and our growing cultural acceptance of marijuana have disproportionately affected one group in particular: the lower class.
A recent study by Steven Davenport of RAND and Jonathan Caulkins of Carnegie Mellon notes that “despite the popular stereotype of marijuana users as well-off and well-educated . . . they lag behind national averages” on both income and schooling.
For instance, people who have a household income of less than $20,000 a year comprise 19 percent of the population but make up 28 percent of marijuana users. And even though those who earn more than $75,000 make up 33 percent of the population, 25 percent of them are marijuana users. Having more education also seems to make it less likely that you are a user. College graduates make up 27 percent of the population but only 19 percent of marijuana users.
The middle and upper classes have been the ones out there pushing for decriminalization and legalization measures, and they have also tried to demolish the cultural taboo against smoking pot. But they themselves have chosen not to partake very much. Which is not surprising. Middle-class men and women who have jobs and families know that this is not a habit they want to take up with any regularity because it will interfere with their ability to do their jobs and take care of their families.
But the poor, who already have a hard time holding down jobs and taking care of their families, are more frequently using a drug that makes it harder for them to focus, to remember things and to behave responsibly.
Legalized pot is making America’s lower class poorer and less responsible
Canada Legalizing Cannabis Linked To Tripled ER Visits In Seniors, Study Says
Researchers analyzed over 2,300 emergency room visits for cannabis poisoning among adults 65 and older in Ontario, finding the rate of visits increased significantly after Canada legalized the sale of dried cannabis flowers and edibles compared to a period before legalization.
The rate of emergency room visits for cannabis poisoning doubled over 14 months after Canada legalized the sale of dried flowers in 2018 and tripled over two years after the sale of edibles was legalized in 2020, according to the study.
Older adults are more at risk for cannabis poisoning because they’re likely taking other medications, as they’re more likely to suffer from drug interactions, the study says.
Researchers said Increases in accidental ingestion and ease of access to cannabis products are probable factors in an increase in emergency room visits.
Legalized pot is making America’s lower class poorer and less responsible
Pot for the poor! That could be the new slogan of marijuana legalization advocates.
In 1996, California became the first state to legalize the use of medical marijuana. There are now 25 states that permit the use of marijuana, including four as well as the District of Columbia that permit it for purely recreational use.
Colorado and Washington were the first to pass those laws in 2012. At least five states have measures on the ballot this fall that would legalize recreational use. And that number is only likely to rise with an all-time high (no pun intended) of 58 percent of Americans (according to a Gallup poll last year) favoring legalization.
The effects of these new laws have been immediate. One study, which collected data from 2011-12 and 2012-13, showed a 22 percent increase in monthly use in Colorado. The percentage of people there who used daily or almost daily also went up. So have marijuana-related driving fatalities. And so have incidents of children being hospitalized for accidentally ingesting edible marijuana products.
But legalization and our growing cultural acceptance of marijuana have disproportionately affected one group in particular: the lower class.
A recent study by Steven Davenport of RAND and Jonathan Caulkins of Carnegie Mellon notes that “despite the popular stereotype of marijuana users as well-off and well-educated . . . they lag behind national averages” on both income and schooling.
For instance, people who have a household income of less than $20,000 a year comprise 19 percent of the population but make up 28 percent of marijuana users. And even though those who earn more than $75,000 make up 33 percent of the population, 25 percent of them are marijuana users. Having more education also seems to make it less likely that you are a user. College graduates make up 27 percent of the population but only 19 percent of marijuana users.
The middle and upper classes have been the ones out there pushing for decriminalization and legalization measures, and they have also tried to demolish the cultural taboo against smoking pot. But they themselves have chosen not to partake very much. Which is not surprising. Middle-class men and women who have jobs and families know that this is not a habit they want to take up with any regularity because it will interfere with their ability to do their jobs and take care of their families.
But the poor, who already have a hard time holding down jobs and taking care of their families, are more frequently using a drug that makes it harder for them to focus, to remember things and to behave responsibly.
Legalized pot is making America’s lower class poorer and less responsible
Firstly, the criminalization of drugs has always been more about politics than about concern for public well-being. Alcohol and tobacco use have wreaked havoc on society far more than cannabis, LSD or mushrooms, but booze and cigs are perfectly legal.
And the argument that weed leads to harder drugs is completely flawed. Yeah, it's a "gateway drug", technically, but only because weed is and always has been readily available, so it's the first bit of contraband most people try.
By that rationale, water or breast milk are a "gateway drinks" that lead to alcoholism.
And the argument that weed leads to harder drugs is completely flawed. Yeah, it's a "gateway drug", technically, but only because weed is and always has been readily available, so it's the first bit of contraband most people try.
By that rationale, water or breast milk are a "gateway drinks" that lead to alcoholism.
You make good points esp about politics reigning over science.
They have done serious 3 phase trials before legalizing so I go with science as there was no politics driving its legalization.
Any other opinion is just that, an opinion not science
Rubbish.... alcohol is and always has been worse than pot . If you have an addictive personality and other mental issues, you're probably gonna partake in some harmful indulgences, but most can handle it with little problem. It doesn't necessarily lead to harder drugs, though there may be a brief experimental phase in some.
The fact that LCBO got special treatment during COVID says a lot. A lot more then cannabis. The government was more worried about alcoholics going through detox then cannabis users. There is a reason for that.
It is not secret I have a bit of a hate-on for alcohol. I have had so many issues with alcoholics in my life then those who smoke weed. I feel alcohol is more dangerous to society, to domestic violence, to health than any other addiction.
It is not secret I have a bit of a hate-on for alcohol. I have had so many issues with alcoholics in my life then those who smoke weed. I feel alcohol is more dangerous to society, to domestic violence, to health than any other addiction.
While I agree that alcohol is bad. Looking back on my life I can see it helped mess up my already unsuccessful trajectory. These days I am a Friday night drinker with a 2 or 3 beer limit. I enjoy it at home after a week's work. Weed made me completely wrecked. The depression and paranoia kind of kills any recreational aspect of it. I suspect that's what fucked up Syd Barret to begin with.
I smoke very little weed for years along with cold turkey quitting and taking long breaks here or there. If it's making you paranoid and effecting depression then people should try their best to stop doing it. Addiction no matter if it's weed, booze, junk food, etc. is generally on those who tend to lack self control or due to boredom and stress. I know people who can't even have 1 drink cause they will need more than just 1 and have quit eventually after dealing with it for years.
99% of the time in my life I've just smoked weed alone and can handle it than being around others who get all immature.
Personally I'm glad I typically average only 1 or 2 beers a month if that.
99% of the time in my life I've just smoked weed alone and can handle it than being around others who get all immature.
Personally I'm glad I typically average only 1 or 2 beers a month if that.
New evidence suggests stronger link between teen cannabis use and psychotic disorders
www.camh.ca
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis
ER visits in Ontario for cannabis-related psychosis rose 220% from 2014-21: study
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis | CBC Radio
New evidence suggests stronger link between teen cannabis use and psychotic disorders
Study first to show age-dependent link between self-reported cannabis use and subsequent psychotic disorder diagnosis
www.camh.ca
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis
ER visits in Ontario for cannabis-related psychosis rose 220% from 2014-21: study
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis | CBC Radio
Yes it is. They didn’t want hospitals overrun with alcoholics going through withdrawals.
I’d pull articles but really - I can’t be bothered.
This was notr a scientific studyNew evidence suggests stronger link between teen cannabis use and psychotic disorders
New evidence suggests stronger link between teen cannabis use and psychotic disorders
Study first to show age-dependent link between self-reported cannabis use and subsequent psychotic disorder diagnosis
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis
ER visits in Ontario for cannabis-related psychosis rose 220% from 2014-21: study
More than a bad trip: Experts warn about the risk of cannabis-induced psychosis | CBC Radio
The study clearly states that
The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship. This fallacy is also known by the Latin phrase cum hoc ergo propter hoc ('with this, therefore because of this'). This differs from the fallacy known as post hoc ergo propter hoc ("after this, therefore because of this"), in which an event following another is seen as a necessary consequence of the former event, and from conflation, the errant merging of two events, ideas, databases, etc., into one.
It is like stating some teen girls get pregnant after being taught sex ed so sex ed caused the pregnancy
I call it the Donald Trump model of thinking
I can confirm that in Quebec you are correct. The SAQ (our lcbo) remained open as a priority for alcoholic withdrawals but also to give a relief to population that was kind of depressed.
It was, i guess, the best solution because you cannot cut alcohol that drastically it would be a disaster. And I know I lived it.
Good thing is I am now nearly a full year totally sober
Congrats on your sobrietyI can confirm that in Quebec you are correct. The SAQ (our lcbo) remained open as a priority for alcoholic withdrawals but also to give a relief to population that was kind of depressed.
It was, i guess, the best solution because you cannot cut alcohol that drastically it would be a disaster. And I know I lived it.
Good thing is I am now nearly a full year totally sober
