Trump claims he will overturn the 14th Amendment

kherg007

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No you’re incorrect. In this case the data from this administration is manipulated to their benefit. New York, LA, Chicago are in shambles. Drugged out people in alleyways while South Americans with sombreros walk the streets aimlessly throughout the day. The nyc subway is not safe to drive at night. There would be nights twenty years ago I’d come home from the bar and take a sitting nap on the subway until I got to my stop in Manhattan. I’d probably get stabbed or robbed if i did that today.
Those are anecdotes. You've put forth a conspiracy theory about manipulated numbers. I lived in NYC and there a lot on biz along with SF and yes, there are shitty areas, so you're right on tha5. But no, walking midtown is not bad. If you watch Fox any bad event in these major cities is played ad infinitum. My SF friends say avoid the tenderloin and the rest of the city is fine. Same w Seattle etc. But the right wing media is as bad or even worse than others at spinning anecdotes into systematic facts.
I'll take systematic data collection over stories any day. But look - we agree any crime sucks and people who get wanton on it need to be taken off the streets, in very direct ways. And we agree it's time we put the needs of the average citizen above those who perpetrate.
 

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No, you’re incorrect. In this case the data from this administration is manipulated to their benefit. New York, LA, Chicago are in shambles. Drugged out people in alleyways while South Americans with ponchos walk the streets aimlessly throughout the day. It really is a bizarre sight.

The nyc subway is not safe to use at night. You can’t walk through any street above 72nd in Manhattan after dark without fear of getting robbed. There would be nights twenty years ago I’d come home from the bar and take a sitting nap on the subway until I got to my stop in Manhattan. I’d probably get stabbed or robbed if i did that today.
No.

Stats are that Manhattan was far more dangerous in the 90's, due to the crack epidemic. You simply have the facts wrong.
 
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No, you’re incorrect. In this case the data from this administration is manipulated to their benefit. New York, LA, Chicago are in shambles. Drugged out people in alleyways while South Americans with ponchos walk the streets aimlessly throughout the day. It really is a bizarre sight.

The nyc subway is not safe to use at night. You can’t walk through any street above 72nd in Manhattan after dark without fear of getting robbed. There would be nights twenty years ago I’d come home from the bar and take a sitting nap on the subway until I got to my stop in Manhattan. I’d probably get stabbed or robbed if i did that today.

Here you go, bud. An actual article which disproves your garbage.


According to a 2001 study of crime trends in New York City by Kelling and William Sousa, rates of both petty and serious crime fell significantly after the aforementioned policies were implemented. Furthermore, crime continued to decline for the following ten years. Such declines suggested that policies based on the Broken Windows Theory were effective.[24] Later, in 2016, Brian Jordan Jefferson used the precedent of Kelling and Sousa's study to conduct fieldwork in the 70th precinct of New York City, which it was corroborated that crime mitigation in the area were concerning "quality of life" issues, which included noise complaints and loitering.[25] The falling crime rates throughout New York City had built a mutual relationship between residents and law enforcement in vigilance of disorderly conduct.[citation needed]

However, other studies do not find a cause and effect relationship between the adoption of such policies and decreases in crime.[5][26] The decrease may have been part of a broader trend across the United States. The rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, made consecutive declines from their peak in 1990, under Giuliani's predecessor, David Dinkins. Other cities also experienced less crime, even though they had different police policies. Other factors, such as the 39% drop in New York City's unemployment rate between 1992 and 1999,[27] could also explain the decrease reported by Kelling and Sousa.[27]

A 2017 study found that when the New York Police Department (NYPD) stopped aggressively enforcing minor legal statutes in late 2014 and early 2015 that civilian complaints of three major crimes (burglary, felony assault, and grand larceny) decreased (slightly with large error bars) during and shortly after sharp reductions in proactive policing. There was no statistically significant effect on other major crimes such as murder, rape, robbery, or grand theft auto. These results are touted as challenging prevailing scholarship as well as conventional wisdom on authority and legal compliance by implying that aggressively enforcing minor legal statutes incites more severe criminal acts.[28]
 

mandrill

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This is just garbage. I am talking about post Covid Manhattan in the year 2024.

Unemployment had nothing to do with it. I was in Manhattan in 2008 during the crash and none of this happened. The worst you saw was occupy Wall Street, which I passed through their camp every single day without any issues.

What is happening now is migrant crime plus the justice system refusing to take crazy people like Jordan Neely off the streets. You can see the mental health problem in NYC especially with the lower class. Post covid they just developed a whole new set of mental issues.
Buddy, I rode the subway last week and there was a crazy guy evil-eyeing everybody and muttering. Same shit is everywhere and always has been.
 
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mandrill

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Hey righties!!!!

Here's a rightie editorial cartoon from the McKinley era when all you people hated Italians, not Latinos.

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No, you’re incorrect. In this case the data from this administration is manipulated to their benefit. New York, LA, Chicago are in shambles. Drugged out people in alleyways while South Americans with ponchos walk the streets aimlessly throughout the day. It really is a bizarre sight.

The nyc subway is not safe to use at night. You can’t walk through any street above 72nd in Manhattan after dark without fear of getting robbed. There would be nights twenty years ago I’d come home from the bar and take a sitting nap on the subway until I got to my stop in Manhattan. I’d probably get stabbed or robbed if i did that today.

To your point:


There are many reasons why New Yorkers voted for Trump in record numbers.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Hey, I've got a course at Trump University you can enroll in. You'll graduate in a month's time with a "Trump Diploma" and make a Million $$$$ as a business entrepreneur.

And how about some Trump vodka as well?!?!?!

And how about that Wall?!?!?!?... Stopped those illegal immigrants dead in their tracks.

Just like Trump will solve the War in Ukraine in a couple of days.
Trump cologne smells like pee
 

dirtydaveiii

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No, you’re incorrect. In this case the data from this administration is manipulated to their benefit. New York, LA, Chicago are in shambles. Drugged out people in alleyways while South Americans with ponchos walk the streets aimlessly throughout the day. It really is a bizarre sight.

The nyc subway is not safe to use at night. You can’t walk through any street above 72nd in Manhattan after dark without fear of getting robbed. There would be nights twenty years ago I’d come home from the bar and take a sitting nap on the subway until I got to my stop in Manhattan. I’d probably get stabbed or robbed if i did that today.
That's because your an asshole and nothing to do with crime penis Parker. In fact you would get punched out anywhere because of your idiotic views
 

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UCLA Student kicked out of class for voting for Donald Trump The class was having time to “mourn the loss of our country” after Donald Trump won, she said she voted for Trump. “I got kicked out of the class. I was told to leave that class and not return for the remainder of the quarter because I was quote unquote, a threat to my fellow students' safety.” “Because I voted for Donald Trump. I was a threat to their safety.”
 

dirtydaveiii

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This is just garbage. I am talking about post Covid Manhattan in the year 2024.

Unemployment had nothing to do with it. I was in Manhattan in 2008 during the crash and none of this happened. The worst you saw was occupy Wall Street, which I passed through their camp every single day without any issues.

What is happening now is migrant crime plus the justice system refusing to take crazy people like Jordan Neely off the streets. You can see the mental health problem in NYC especially with the lower class. Post covid they just developed a whole new set of mental issues.
Ya I watched home alone 2 new York and seen exactly what you are babbling about lol
 

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Breaking News.
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Fulton County Superior Court has issued a default judgment against District Attorney Fani Willis for refusing to turn over records that could document her collusion with the J6 committee and Special Counsel Jack Smith. The court order states: "By finding the Defendant in default, the Court has effectively declared that she violated the ORA [Open Records Act]. The Court further ORDERS the Defendant to conduct a thorough search of her records for responsive materials within five business days of this Order's entry." "Within the same five-day period, the Defendant is ORDERED to provide the Plaintiff with copies of all responsive records that are not legally exempt or excepted from disclosure. If the Defendant must or chooses to withhold any portion of a requested record, she is instructed to adhere to the procedures outlined in the ORA." However, the Fulton County D.A. claims that such records don't exist, potentially putting her at legal risk of perjury and obstruction of justice. The court makes it clear that it has substantive reason to believe Willis is withholding records: "Defendant is further ORDERED to provide an explanation why such correspondence does not exist in Defendant’s records (or why it is being withheld)." However, if Willis does turn over the records, it could provide proof of a criminal conspiracy. Oh, the irony.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Did I say 90’s? I didn’t.

Manhattan was very unsafe in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Time square had drugs on every block.

Guilliani cleaned it up and from around 2000 to 2020 it was the one of the safest big cities I’ve ever been to. Gentrification also played a large part in this.

What is happening now is just criminal migrants being let into the city, as well putting a muzzle on NYPD, which makes all the crazy people run free without repercussions. Mayor Adam’s saw this months ago but he was afraid to stand up to his party back then.

Was joking around with a friends dad the other day. He grew up in nyc in the 70s, 80s and he said that now he feels right back at home walking down the streets.
I call bullshit on that one - you don't have any friends
 
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Question for the Trump lovers of Terb: Are you happy with the cast of incompetent whackos he's appointed to his team so far? REALLY?
 
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silentkisser

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Funny...you can't form a few sentences without filling them with prophecy. Lol!

Why do you think it has swung to the right in just 4 years?

btw where's Biden?
Biden is running the United States. And Harris is acting as VP. Why, have you heard differently?
 
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But their parents came in from ports of entry legally.
Did they? Are you so sure? I mean, the US/Canadian border wasn't very secure in the 1880s. Nor was the southern border. And do you think they had immigration at all the different ports up and down the coast? And, to be frank, there was nearly no screening process back then. They didn't have social security numbers or things like that.
 
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