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mandrill

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Leimonis was responding to your projection that the rebels will turn on the West. Sometimes members follow the logic of their own posts like a pinball bouncing to and fro.

There is nothing to lament about the fall of Assad. In fact, one can say that it appears to be almost an organic development.
No one's lamenting the fall of Assad - except Notty and maybe some of the pro Hamas dudes.

That said, many / most MENA Islamic polities are probably ungovernable, except with a large degree of brutal repression and 1 set of brutal repressors is probably going to be just as bad as the previous set.

I wait to be happily surprised if I am wrong saying this about Syria.
 
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mandrill

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I'm more worried about childhood obesity especially amongst the poor.
I'm sure your GOP buddies will solve that issue when they cut social assistance and bring back childhood malnutrition in the next 4 years.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Because at some point he may be the leader. And talking is much better.

From what I read he didn't take towns by force but cut deals with locals. And they joined him. So while these things are always in flux, the West doesn't get to decide.
They all start that way.
People hate Assad more than they love this guy.
For now.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I'm more worried about childhood obesity especially amongst the poor.
I am sure you are worried about childhood obesity because that is a convenient distraction from the real problem - the lack of access to and affordability of healthcare in the US.
 
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I am sure you are worried about childhood obesity because that is a convenient distraction from the real problem - lack of access to and affordability of healthcare in the US.
How exactly does that all work? I ask because to truly understand this topic you can't get it from a five minute read in a media piece.
 

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I'm sure your GOP buddies will solve that issue when they cut social assistance and bring back childhood malnutrition in the next 4 years.
That's the thing malnutrition is convenient sloganeering from the progressive left. In reality, U.S. food assistance programs are generous and very accessible to the poor and working poor.

The debate is over what is responsible for the childhood obesity epidemic. Some will argue people don't have enough assistance to buy healthy food. Others will blame people for simply making bad food choices. Then there is the political reality that the U.S. subsidizes and promotes grain and sugar production and this factors in downstream highly-processed foods.

No, so I don't agree that American children are suffering from malnutrition due to a lack of assistance. It's lazy rhetoric. Currently, the U.S. SNAP program (nutrition assistance) measures at almost a $1000 a month for a family of four. This doesn't include school meals or direct food distribution through nonprofit food pantries and the like.

Jamie Dimon the Chairman and CEO of JP Morgan Chase (and no raging Republican for sure) basically said we need more nutritional education in schools. We seemed to have had a lot of home economics in my school many years ago. However, many of us also had grandmothers who raised and fed their children during the Depression and WW2 passing down their knowledge.
 

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Some will argue people don't have enough assistance to buy healthy food. Others will blame people for simply making bad food choices. Then there is the political reality that the U.S. subsidizes and promotes grain and sugar production and this factors in downstream highly-processed foods.
The food culture in the US (and much of the west) in general, encourages, high sodium, high sugar, high saturated fat, highly processed and canned foods consumption.
 

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That's the thing malnutrition is convenient sloganeering from the progressive left. In reality, U.S. food assistance programs are generous and very accessible to the poor and working poor.

The debate is over what is responsible for the childhood obesity epidemic. Some will argue people don't have enough assistance to buy healthy food. Others will blame people for simply making bad food choices. Then there is the political reality that the U.S. subsidizes and promotes grain and sugar production and this factors in downstream highly-processed foods.

No, so I don't agree that American children are suffering from malnutrition due to a lack of assistance. It's lazy rhetoric. Currently, the U.S. SNAP program (nutrition assistance) measures at almost a $1000 a month for a family of four. This doesn't include school meals or direct food distribution through nonprofit food pantries and the like.

Jamie Dimon the Chairman and CEO of JP Morgan Chase (and no raging Republican for sure) basically said we need more nutritional education in schools. We seemed to have had a lot of home economics in my school many years ago. However, many of us also had grandmothers who raised and fed their children during the Depression and WW2 passing down their knowledge.
Food deserts, fruitose/corn syrup, chemicals etc in ALL YOUR FOOD. Your frozen food sections are massive compared to other places. Same with all other prepackaged. Your food is cheap, but good food is not.

Whenever I travel to the USA and eat there my digestive track gets fucked up. And I get places with kitchens so I can cook at home. Even then it still gets mucked up.

MAHA actually fascinates me. The so called right wingers are the ones now promoting going after the food problems.
 

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I laughed at that photo as well. But I think you can draw a difference between fast food and grocery store food. If they actually go after and even start banning some of the chemicals banned elsewhere it will be a good thing.

Manufacturers will need to to adjust so you can't just ban it all in one shot. But between that, and real promotion of healthy eating you could start changing habits
 

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I laughed at that photo as well. But I think you can draw a difference between fast food and grocery store food. If they actually go after and even start banning some of the chemicals banned elsewhere it will be a good thing.

Manufacturers will need to to adjust so you can't just ban it all in one shot. But between that, and real promotion of healthy eating you could start changing habits
Ban certain preservatives and high fructose corn syrup, and that would be a great start.
Doubt they will though.
Too much of money in it.
 
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If RFK gets through that appears to be his primary focus. And you don't need Congressional approval to ban things.
Between RFK and Dr. Oz Big Food could be in for a real awakening....There's going to a hell of a push back however.
 
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