United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Manhattan
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Sociopathic and dystopian in one fell swoop.
If he did deny a lot claims which resulted in patients dying, I find it hard to feel sorry for him
Hollow points are meant to expand on impact, the pressure collapses the empty area of the "hollow point" creating the notorious "mushroom" shape.
This will greatly increase the wound cavity compared to a "full metal jacket", but it does reduce penetration. On soft tissues and internal organs it can be pretty devastating.
From what I know the .22LR Devastator rounds are hollow points loaded with a micro explosive charge that is meant to explode on impact, not sure if that is to increase the expansion of the hollow point or just create fragmentation.
They are still available on the market, but on such a small round it's somewhat of a gimmick.
Of the 6 rounds Hinkley fired, only the first one actually exploded. Not very reliable either.
He may have been about to throw someone under the bus regarding the insider trading hearings.
Hard to see from the security camera footage, but some have suggested that the weapon used could be a B&T Station SIX-9. That would be an interesting choice, it's a integrally suppressed pistol, magazine-fed, non-auto-ejecting single-shot. Or the B&T VP9 (veterinary pistol), basically the same thing just sold to the veterinary market to euthanize animals. Both have to be manually cycled, good feature in a situation like this if he didn't want to leave any casings at the scene, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Do you folks really think the Canadian health care system is superior enough to justify the horrible comments here and elsewhere on the web?
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Because what you are talking about is resource allocation.
And resource allocation is performed in every economic system, macro and micro.
In a socialized medicine system, everyone gets care. But at the cost of long waiting times and often a lack of access to the most new cutting edge treatments. If you are in a socialized medicine system, and you are in pain and feel that you are going to die before surgery, is it okay for you to shoot the Minister of Health? Hopefully not.
The U.S. discriminates in the delivery of its healthcare based on wealth (for most that is having insurance)), expected outcomes, and to a lesser extend age. The strong lobbying groups for the old keep that discrimination from occurring to the extent it probably should. The members of society producing the most, or have the possibility of producing a lot, or who have saved funds from having produced a lot for society get the best healthcare. The fundamentals behind that system has been around since the Spartans. It is my understanding that a not insignificant portion of wealthier Canadians go to the U.S. for treatments to avoid long waiting lists. The U.S. was once overly discriminatory in offering health insurance even to workers, which is why we got Obamacare, which I personally thought was a good piece of legislation.
Scarce resources get allocated in every system. The less that is paid to the providers of valuable resources, the less resources you get, making their allocation even less equitable. Those are fundamental principles common to every economic system. None of that is solved with firearms.
Social Media Has Little Sympathy for Murdered Health Insurance Exec
Americans on social media showed virtually no sympathy for the apparently targeted killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO by mystery gunman in New York.
www.rollingstone.com
Because what you are talking about is resource allocation.
And resource allocation is performed in every economic system, macro and micro.
In a socialized medicine system, everyone gets care. But at the cost of long waiting times and often a lack of access to the most new cutting edge treatments. If you are in a socialized medicine system, and you are in pain and feel that you are going to die before surgery, is it okay for you to shoot the Minister of Health? Hopefully not.
The U.S. discriminates in the delivery of its healthcare based on wealth (for most that is having insurance)), expected outcomes, and to a lesser extend age. The strong lobbying groups for the old keep that discrimination from occurring to the extent it probably should. The members of society producing the most, or have the possibility of producing a lot, or who have saved funds from having produced a lot for society get the best healthcare. The fundamentals behind that system has been around since the Spartans. It is my understanding that a not insignificant portion of wealthier Canadians go to the U.S. for treatments to avoid long waiting lists. The U.S. was once overly discriminatory in offering health insurance even to workers, which is why we got Obamacare, which I personally thought was a good piece of legislation.
Scarce resources get allocated in every system. The less that is paid to the providers of valuable resources, the less resources you get, making their allocation even less equitable. Those are fundamental principles common to every economic system. None of that is solved with firearms.
Do you folks really think the Canadian health care system is superior enough to justify the horrible comments here and elsewhere on the web?
Social Media Has Little Sympathy for Murdered Health Insurance Exec
Americans on social media showed virtually no sympathy for the apparently targeted killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO by mystery gunman in New York.
Because what you are talking about is resource allocation.
And resource allocation is performed in every economic system, macro and micro.
In a socialized medicine system, everyone gets care. But at the cost of long waiting times and often a lack of access to the most new cutting edge treatments. If you are in a socialized medicine system, and you are in pain and feel that you are going to die before surgery, is it okay for you to shoot the Minister of Health? Hopefully not.
The U.S. discriminates in the delivery of its healthcare based on wealth (for most that is having insurance)), expected outcomes, and to a lesser extend age. The strong lobbying groups for the old keep that discrimination from occurring to the extent it probably should. The members of society producing the most, or have the possibility of producing a lot, or who have saved funds from having produced a lot for society get the best healthcare. The fundamentals behind that system has been around since the Spartans. It is my understanding that a not insignificant portion of wealthier Canadians go to the U.S. for treatments to avoid long waiting lists. The U.S. was once overly discriminatory in offering health insurance even to workers, which is why we got Obamacare, which I personally thought was a good piece of legislation.
Scarce resources get allocated in every system. The less that is paid to the providers of valuable resources, the less resources you get, making their allocation even less equitable. Those are fundamental principles common to every economic system. None of that is solved with firearms.
Patron sorry to burst your bubble but the best healthcare system are socialized. Italy, France, Germany to name a few do far better than the US.
In Quebec we have eliminated the problem of rich Canadian going to the US for treatment as we now have private clinics. For basic family medicine to all kinds of surgery. My brother needed double hip replacement, public system all free but 1 year wait. Private 35k cdn done within a week.
Funny because our private care system began with plastic surgeon! Quebec government gave them green light about 30-35 years ago because they were tired to see the public system surgeon having to practice such surgery. Many of the biggest hollywood stars of the late 90’s early 2000 got the job done in Montreal, hidden from public scrutiny.
Healthcare should not be a privilege. That’s the current problem with the US. Not only that but healthcare should not be for profit. And lastly your insurers should not dictate your treatment!!
May i remind you the US is the only developed country in the world without socialized healthcare. I think the US fails miserably on that front. For christ sake Cuba has longer longevity and better birth rate ratio then the US.
To come back to the thread i am not surprised someone blew a fuse and killed this CEO. I an surprised it has never happened before actually.
Thanks. Glad it can be done for 35K, so no one goes beserk and shoots anyone during the year wait, which I suppose would be a year and a half if there want the option of paying.
Of course the better Canadian gun control reduces the shootings, also. And the more sane populace.
In general, the well-insured in the U.S. are pretty happy with their healthcare. They would likely have gotten the hip replacement in weeks or months with relatively little co-pay. Tgat having been said, the U.S. leaves a lot of people out. Fewer are left out after Obamacare, but it still happens. And it isn’t logically fair. Hell, for many years the best insured people were former blue-collar laborers in Michigan who worked in the auto industry. They quit smoking and lived long enough for their union-negotiated Cadillac health plans to give them great benefits.
The U.S. chooses to allocate its scarce resources by having winners and losers. Many continue working just for health care coverage, which is arguably good for the economy. Canada has fewer losers in its system, but I am not sure the winners reap as big of a bounty, if for no other reason that the money at the top in healthcare is huge and people in U.S. healthcare work a lot to get toward the top.
I heard that!Thanks.
If I ever want to assassinate another TERB member, I will definitely hire you for your skills!!
Why would the casings make a difference?
If I'm the killer, being on CC is a definite downer. But given time to flee, dispose of the weapon and the ammo and the clothing, I'm feeling pretty good.
What else would nail me?....
Browsing history?.... Erase that.
Buddies or co conspirators ratting me out?....
This guy was the scummiest of the lot. 32% denial rate? Using AI to fake second opinions with a 90 failure rate to deny seniors healthcare? A million stories out. Go to Reddit, tons of shitty outcomes.Do you folks really think the Canadian health care system is superior enough to justify the horrible comments here and elsewhere on the web?
Social Media Has Little Sympathy for Murdered Health Insurance Exec
Americans on social media showed virtually no sympathy for the apparently targeted killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO by mystery gunman in New York.
Because what you are talking about is resource allocation.
And resource allocation is performed in every economic system, macro and micro.
In a socialized medicine system, everyone gets care. But at the cost of long waiting times and often a lack of access to the most new cutting edge treatments. If you are in a socialized medicine system, and you are in pain and feel that you are going to die before surgery, is it okay for you to shoot the Minister of Health? Hopefully not.
The U.S. discriminates in the delivery of its healthcare based on wealth (for most that is having insurance)), expected outcomes, and to a lesser extend age. The strong lobbying groups for the old keep that discrimination from occurring to the extent it probably should. The members of society producing the most, or have the possibility of producing a lot, or who have saved funds from having produced a lot for society get the best healthcare. The fundamentals behind that system has been around since the Spartans. It is my understanding that a not insignificant portion of wealthier Canadians go to the U.S. for treatments to avoid long waiting lists. The U.S. was once overly discriminatory in offering health insurance even to workers, which is why we got Obamacare, which I personally thought was a good piece of legislation.
Scarce resources get allocated in every system. The less that is paid to the providers of valuable resources, the less resources you get, making their allocation even less equitable. Those are fundamental principles common to every economic system. None of that is solved with firearms.
When you deny healthcare and people die, for profit, this is the price to be paid. That's why no sympathy. If I was on the jury, I'd vote to aquitte. Everytime.
Exactly. It's fucked up that some people are celebrating his death, but just because one person has no humanity doesn't mean we all have to lose ours.
That said, he was a CEO of a healthcare insurance company. CEOs drive corporate goals. The Number 1 goal of a healthcare insurer is to make lots of money for himself and the shareholders. You do that by charging as much as possible for policies and making it difficult for policy holders to be successful in their claims.
With a 32% claim-denial rate, this guy's policies definitely have a hand in people's deaths and financial ruin. One article I read said he had a salary of close to $10-million/year. He didn't get that by approving claims.
I'm certainly not happy he's dead, but I'm also not saddened.
Is there actually full footage of the attack?Nice kill footage. Target is stalked, absorbs the first shot and staggers. Killer clears a jam (!!!!!!!) and tells a bystander to fuck off (!!!!!!) and then unloads the mag into the deceased.
All in front of street security camera.
What sort of incompetent fucker uses a piece that jams?!?!?!?
