this is wrong, we shouldn’t do this
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Yes.
If she wants to stick a dildo up your ass and you say that, do you really think she should keep trying?????
Common sense here bud.
thanks, for getting the essense of it. for a moment, it raised a self doubt in me that am I really that creepy and everyone else in this creepy forum is so well articulated gentlemen. keep the non consent scenario aside because then she won’t say we shouldn’t, she will first kick you balls.
otherwise, every relationship starts with such yes and no situation. some grows from there, some shuts down. don’t know if I need to explain it more.
I get that is what he is talking about, the answer is still stop.
Anything other then a yes is a no.
I dont disagree with what you are saying.
But a lot of consent is non verbal so cant judge just by words.
This is such an important sentence. Some girls i have met, especially around 17-19 years old were too shy to say no! So yes consent should also be read visually, positively or negatively.
just curious…do you have a girlfriend or any girl friend who is close enough to share that girl often wants the guy to take the lead and understand her hidden yes even when she says no?
I always took "no" as "no". If I had any suspicion that the young lady was playing the "no means yes" game for whatever reason, I would simply explain to her that to me "no means no".
However, true story:
Way back in the 1980's I had been seeing a young lady in an "off and on" relationship for a couple of years. We would fight a lot, which is not my style, but it was hers. Maybe she liked "make up sex" more than I did.
Anyways, one time after I broke up with her she said she wanted to come over to my place and "talk". I said ok, and she came over. Soon after she arrived she started to initiate sex. I was kind of into it but knew there would be ensuing complications, so I resisted by saying "no, we shouldn't do this", even while we were making out. She was rubbing my dick though my pants, and when we finally progressed to my running my hand under her skirt up to her vagina, she was dripping with vagina juices more than I had ever experienced with her, to the point of actually dripping down her thigh.
We had amazing sex, and I think at least part of it was my resistance...
However, true story:
Way back in the 1980's I had been seeing a young lady in an "off and on" relationship for a couple of years. We would fight a lot, which is not my style, but it was hers. Maybe she liked "make up sex" more than I did.
Anyways, one time after I broke up with her she said she wanted to come over to my place and "talk". I said ok, and she came over. Soon after she arrived she started to initiate sex. I was kind of into it but knew there would be ensuing complications, so I resisted by saying "no, we shouldn't do this", even while we were making out. She was rubbing my dick though my pants, and when we finally progressed to my running my hand under her skirt up to her vagina, she was dripping with vagina juices more than I had ever experienced with her, to the point of actually dripping down her thigh.
We had amazing sex, and I think at least part of it was my resistance...
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this is exxxactly what I was talking about. people who have never gone through this will never know and keep iterating the bookish knowledge of no means no. but reality is “No means Know”. and if you don’t know, then u r dumb. And those who know…knows exactly that whenever this tensed situation happens, the sex that follows after is awesome.
Why are you rehashing this same topic???
But i was strictly talking about 100% non verbal. If she says no its no whatever the circumstances.
Non verbal... When i was 20 i was with an 18 year old girl once. All is great between us until i was about to enter her. She then lost her smile and covered her eyes with one of her arm. That was a non verbal no. I stopped. She just said sorry...
And I repeated the same story that I told in that thread. But that was a year ago, and not an easy topic to search. Chill out...
Don’t worry. I’m chill. Lol. Just that it’s the same topic by the same poster, with the same responses. I can’t see what the point is. If he wanted to rekindle the discussion, just bump the old thread. I think OP is looking for attention/ to provoke a reaction, which he is getting. I smell a troll…
wow…i must say, you really good at search. i really forgot about it else whts the point starting new thread…or maybe you are right…getting attention of the members of this elite group is the sole ambition of my life
Fair enough. For some reason I remembered the last thread. Not so difficult to search out, since the same person posted it.wow…i must say, you really good at search. i really forgot about it else whts the point starting new thread…or maybe you are right…getting attention of the members of this elite group is the sole ambition of my life
While you think that the idea of someone posting just to get attention/ stir up controversy is silly, it happens all the time.
Anyway, apologies for doubting that your intentions were anything but innocent, and motivated only by poor memory.
It can still be trolling. He just ran out of material and recycled.
I concur that these types of threads bring out the worst in people.
When it comes to sex, there are a multitude of games that are played, outside of good-old-fashioned commercial sex.
People who have played the game, or some variant of it, always feel superior to those who don’t (including lifetime Johns). Most of them come to the game after women their age are no longer attractive to them.
Even within the commercial sex industry, guys who enjoy the Sugar Baby scene seem to enjoy the game of texting, weeding out fakes, and even paying for a series of meetings that sometimes doesn’t culminate in sex.
A long time ago, and I presume this is still the case, women enjoyed the game of dominating the relationship by setting the stage by gradually moving from first base, to second base, third base, and then home. Girls who put out too quickly were ridiculed as sluts and guys who fucked them and loved them realized it would harm their chances with the dominant majority of women if they spent too much time with sluts. The heroine in Porkys 1 and 2 explained it well.
A part of that game a long time ago was the point of no return. If a girl started giving hints that home plate was unguarded after the rounding of third, the Raging Bull was permitted to go home. Now that is in fact date rape, and has caused more than a few old coming of age movies from decades ago to have not aged well. But the teasing is silly and really not cool on the part of young women. A lot of them don’t really enjoy sex, so they create these difficult situations for no good reason.
Even within the context of marriage, there are two obvious games. The prison of monogamy, and the escape of affairs. I was guessing the latter was the type of conversation the original poster was referring to. It could also encompass kids indoctrinated in religious education committing the sin of non marital sex.
As with movies, drama and conflict are desired by many. And like it or not, the dominant majority of people live their lives with a lot of drama and conflict, especially when it comes to sex.
More than a few posters here never liked that stuff.
Here is to all the wonderful sex workers and many Johns who prefer the simple, honest and refreshing approach where an attractive lady comes out of the bathroom in her bra and panties, collects her specified payment of loonies or dollars, he takes off her bra and panties, and they fuck until the meter runs out.
There is a hell of a lot to say positively about that age-old transaction, even though the majority of the populace disapproves of it, and a not insignificant number of Johns always seem to feel the drama and conflict system is somehow better. People remember the good times about the past instead of the bad times. And the drama and conflict system produces a lot of bad times.
When it comes to sex, there are a multitude of games that are played, outside of good-old-fashioned commercial sex.
People who have played the game, or some variant of it, always feel superior to those who don’t (including lifetime Johns). Most of them come to the game after women their age are no longer attractive to them.
Even within the commercial sex industry, guys who enjoy the Sugar Baby scene seem to enjoy the game of texting, weeding out fakes, and even paying for a series of meetings that sometimes doesn’t culminate in sex.
A long time ago, and I presume this is still the case, women enjoyed the game of dominating the relationship by setting the stage by gradually moving from first base, to second base, third base, and then home. Girls who put out too quickly were ridiculed as sluts and guys who fucked them and loved them realized it would harm their chances with the dominant majority of women if they spent too much time with sluts. The heroine in Porkys 1 and 2 explained it well.
A part of that game a long time ago was the point of no return. If a girl started giving hints that home plate was unguarded after the rounding of third, the Raging Bull was permitted to go home. Now that is in fact date rape, and has caused more than a few old coming of age movies from decades ago to have not aged well. But the teasing is silly and really not cool on the part of young women. A lot of them don’t really enjoy sex, so they create these difficult situations for no good reason.
Even within the context of marriage, there are two obvious games. The prison of monogamy, and the escape of affairs. I was guessing the latter was the type of conversation the original poster was referring to. It could also encompass kids indoctrinated in religious education committing the sin of non marital sex.
As with movies, drama and conflict are desired by many. And like it or not, the dominant majority of people live their lives with a lot of drama and conflict, especially when it comes to sex.
More than a few posters here never liked that stuff.
Here is to all the wonderful sex workers and many Johns who prefer the simple, honest and refreshing approach where an attractive lady comes out of the bathroom in her bra and panties, collects her specified payment of loonies or dollars, he takes off her bra and panties, and they fuck until the meter runs out.
There is a hell of a lot to say positively about that age-old transaction, even though the majority of the populace disapproves of it, and a not insignificant number of Johns always seem to feel the drama and conflict system is somehow better. People remember the good times about the past instead of the bad times. And the drama and conflict system produces a lot of bad times.
