Trump Nominates ‘Distinguished’ Retired General To Bring End To War In Ukraine

[dirtydaveiii]

Instead of arms Donnie is going to send millions s of white flags

I'm surprised Trump hasn't brought in his longtime friend, Colonel Sanders!

Putin had Pregohzin as his chef. Colonel Sanders and his boys have made it finger lickin' good and served Trump for wayyyy longer!

Will putin treat Trump at the Golden boobies when he goes to Moscow?

 

[oil&gas]

Instead of arms Donnie is going to send millions s of white flags

Zelensky doesn't seem to mind.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

 

[SchlongConery]

Zelensky refused to play ball during Trump's last term.
Wonder how much that affects Trump's position on Ukraine.

Well for one thing, Trump knows that Zelenskyy has balls of steel and doesn't cave into being bullied or intimidated. Trump isn't used to that. No idea how Trump will dea with Zelenskyy but Trump does know how to feel people out and get a read and act accordingly. Zelenskyy is quite an orator and if Trump does dump Ukraine, Zelenskyy will have nothing to lose and will likely verbally slice and dice Trump and make him look like he, and by extension, the United States is cowardly, their word as a country is worthless and that Trump doesn't have the balls to stajnd up to the Putin or expose whatever Budanov and Ukrainian Intelligence knows on what Kompromat Putin and Russia have on Trump and is business'.

Just musing aloud but I would think that Trump won't want to risk being called out for caving into Russia and abandoning its allies. If Trump does something like lifting sanctions against Russia while enacting sancitions against Canada, that looks pretty bd for his judgement and character.

 

[SchlongConery]

This line has been tirelessly used for the last 3 years producing zero results.
But Putin's motives cannot just be reduced down to recreating the USSR.
It is one of many.
Also democracy is not a moral superiority thing.
Many of these so called democratic nations are themselves guilty of the same thing Putin is being accused of lol.
Practically providing 100s of billions of our tax payer dollars to Ukraine is untenable.
Money always runs out at some point.
Providing Ukraine the best in class of weapons that will help them decisively beat Russia is also not practical due to fear of escalation.
The only practical end to the war is a negotiated one.
But this decision needs to come from Ukraine.

Zero results?

What an idiotic statement.

Among other things, it has decimated Russia's military equipment, soldiers, leadership and economy. Ukraine has cleared the Black Sea of the vaunted Russian fleet. Both by turning their flagships into submarines and their submarines into scrap metal stuck in much needed dry docks... all ith jet skis! Thereby humiliating and weakening its future ability to be a risk to global stability.

As for zero military success. I'd say that holding off the heretofore FEARED second strongest army in the world by a ciuntry a tenth iof it's size for 3 years instead of three days and killing hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers, causing braiin drain of Russians of prime Russian citizens etc etc is far more than zero.

And there has not been HUNDREDS of BILLIONS poured in. And uch of the hardware sent was obsolete or otherwise already written off. The MRAPS for example were a multi-billion US Army boondiggle to counter IED's. Almos all of them are out of Army active service and costing hundreds of millions to maintain so the m=embarrasment of the boondiggle doesn't get out. FFS, a three man county sherrif in Bugtussle can get a fewjust for the asking.

But you have abviously been infected with latent Russian propaganda. Which is nothing to be ashamed of. The Russians are nooooo match for anyone who hasn't had direct experrience wtith them and their incredible propaganda army.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Among other things, it has decimated Russia's military equipment, soldiers, leadership and economy. Ukraine has cleared the Black Sea of the vaunted Russian fleet. Both by turning their flagships into submarines and their submarines into scrap metal stuck in much needed dry docks... all ith jet skis! Thereby humiliating and weakening its future ability to be a risk to global stability.

As for zero military success. I'd say that holding off the heretofore FEARED second strongest army in the world by a ciuntry a tenth iof it's size for 3 years instead of three days and killing hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers, causing braiin drain of Russians of prime Russian citizens etc etc is far more than zero.

By results I mean pushing Russia back from territory they control in Ukraine.
Per some news media I was listening to a few days ago, Ukraine has lost more land in 2024 than they did in 2023.
Not sure if this is true or false, but they have at the very least not gained any in the east.
Russia continues to hold that with their rusty tanks and NK soldiers and Iranian drones.
And for the foreseeable future this is unlikely to change in Ukraine's favour.
Especially with Trump at the helm.

 

[SchlongConery]

Sweden is a small country with 10M people.
They may have the know how.
But they are not the industrial power of EU to produce things at scale.
Germany, UK, France are and they dont come close to the US in terms of industrial capability.

Not yet. But neither does Russia anymore. And fine tuning Russiian sanctions on vital machiine tools, electronics, banking, currency etc keeps getting tighter and tighter every day.

Meanwhile Europe has fucking woken uop and taken notcie that al the prejudice that they had agaistf at, dumb loudmouth yanks was well founded and ... fuck them if they can't be counted on for their support. Europe can and is on the way to standing up for themselves since the US has shown themselves to be uncertain, if not unreliable allies.

That's why Poland, Lithuaniania, Latvia, Estonia, Fiinland, Sweden etc have all made defences against the Russian threat as their highest priority. As much as Russia has been exposed forn ot livingnup to ty\heir ferasome reputation, so is the United States uder that weak chickeshit milquetoast Biden.

Now we have Ukraine... furiously mad and determimed to win as they are fighting for their very survival. Both as a nation and as individuals. They are working deals and on euquipment that we can'timagine. Don't be surprised ifnUkraine becomes the toughest, most effective army in Europe.

 

[SchlongConery]

KFC was kind of tasty but turned into an acid refluxing anil in your stomach half an hour later

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I suspect those h]who voted for RTrump has going to feel the same way in a coupe years. They elected a fart to clear the room temporarily, butsoon will realize it is a greasy KFC shart in his depends after all.

 

[SchlongConery]

Instead of arms Donnie is going to send millions s of white flags

Well he better order them quick beofre the price from CHYYY-NAH does up by 25%!

 

[JohnLarue]

What's it worth to keep democracy alive and try to re-establish a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty. We see Putin now destroying Georgian democracy. Where do you think he will end his quest for empire?

re-establish a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty. ??
Exactly when was there a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty that you wish to re-establish?

If you understand anything about human history you would know it has been a long story about continuous conflict, conquest of land/ peoples and war
Name a 100 ,50, 25 year period in recorded history when there was a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty. and no rumbles going on anywhere ?

 

[JohnLarue]

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I suspect those h]who voted for RTrump has going to feel the same way in a coupe years. They elected a fart to clear the room temporarily, butsoon will realize it is a greasy KFC shart in his depends after all.

naw... that's just a spoonful of the disgusting KFC gravy in his shorts

 

[JohnLarue]

Now we have Ukraine... furiously mad and determimed to win as they are fighting for their very survival. Both as a nation and as individuals. They are working deals and on euquipment that we can'timagine. Don't be surprised ifnUkraine becomes the toughest, most effective army in Europe.

That could work out that way

the US funded Iraq when they rumbled with Iran in the 1980s ( an old British trick, pay someone else to fight for you)
that did not pan out so well over the long term

iraq wound up with 4th or 5th largest army in the world and caused a great deal of havoc.

Best to fund Ukraine with enough to keep the Rusike's from trying again, without giving Ukraine enough to invade Russia and threaten Putin's regime

 

[wigglee]

re-establish a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty. ??
Exactly when was there a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty that you wish to re-establish?

If you understand anything about human history you would know it has been a long story about continuous conflict, conquest of land/ peoples and war
Name a 100 ,50, 25 year period in recorded history when there was a world order based on peace and respect for sovereignty. and no rumbles going on anywhere ?

I guess you forgot about a time when Nato and the UN at least waxed poetic about co-operating and holding peace negotiations, and sending in peacekeepers...does anybody remember peacekeepers?

 

[oil&gas]

For NATO it is a better strategy to back Ukraine to
fight to the last man than sending in peacekeepers
to drive Russian invaders out of Ukraine. Trump is
going to fix that.

 

[JohnLarue]

I guess you forgot about a time when Nato and the UN at least waxed poetic about co-operating and holding peace negotiations, and sending in peacekeepers...does anybody remember peacekeepers?

oh so you want re-establish waxing poetic while conflicts, death and destruction persist then?
Virtue signalling on a global scale

you can wax away to your hearts content until reality slaps you awake again

I guess you missed the part about the UN drifting away from its peacekeeping objective to a biased, power hungry group of unelected officials
One only need look at the behaviour of the UNs corrupt IPCC to know they have gone off the rails
"Global Boiling" ?
Not a lot of trust in an organization that promotes blatant propaganda , intentional mis-information and deliberate lies.

the fact you can not name a 25, 10, or even 5,4,3..... year period where no conflict/ war was occurring should have been a clue for you that UN has failed its utopian "peacekeeper" mandate.

continue to ignore human nature and you will continue to be disappointed

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Well he better order them quick beofre the price from CHYYY-NAH does up by 25%!

Wonder if he will have exceptions for his sneakers and bibles

 

[Frankfooter]

I guess you forgot about a time when Nato and the UN at least waxed poetic about co-operating and holding peace negotiations, and sending in peacekeepers...does anybody remember peacekeepers?

Stupid, isn't it?
So many countries trying to jostle for a bit more land/power and all they get is more war and death.

After a couple of years Russia may end up with a bit more of Ukraine, Israel may try to colonize a bit of Gaza while everyone else moves chairs to different positions around the table. You've got the US trying to kill the UN and international law, NATO getting minimized because of US idiocy, the middle east realigning without the US, BRICS gaining more countries and China just doing business with all the pieces.

 

[wigglee]

Stupid, isn't it?
So many countries trying to jostle for a bit more land/power and all they get is more war and death.

After a couple of years Russia may end up with a bit more of Ukraine, Israel may try to colonize a bit of Gaza while everyone else moves chairs to different positions around the table. You've got the US trying to kill the UN and international law, NATO getting minimized because of US idiocy, the middle east realigning without the US, BRICS gaining more countries and China just doing business with all the pieces.

Nationalist strongmen are corrupting the attempt at a stable co-operative world order. It was never easy but now too many are tearing down the organizations designed to bring us together or at least keep us in line .... all this for their own selfish, nefarious purposes. It will not end well.