Opinion | As the Middle East ceasefire shows, it’s a fallacy that ideas can’t be defeated

[Frankfooter]

Hamas will not fall from the hands of Israel, it will be from the hands of Palestinians..whoever is left in Gaza that represents Hamas will get the Gaddafi treatment...

How come with the world's best weapons, about $1 million of US in weapons funding for every one of the 20,000 militants, a year of fighting against a militia with no heavy weapons who are all trapped in an area the size of the Isle of Montreal, Israel hasn't been able to defeat them yet?

Is the IOF the worst army in the world or do they have other goals, rich?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846274289793650827

 

[Leimonis]

I think we should be more positive about the Middle East. For example, in Syria now I wish luck to every fighting group and hope that they all gonna be achieving great success in exterminating their enemies.

 

[Vinson]

Hamas will not fall from the hands of Israel, it will be from the hands of Palestinians..whoever is left in Gaza that represents Hamas will get the Gaddafi treatment...

Be nice if they did, but so far Ham ass is still in charge,

 

[shack]

You do like to live in the past.

Like talking about events from 75 years ago and earlier? You need to accept the fact that Israel accepted the land that was granted them and the Arab leaders at that time rejected what was granted. Even if you feel it wasn't fair, you need to accept that that is what happened and move on. You can't change history.

By not letting go of the past you will not be able to build a future instead of having a nation of refugees.

Even if you feel it wasn't fair...

 

[shack]

How come with the world's best weapons, about $1 million of US in weapons funding for every one of the 20,000 militants, a year of fighting against a militia with no heavy weapons who are all trapped in an area the size of the Isle of Montreal, Israel hasn't been able to defeat them yet?

The end result is more important than how long it takes to achieve ones goals.

Let's see:
Hezbollah ran away and abandoned Hamas.
Hamas is isolated with no one at all supporting them.
Iran is afraid, weakened and ineffectual. Those 300 drones got swatted away like flies and the US is watching their every move. Israel killed Hezbollah leaders in the heart of Tehran with impunity.
The IDF has Hamas surrounded.
Out of their original 24 battalions only 4 remain.

Instead of asking why is it taking so long, the question is how much longer can Hamas possibly survive? How many more Gazans must die so that Hamas can continue to fight an unwinnable fight? How long until the people of Gaza overthrow Hamas? These are much better questions, Geno.

Or, if you want to stick with your original question, it's taken this long because Israel knows that the eyes of the world are upon them, so they've had to do everything in their power to minimize the Gazan deaths even though Hamas has left them exposed and used them as human shields. As NAD has pointed out, the fact that only about 25,000 civilians have died (according to Hamas controlled agencies) is a testament to how careful Israel has been.

 

[Frankfooter]

Like talking about events from 75 years ago and earlier? You need to accept the fact that Israel accepted the land that was granted them and the Arab leaders at that time rejected what was granted. Even if you feel it wasn't fair, you need to accept that that is what happened and move on. You can't change history.

By not letting go of the past you will not be able to build a future instead of having a nation of refugees.

Even if you feel it wasn't fair...

Why should Palestinians have accepted half of their country being handed to foreign colonialists when the brits had promised them all of Palestine in return for their fighting in WWII?

Balfour gave away what was not his to give.

Why do you think Israel gets to keep what the UN says is not theirs?

 

[Frankfooter]

Or, if you want to stick with your original question, it's taken this long because Israel knows that the eyes of the world are upon them, so they've had to do everything in their power to minimize the Gazan deaths even though Hamas has left them exposed and used them as human shields. As NAD has pointed out, the fact that only about 25,000 civilians have died (according to Hamas controlled agencies) is a testament to how careful Israel has been.

So the killing of all journalists and health care workers is part of a campaign to minimized the reporting of the genocide, in order to try to keep the public numbers lower.
No wonder you are so offended when multiple parties say that the real number could be as high as 300,000 civilians.

Israel's goal now isn't minimizing civilian casualties, its minimizing the reporting of the real numbers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856766305258672422

 

[shack]

Why should Palestinians have accepted half of their country being handed to foreign colonialists when the brits had promised them all of Palestine in return for their fighting in WWII?

Because their choice has fucked them up the ass for the last 76 years. They would have had land right now instead of being refugees. This is a historical fact.

They cut off their nose to spite their face. "If we can't have all of the land, then we don't want any of it. So there. We'll teach you." LOL to that.

Well, they still don't have any of that land, 76 years later. I don't know if that choice was more stupid or deciding to attack on Oct.7 was more stupid but they were both, REALLY FUCKING STUPID. Choices have consequences and one must learn to live with our choices.

That's why, Geno.

 

[Frankfooter]

Because their choice has fucked them up the ass for the last 76 years. They would have had land right now instead of being refugees. This is a historical fact.

They cut off their nose to spite their face. "If we can't have all of the land, then we don't want any of it. So there. We'll teach you." LOL to that.

Well, they still don't have any of that land, 76 years later. I don't know if that choice was more stupid or deciding to attack on Oct.7 was more stupid but they were both, REALLY FUCKING STUPID. Choices have consequences and one must learn to live with our choices.

That's why, Geno.

Netanyahu choosing to allow the attack on Oct 7, responding with the Hannibal Doctrine and genocide was really stupid, and as we now know, criminal.
Why do you think the world will allow a regime based on illegal occupation, apartheid and genocide to remain?

How long do you think Israel will last now that the world understands it to be genocidal?
You might get trump to defend Israel for a few more years if you're likely, but what happens after that?

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[shack]

So the killing of all journalists and health care workers is part of a campaign to minimized the reporting of the genocide, in order to try to keep the public numbers lower.

That Bizarro post is not worthy of a response.

No wonder you are so offended when multiple parties say that the real number could be as high as 300,000 civilians.

I get offended when you keep repeating lies that have debunked.

Israel's goal now isn't minimizing civilian casualties, its minimizing the reporting of the real numbers.

So are you claiming that Israel controls the number of deaths that Hamas and their Health Ministry report to the public? I just want to make sure because that would be a ridiculous claim.

 

[shack]

Balfour gave away what was not his to give.

But that cannot be changed. It happened and debating it now accomplishes nothing. Concentrate on making things better for the palis instead. And engaging Israel in war is not doing that.

 

[shack]

Netanyahu choosing to allow the attack on Oct 7, responding with the Hannibal Doctrine and genocide was really stupid, and as we now know, criminal.
Why do you think the world will allow a regime based on illegal occupation, apartheid and genocide to remain?

There would have been no attack if the Arab leaders had accepted the land granted them in 1948.

 

[Frankfooter]

That Bizarro post is not worthy of a response.

I get offended when you keep repeating lies that have debunked.

So are you claiming that Israel controls the number of deaths that Hamas and their Health Ministry report to the public? I just want to make sure because that would be a ridiculous claim.

Israel has destroyed most of the hospitals and killed a large number of medical workers, you think that has no effect on their ability to count the dead?
Same goals as killing journalists.

Israel doesn't want the real numbers public.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1860780166177267778

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[Frankfooter]

There would have been no attack if the Arab leaders had accepted the land granted them in 1948.

There would have been no attack if Balfour didn't decide to give half of the country away to foreign colonialists.

 

[NotADcotor]

By not letting go of the past you will not be able to build a future instead of having a nation of refugees.

Even the Japanese knew when to give up and they were all about fighting to the death [which partly explained [but doesn't forgive] why they treated POWs so triple brutally.

Hamas and pals have some sort of death cult going on.
Sometimes you gotta

Arabs in Israel have the right to vote and much like in Quebec they can even chose their own parties, full other rights, some of them even join the IDF. So they apparently have more rights as they get to avoid conscription.

The Palestinians could have the same thing. Live under a well run [compared to other arab nations] government in peace and prosperity, but no, they would rather get their own people killed as much as possible in an effort to exterminate the jews from river to sea even though it obviously will never happen.

We shit a lot on the Russians, but the ones in the Potato Union get it, as do the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians. They might not be thrilled with the situation, but the figured it out. Granted it helps that the Russian who live in the potato union are not part of some sort of death cult.

 

[NotADcotor]

So are you claiming that Israel controls the number of deaths that Hamas and their Health Ministry report to the public? I just want to make sure because that would be a ridiculous claim.

He accused me of Zionism for quoting Hamas with numbers the UN and other's accept.

Although in his world view, it checks out. I mean Hamas by Hans Frankfooters definition is committing genocide against their own people. Maybe he thinks Hamas is working for Israel.
Doing the stuff that Israel wouldn't be able to get away with either internationally or on the domestic front.

 

[NotADcotor]

There would have been no attack if Balfour didn't decide to give half of the country away to foreign colonialists.

Fine, then Hamas should be raping killing and hostage taking in London. I mean since you are a huge fan of terrorism why not target the people who actually blame.

And for that matter lets extend this to every historical issue.

 

[mandrill]

Nazism was an idea that was defeated...........

You follow my logic?

 

[shack]

Israel has destroyed most of the hospitals and killed a large number of medical workers, you think that has no effect on their ability to count the dead?

So you're admitting that the numbers you quoted are very flawed and have no legitimacy.

Israel has destroyed most of the hospitals and killed a large number of medical workers, you think that has no effect on their ability to count the dead? Same goals as killing journalists.

We all know that most of that is on hamas for numerous reasons.

Regardless, nobody is lifting a finger to stop Israel from waging their war with impunity. It's a joke when you say that the world is against Israel. All the world does is flap their gums..........just like you do. The truth is that the world doesn't give a shit about Gaza or the Palis.

Go ahead and whine all you want, declare genocide all you want, declare apartheid all you want, talk about ICC and ICJ all you want. Flapping your gums is useless. Israel, with the aid of Gazan civilians will finish hamas off. Gazans will be liberated and Israel will help them build new and better lives for themselves. I betch'a even the "evil, blood-thirsty, colonial" Zionists will help physically and financially.

How ironic that will be, eh Geno? Will you give them credit when that happens?

 

[shack]

There would have been no attack if Balfour didn't decide to give half of the country away to foreign colonialists.

And how does complaining about that now after so many years helping the current situation? Stop living in the past, it's destroying the people you claim to want to help. You certainly have your priorities mixed up.