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Butler1000

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I do blame them for not realizing the US would never hand a woman of color the Presidency. I would have preferred Shapiro or Newsome to run against Trump.
Funny how it's because, in your own words here, they have now not run a clean primary in three cycles. Maybe you need to take that next step about if they ever will at this point.
 
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Butler1000

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Did you watch the video? Does the video not show Joe's real positions before he decided to go with what brings him more clicks?
You do realize he still is the #1 guy right? Why would he suddenly be worried about clicks when he hasn't been in 15 years of this? The man basically CREATED the genre, and is now arguably, along with his peers, the new game changers in US politics.

MSN screwed themselves with a 24 hour myopic "news" cycle that is just a 5 minute talking head fest. He gets them on, along with others, for 3 HOURS that people listen to. It's real conversations.

Man is now the OG. It's the MSM that are trying to play catch up
 
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You do realize he still is the #1 guy right? Why would he suddenly be worried about clicks when he hasn't been in 15 years of this? The man basically CREATED the genre, and is now arguably, along with his peers, the new game changers in US politics.

MSN screwed themselves with a 24 hour myopic "news" cycle that is just a 5 minute talking head fest. He gets them on, along with others, for 3 HOURS that people listen to. It's real conversations.

Man is now the OG. It's the MSM that are trying to play catch up
Why has he completely changed his stance? It's a complete Jekyll and Hyde story. I've never said he doesn't have a successful podcast. He was never a Trump supporter and believed Trump was an idiot, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since sliced bread. I believe Covid messed up his mind and he hasn't yet recovered from it.
 
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richaceg

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Why has he completely changed his stance? It's a complete Jekyll and Hyde story. I've never said he doesn't have a successful podcast. He was never a Trump supporter and believed Trump was an idiot, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since sliced bread. I believe Covid messed up his mind and he hasn't yet recovered from it.
He invited Kamala and spooked her...that's enough for him to know what she's about...she spend 100G for the "call her daddy" podcast...which didn't help at all...LoL
 
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Butler1000

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Why has he completely changed his stance? It's a complete Jekyll and Hyde story. I've never said he doesn't have a successful podcast. He was never a Trump supporter and believed Trump was an idiot, all of a sudden, he's the best thing since sliced bread. I believe Covid messed up his mind and he hasn't yet recovered from it.
He has said the assassination attempt was a big moment for him, as well as all the vitriol and court cases that have amounted to nothing.

He has been very clear as well that the cover up of Biden's cognitive decline(He was one of the first to call it out) by the Democratic leadership caused him to take a side. Another thing he, like many others have found is that in the USA it has been the Dem/Kamala supporters who have been extremely, insulting, derogatory, and un welcoming, while the reverse is true of many Trump supporters. They have a more live and let live attitude.

One only needs to see the tic toc meltdowns, 4B movement proponents, MSM hand wringing, Podcaster rants, et al. to see a clear pattern in that.

In other words, the actions of the Democratic Party and it's fans caused it. As it did with enough voters to either cause them to switch votes, vote third party, vote down ballot only, or not vote at all.

Until you fully accept that the Democrats are completely responsible for the loss, not voters, not world events, not this one thing or that one thing, but the decisions of the Democratic Party, you will continue to be confused. They stopped listening to voters and listened to a class of pundits and so called experts that were wrong. They listened to pollsters who got it wrong. They tried to tell people what they concerns should he, instead of listening to what they really are. And dismissed those concerns with insulting language and shaming tactics, telling them they were bad people.

They have driven away enough of their working class base, to cause a genuine shift in voting patterns. That is what happened.
 

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I do blame them for not realizing the US would never hand a woman of color the Presidency. I would have preferred Shapiro or Newsome to run against Trump.
What makes you think the US wouldn't have a woman of colour for president? They had a man already.

The election had nothing to do with race nor gender.

Kamala is an unqualified dumbass which is why she didn't get elected.

Why are you incapable of understanding this?
 
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I do blame them for not realizing the US would never hand a woman of color the Presidency. I would have preferred Shapiro or Newsome to run against Trump.
She would have won if she didn't back the genocide and didn't side with the GOP and Cheney.
 

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He invited Kamala and spooked her...that's enough for him to know what she's about...she spend 100G for the "call her daddy" podcast...which didn't help at all...LoL
Why would she go to an anti-vaxer's podcast who believes the polio vaccine gives one polio? Even your cult leader raised an eyebrow at that comment during the Trump podcast.
 
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She would have won if she didn't back the genocide and didn't side with the GOP and Cheney.
Stop with this bullshit and nonsense. You can celebrate the Trump victory when he helps BIBI completely wipe out the Palestinians at the next protest.
 

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Stop with this bullshit and nonsense. You can celebrate the Trump victory when he helps BIBI completely wipe out the Palestinians at the next protest.
The win is now down to 1.6% difference.
You seriously think that losing the youth, Muslim and moderate dems over support of genocide couldn't have made the difference?

I've been posting about this all year, noting that abandon Biden and other groups were telling Harris what would happen if she didn't listen to the 80% of dems that wanted a ceasefire. You think I'm happy that she wouldn't end US support of the Israeli genocide and happy trump won?

This should be a moment for change.
 

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The win is now down to 1.6% difference.
You seriously think that losing the youth, Muslim and moderate dems over support of genocide couldn't have made the difference?

I've been posting about this all year, noting that abandon Biden and other groups were telling Harris what would happen if she didn't listen to the 80% of dems that wanted a ceasefire. You think I'm happy that she wouldn't end US support of the Israeli genocide and happy trump won?

This should be a moment for change.
Yes and the moment of change should be that any Arab/Muslim/Middle Eastern who didn't get off the couch and vote for Harris deserves everything that is coming to them via Trump. I will not pity them whatsoever. If BIBI steps it up, pat yourselves on the back!
 
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