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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Elon is a con?
Wow, can't think of a con who launches rockets, builds pioneering vehicles, satellite internet for the world, AI innovation, neurotechnology, and is the richest person in the world.

What part of his success do you consider fraudulent?
Yes he is a con.
Nothing pioneering about EVs. The first cars were all EVs dating back to the 1890s.
Tesla: Did not found it. Simply invested in it, pushed out the original engineers and founders and then calls himself chief engineer or whatever title.
Paypal: Did not found it. It started as Zip2, which changed name to x.com, merged with confinity founded by Peter Thiel, and then acquired by eBay and renamed to PayPal.
Calling himself engineer: He knows nothing about engineering. He does not even have an engineering degree. When he started Zip2, he apparently wrote code. But his code had to be scrapped in its entirety because it was so crappy.
Rockets: Except for landing boosters, nothing innovative there. Heck the reusable booster concept is nothing new either. NASA used to recover their boosters from the sea. NASA sent a man to the moon in 1969 with analog computers. Top that!
Neurotech:The first BCI research and tech goes back to the 70s. Nothing new there either.
He is a good marketer.
Thats about it.
Nothing he says is new or unheard of.
He just makes it sound profound.
His latest con - 1M people on Mars by 2050.
Lol. Good luck with that.
 

Skoob

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Yes he is a con.
Nothing pioneering about EVs. The first cars were all EVs dating back to the 1890s.
Tesla: Did not found it. Simply invested in it, pushed out the original engineers and founders and then calls himself chief engineer or whatever title.
Paypal: Did not found it. It started as Zip2, which changed name to x.com, merged with confinity founded by Peter Thiel, and then acquired by eBay and renamed to PayPal.
Calling himself engineer: He knows nothing about engineering. He does not even have an engineering degree. When he started Zip2, he apparently wrote code. But his code had to be scrapped in its entirety because it was so crappy.
Rockets: Except for landing boosters, nothing innovative there. Heck the reusable booster concept is nothing new either. NASA used to recover their boosters from the sea. NASA sent a man to the moon in 1969 with analog computers. Top that!
Neurotech:The first BCI research and tech goes back to the 70s. Nothing new there either.
He is a good marketer.
Thats about it.
Nothing he says is new or unheard of.
He just makes it sound profound.
His latest con - 1M people on Mars by 2050.
Lol. Good luck with that.
In other words he made good decisions and investments.
Unless of course he beat you to all of those things you seem to think anyone could have done and you were just lazy to pursue them yourself?
 

JohnLarue

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Yes he is a con.
Nothing pioneering about EVs. The first cars were all EVs dating back to the 1890s.
Tesla: Did not found it. Simply invested in it, pushed out the original engineers and founders and then calls himself chief engineer or whatever title.
Paypal: Did not found it. It started as Zip2, which changed name to x.com, merged with confinity founded by Peter Thiel, and then acquired by eBay and renamed to PayPal.
Calling himself engineer: He knows nothing about engineering. He does not even have an engineering degree. When he started Zip2, he apparently wrote code. But his code had to be scrapped in its entirety because it was so crappy.
Rockets: Except for landing boosters, nothing innovative there. Heck the reusable booster concept is nothing new either. NASA used to recover their boosters from the sea. NASA sent a man to the moon in 1969 with analog computers. Top that!
Neurotech:The first BCI research and tech goes back to the 70s. Nothing new there either.
He is a good marketer.
Thats about it.
Nothing he says is new or unheard of.
He just makes it sound profound.
His latest con - 1M people on Mars by 2050.
Lol. Good luck with that.

too funny

you could nitpick the same way about Bill Gates , Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, Edison and a myriad of others
it would require a hyper critical nature and likely a bias against people who have been financially successful

success requires more than just having a good idea
you need to identify a market demand for the good idea, now or in the near future
then you need to co-ordinate the resources (people, materials, equipment, IT . legal and $$$) to develop, test. modify, package, price, promote and deliver the good idea to the market and stay current in the market
very few people have the energy, drive, interpersonal skills, problem solving skills and vision to accomplish this

far more good ideas get derailed along this path way than actually become a commercial success
a single bad decision or a frustrating delay can result in missing the window of opportunity.
decisions by others can mess things up
not understanding how the market will evolve is also critical
  • Research in Motion had a ground breaking idea and enjoyed temporary success , but mistakenly thought voice communication would be too data intensive
  • Nicolas Tesla was a brilliant scientist but lacked other skills
  • Robertson had the best screw head idea which should have become the standard, but he could not do a deal with Henry Ford
  • I know of someone who invent a gadget that could pick open any lock made by a major lock manufacture. He was offered a pittance for the rights / patent by the lock maker who also indicate they would sue him into oblivion if he tried to market his good idea

the proof is in the success in the market
Elon Musk is not a con man
 

Skoob

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too funny

you could nitpick the same way about Bill Gates , Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, Edison and a myriad of others
it would require a hyper critical nature and likely a bias against people who have been financially successful

success requires more than just having a good idea
you need to identify a market demand for the good idea, now or in the near future
then you need to co-ordinate the resources (people, materials, equipment, IT . legal and $$$) to develop, test. modify, package, price, promote and deliver the good idea to the market and stay current in the market
very few people have the energy, drive, interpersonal skills, problem solving skills and vision to accomplish this

far more good ideas get derailed along this path way than actually become a commercial success
a single bad decision or a frustrating delay can result in missing the window of opportunity.
decisions by others can mess things up
not understanding how the market will evolve is also critical
  • Research in Motion had a ground breaking idea and enjoyed temporary success , but mistakenly thought voice communication would be too data intensive
  • Nicolas Tesla was a brilliant scientist but lacked other skills
  • Robertson had the best screw head idea which should have become the standard, but he could not do a deal with Henry Ford
  • I know of someone who invent a gadget that could pick open any lock made by a major lock manufacture. He was offered a pittance for the rights / patent by the lock maker who also indicate they would sue him into oblivion if he tried to market his good idea

the proof is in the success in the market
Elon Musk is not a con man
Unfortunately, people like Shaquille just decide they don't like someone, and then work backwards from there to justify their biased opinion about people.
It's a type of defense mechanism whereby they don't want to admit to themselves that they are actually that shallow.
 

richaceg

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Unfortunately, people like Shaquille just decide they don't like someone, and then work backwards from there to justify their biased opinion about people.
It's a type of defense mechanism whereby they don't want to admit to themselves that they are actually that shallow.
He's only a con because he has associated himself with Trump...had he backed the Democrats...he would've been an "innovator" probably will garner multiple awards...anything GOP associated are "racists" "fascists""uneducated" etc etc...
 

JohnLarue

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Unfortunately, people like Shaquille just decide they don't like someone, and then work backwards from there to justify their biased opinion about people.
It's a type of defense mechanism whereby they don't want to admit to themselves that they are actually that shallow.
yep and it all circles back to the messed up ideals behind wealth re-distribution
make a product that meets a demand in the market and improves the lives of other >>> your a hero
make a profit on that same product and increase your wealth in excess of an arbitrary amount that triggers the loonies >>>> your an evil con man who should be taxed until your rich no more.

support Donald Trump >>>> your an evil con man who should be cancelled

here is the really messed up part in this particular case

the loonie left has claimed the world is doomed if we don't switch from ICE to EV.
we are all going to be char broiled if this does not happen (pure garbage, however that's their position)
Musk is doing what ha can to facilitate this change
he should be a hero to the left, but no
apparently they hate him because he is getting rich by trying to meet their demands or they hate him because he supports Trump

so which is truly more important to the left
saving the planet or wealth re-distribution / intolerance of Trump supporters ?

if saving the plant was the true priority it would not matter if the devil himself was getting rich by delivering on their demand
 
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Unfortunately, people like Shaquille just decide they don't like someone, and then work backwards from there to justify their biased opinion about people.
It's a type of defense mechanism whereby they don't want to admit to themselves that they are actually that shallow.
You should've taken the 5th.

Self-portraits like the above, are nothing more than projected self-incrimination.

"I am, therefore I accuse!"

"Your honor, this man will fold like a cheap rug under questioning self-examination."
 
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Anbarandy

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.anything GOP associated are "racists" "fascists""uneducated" etc etc...
More "looking in the mirror self-revelations upon self-examination."

Just wait till self-reprisals, 360-degree haymakers and piston-like punching their own faces into a pulpy mess inevitably sets in after more self-revelations in the mirror become apparent.
 

richaceg

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More "looking in the mirror self-revelations upon self-examination."

Just wait till self-reprisals, 360-degree haymakers and piston-like punching their own faces into a pulpy mess inevitably sets in after more self-revelations in the mirror become apparent.
did you do the same when you found out Biden was incompetent and didn't do shit in the US? post pics or vids...
 

JohnLarue

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I'm glad I'm not the only one making this observation about him. Let me tell you, these guys are going to be pissy for the next 4 years and I expect we'll be hearing about it on a daily basis. But hey, it's still better than Kamilla being in office.
there is always hope some can mature and figure out the sky has not fallen
everyone makes mistakes in judgement and you can learn from experiences

seeing the light on a failed ideology would be humbling and difficult but possible if clear evaluation is undertaken

that said many a loonie will sadly go to their grave still frustrated their unachievable utopian world was not achieved
inequality has occurred since one caveman had an apple and another caveman did not.
no one was stopping the hungry caveman from looking for the apple tree

inequality is not going away
its part of human nature
 
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JohnLarue

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More "looking in the mirror self-revelations upon self-examination."

Just wait till self-reprisals, 360-degree haymakers and piston-like punching their own faces into a pulpy mess inevitably sets in after more self-revelations in the mirror become apparent.
That's a rather harsh view of what the democrats / loonie left are experiencing.
However if that is what is required to sweat the infection of their failed ideology out of them...... so be it.
no pain, no gain

the knife wounds to be inflict by the democrats on Kamala Harris will be countless
 
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Ahh, the classic "I will just define this word down until I can claim it means what I want it to mean" tactic.
Good old, post-modernist, post-truth conservative thinking.
Thanks, saw you were dead wrong all these months with that kind of thinking. Face reality old man.

There’s no alternative. Conservatives are the new normal.
 
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Maybe.
But not as shallow as some people who would resort to mental gymnasticst to argue that a convicted felon and a rapist is neither of those things, because ideology is more important than the truth for them.
I don’t understand why the conservatives cannot just accept that he is a conman and a criminal. Wouldn’t it trigger libs even more?
 
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