Jewish school in Canada targeted by gunfire during Yom Kippur, in 2nd attack in months

basketcase

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You're arguing that Palestinians invaded Palestine after the UN told them it wasn't Palestine any more.
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There was NEVER a Palestinian state. I hope that one day there will be a Palestinian state living peacefully beside Israel but that gets hard when westerners like you support Hamas' goals of eliminating the Jewish presence.

And no matter what you want to try, the UN voted for partition but the Arabs leaders chose war instead of peacefully living alongside jews.
 

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Why do Israelis vote for a corrupt, genocidal government?
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Interesting. You've told us repeatedly that Palestinians giving Hamas a legislative majority was their democratic right and that it was racist to say they are responsible for Hamas.
 

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So why aren't you ...
From the guy who still tries to blame Israel for Oct 7 and choses to lie about Israel starting the fighting.

Hamas chose to attack on the 7th. Israel retaliated.
Hezbollah chose to attack on Oct 8. Israel retaliated.
The Houthis attacked Israel on Oct 18. Israel retaliated.

With a normal human, I would be happy to discuss my opinion on the extent of Israel's retaliation but you are just a hate-filled zealot who is only interested in inciting hatred.
 

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Abbas and the PA are totally not effective, they're disliked by Palestinians which is why Abbas won't hold an election. Abbas was a failure internationally and domestically, all he did was rule over the occupied people without working to make their situation better.
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And you think hamas has? Wasting aid money on weapons, living in luxury in Doha, and constantly inciting conflict have done nothing to help people in Gaza.
 

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The last poll I saw said ...
...something totally different.

Most Jews think that the Jews who live in Israel should be allowed to continue living there. That is Zionism.

Even the anti-zionist religious Jews think Israel will be recreated. The only difference is they think it is up to god to have all Jews move there.
 

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You agree that Israel, as a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, is legally and morally obligated for the well being of those they occupy, even if its an illegal occupation.
Israel is entirely responsible for the occupation, blockade, apartheid and genocide.
More of Franky pretending Arabs aren't capable of making their own choices.

And the GC definitely allows Israel to defend themselves and their citizens from terrorists attacks.
 

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The occupation and apartheid have been the largest issues there for 76 years. You can't do anything else too positive while you can't even control imports and exports.
This was 12 years ago, but it hasn't changed much since then.
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It is really pathetic that Israel ensures their aid is above the WHO recommended levels and you try to pretend that's a bad thing.

And of course, imports and exports from Gaza as well as travel permits were at their highest level in years on Oct 6. Imagine how much food and industry could have been created with the 6000 tons of concrete and 1800 tons of steel Hamas used on their tunnels.


p.s. No surprise you didn't bother including a source for your list.
 

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Hamas was seen as resisting the occupation, while the PA was enabling it.
That makes them more popular.

The occupation and apartheid have been the largest issues there for 76 years. You can't do anything else too positive while you can't even control imports and exports.
This was 12 years ago, but it hasn't changed much since then.


Banned Items Gaza Blockade

Based on the provided search results, here is a comprehensive list of banned or restricted items in the Gaza Strip due to the Israeli blockade:
Initial List (2010)
  • Cardamom
  • Cumin
  • Coriander
  • Ginger
  • Jam
  • Vinegar
  • Halva
  • Chocolate
  • Fruit preserves
  • Seeds and nuts
  • Biscuits and sweets
  • Potato chips
  • Gas for soft drinks
  • Dried fruit
  • Fresh meat
  • Plaster
  • Tar
  • Wood for construction
  • Cement
  • Iron
  • Glucose
  • Industrial salt
  • Plastic/glass/metal containers
  • Industrial margarine
  • Tarpaulin sheets for huts
  • Fabric (for clothing)
  • Flavor and smell enhancers
  • Fishing rods
  • Various fishing nets
  • Buoys
  • Ropes for fishing
  • Nylon nets for greenhouses
  • Hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries
  • Spare parts for tractors
  • Dairies for cowsheds
  • Irrigation pipe systems
  • Ropes to tie greenhouses
  • Planters for saplings
  • Heaters for chicken farms
  • Musical instruments
  • Size A4 paper
  • Writing implements
  • Notebooks
  • Newspapers
  • Toys
  • Razors
  • Sewing machines and spare parts
  • Horses
  • Donkeys
  • Goats
  • Cattle
  • Chicks
  • Fresh fish
  • Canned vegetables
  • Processed cheese
  • Margarine
  • Pastry
  • Lentils
  • Pasta
  • Tomato paste
  • Cookies
  • Instant soup
  • Baby formula
  • Juice
  • Soda
  • Tea
  • Coffee
  • Flavorings and spices
  • Fresh apples
  • Grapes
  • Melons
  • Plums
  • Avocados
  • Garlic
  • Wheat
  • Rice
  • Sugar
  • Salt
  • Cooking oil
  • Fresh milk
  • Yogurt
  • Ice cream
  • Snack foods
  • Heaters
  • Fans
  • Refrigerators
  • Washing machines
  • Gas for cooking
  • Light bulbs
  • Candles
  • Matches
  • Batteries
  • Flashlights
  • Generators
  • Light fixtures
  • Electric shavers
  • Computers
  • Printers
  • Scanners
  • Blank CDs and DVDs
  • Radios
  • Televisions
  • Cell phones
  • Microwave ovens
  • Air conditioners
  • Heaters
  • Cameras
  • Video cameras
  • Photocopiers
  • Paper
  • Pens
  • Toys
  • Playing cards
  • Chess sets
  • Sports equipment
  • Fishing rods
  • Binoculars
  • Telescopes
  • Cigarettes
  • Shaving cream
  • Shampoo
  • Soap
  • Toothpaste
  • Dental floss
  • Deodorant
  • Perfume
  • Makeup
  • Skin care products
  • Nail polish
  • Sanitary napkins
  • Diapers
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels
  • Bedding
Revised List (2016)
  • Iron
  • Steel
  • Cinder blocks
  • Chemicals
  • Fertilizer
  • Building aggregates
  • Jeeps (only permitted under international supervision)
Revised List (2019)
  • Cement (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Lumber (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Fertilizer (banned due to potential use in explosives)
Other Items
  • Wheelchairs (have been banned at various times)
Where do you source this list and what make you think it can be trusted?

You keep saying 76 years of occupation and apartheid. What 76 years? What occupation? What apartheid?

Read some history books instead of BS tweets. The British Mandate for Palestine was created in 1922. It was partitioned into an Arab division of 'Palestine' and a Jewish division of 'Palestine'. The Arab partition of Palestine became sovereign Jordan in 1946, and the Jewish partition became sovereign Israel in 1948.
In 1948 Jordan fought with Israel gaining control of the West Bank and annexing it with its arab population.
Basically Jordan is the first Palestinian state, and is the Arab partition of Palestine.
Israel is also a Palestinian state and is the Jewish one.
 
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Where do you source this list and what make you think it can be trusted?

You keep saying 76 years of occupation and apartheid. What 76 years? What occupation? What apartheid?

Read some history books instead of BS tweets. The British Mandate for Palestine was created in 1922. It was partitioned into an Arab division of 'Palestine' and a Jewish division of 'Palestine'. The Arab partition of Palestine became sovereign Jordan in 1946, and the Jewish partition became sovereign Israel in 1948.
In 1948 Jordan fought with Israel gaining control of the West Bank and annexing it with its arab population.
Basically Jordan is the first Palestinian state, and is the Arab partition of Palestine.
Israel is also a Palestinian state and is the Jewish one.

This is the mentality you're dealing with...
 

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Where do you source this list and what make you think it can be trusted?

You keep saying 76 years of occupation and apartheid. What 76 years? What occupation? What apartheid?

Read some history books instead of BS tweets. The British Mandate for Palestine was created in 1922. It was partitioned into an Arab division of 'Palestine' and a Jewish division of 'Palestine'. The Arab partition of Palestine became sovereign Jordan in 1946, and the Jewish partition became sovereign Israel in 1948.
In 1948 Jordan fought with Israel gaining control of the West Bank and annexing it with its arab population.
Basically Jordan is the first Palestinian state, and is the Arab partition of Palestine.
Israel is also a Palestinian state and is the Jewish one.
Cult fiction
 
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Interesting. You've told us repeatedly that Palestinians giving Hamas a legislative majority was their democratic right and that it was racist to say they are responsible for Hamas.
So you're saying zionists chose the government they wanted.
I agree.

From the guy who still tries to blame Israel for Oct 7 and choses to lie about Israel starting the fighting.

Hamas chose to attack on the 7th. Israel retaliated.
Hezbollah chose to attack on Oct 8. Israel retaliated.
The Houthis attacked Israel on Oct 18. Israel retaliated.

With a normal human, I would be happy to discuss my opinion on the extent of Israel's retaliation but you are just a hate-filled zealot who is only interested in inciting hatred.
Israel chose to occupy Palestine, wipe it off the map, rule through apartheid and commit genocide.
For some reason you're surprised the indigenous people used their right to self defence against the illegal occupation you cheer on.

More of Franky pretending Arabs aren't capable of making their own choices.

And the GC definitely allows Israel to defend themselves and their citizens from terrorists attacks.
Are you back to declaring that Palestinians chose to be occupied, live under apartheid and experience genocide?
Own it, Israel is the military occupying power, they decided what happens at gun point.

It is really pathetic that Israel ensures their aid is above the WHO recommended levels
Its really pathetic that the WHO, OXFAM, MSF, WFP, Amnesty and the UN all say Israel is using starvation as a tactic for genocide and you need to lie about it.

You should listen to some non zionist Jews.
 
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