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COVID infection linked to sharp increase in long-term risk of heart attack, stroke: Cleveland Clinic, USC study

NotADcotor

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But you do know anecdotes are amongst the worst forms of data? It is by far the most subject to bias. But I critique gently as I am trying to understand.
So yes, it has been true that observations did lead to findings - eg thalidomide - but also observations a fervent few put out that turned out not to be true. (Silicone breat implants, original autism study).
It's important to know the different types of data
 

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Well when you consider that the vaccinated are more likely to be infected with covid than this makes our argument more valid.
Wow, what a dumb claim.

Yes, most people who get covid were vaccinated at some point but could that be because the vast majority of Canadians were vaccinated.
 

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Literally millions were vaccinated. Not 100 in a clinical trial. Millions. Fuck me.
 

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You want data to believe. Then look at the documents Pfizer tried to keep from being released for 75 years. That's all the data I needed to be true.
Pfizer spent the past 75 years hiding the data about the covid vaccine's impact on heart attacks and strokes? Who knew?
 

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Pfizer spent the past 75 years hiding the data about the covid vaccine's impact on heart attacks and strokes? Who knew?
No. They wanted to keep them from being released for 75 years. We would finally see the files on JFK's assassination before we saw the poison that Pfizer sold to the public.
 

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No. They wanted to keep them from being released for 75 years. We would finally see the files on JFK's assassination before we saw the poison that Pfizer sold to the public.
So you really think Pfizer has had the covid vaccine for 75 years? Holy shit.
 
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So you really think Pfizer has had the covid vaccine for 75 years? Holy shit.
That’s not what he’s saying. Pfizer fought tooth & nail to keep 55,000 pages of vaccine safety data PRIVATE for 75 years from the commencement of research so it wouldn’t be available until 2020 + 75 years, do the math. That doesnt strike you as even a little suspicious?

Speaking of data, I’m involved in many inner circles of big pharma…everybody inside the industry knows ‘studies’ & ‘data’ are largely driven by who’s funding it. Like, c’mon man, use your critical thinking capabilities. Not even the VP of Pfizer Canada got vaccinated lol I speak to these ppl regularly & no one on the executive board of Pfizer in Canada got it.

Stop painting everything as black & white, your word vs his. Use your critical thinking capacities & make your own decision.

if COVID exposed one thing to the masses, it was that big pharma, government, big tech, media, and insurance companies are clearly colluding behind the curtains. Draw whatever conclusion you want from that, but that’s a fact that cannot be argued. If you want to trust that system, go ahead, I genuinely don’t care.
 
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That’s not what he’s saying. Pfizer fought tooth & nail to keep 55,000 pages of vaccine safety data PRIVATE for 75 years from the commencement of research so it wouldn’t be available until 2020 + 75 years, do the math. That doesnt strike you as even a little suspicious?
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No shit big pharma is a dirty business. That doesn't change the fact that all of the actual medical studies of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people that have nothing to do with Pfizer refute all the idiotic claims the crazies make.

Hiding data from their studies decades ago has nothing to do with the results from a couple billion vaccinated people in the wild.


p.s. I have looked at lots of data and have made my decision. I just keep responding to the irrational trolls who keep demanding the rest of us change our minds.
p.p.s. 5 doses of vaccine for me and not even a hint of heart problems.
 

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That’s not what he’s saying. Pfizer fought tooth & nail to keep 55,000 pages of vaccine safety data PRIVATE for 75 years from the commencement of research so it wouldn’t be available until 2020 + 75 years, do the math. That doesnt strike you as even a little suspicious?

Speaking of data, I’m involved in many inner circles of big pharma…everybody inside the industry knows ‘studies’ & ‘data’ are largely driven by who’s funding it. Like, c’mon man, use your critical thinking capabilities. Not even the VP of Pfizer Canada got vaccinated lol I speak to these ppl regularly & no one on the executive board of Pfizer in Canada got it.

Stop painting everything as black & white, your word vs his. Use your critical thinking capacities & make your own decision.

if COVID exposed one thing to the masses, it was that big pharma, government, big tech, media, and insurance companies are clearly colluding behind the curtains. Draw whatever conclusion you want from that, but that’s a fact that cannot be argued. If you want to trust that system, go ahead, I genuinely don’t care.


Sure sure, more conspiracy nonsense .


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  • Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said he hasn’t received his company’s Covid-19 vaccine shot yet, telling CNBC that he and other executives will not “cut the line.”

Its not called critical thinking, it's called calling out the bullshit and nonsense. I've had four shots in the past and still run 5 to 10 km 5 days a week with a raging hard on so it's done wonders for me.
 
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Its not called critical thinking, it's called calling out the bullshit and nonsense. I've had four shots in the past and still run 5 to 10 km 5 days a week with a raging hard on so it's done wonders for me.
I donno man, I got 4 or 5 shots and just yesterday my dryer hose was lose and when I was looking to fix it I tore my dryer hose vent trying to remove some kinks. Fucking vaccines.
 
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If Covid was so deadly and the jab was 100% safe and effective why the fuck would Bourla be caught dead saying he won’t cut the line and save his dose for someone who needs it more. Are you really so gullible and stupid to believe that?
If you’ve received the jab and have had zero side effects consider yourselves fortunate AF.
The numbers of those who’ve suffered the three categories of adverse reaction….Injury, disability, and death, continue to be tabulated.
Pretty tuff to argue data when it comes from both Gov stats as well as insurance company actuarial analysis.

 

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If Covid was so deadly and the jab was 100% safe and effective why the fuck would Bourla be caught dead saying he won’t cut the line and save his dose for someone who needs it more. Are you really so gullible and stupid to believe that?
If you’ve received the jab and have had zero side effects consider yourselves fortunate AF.
The numbers of those who’ve suffered the three categories of adverse reaction….Injury, disability, and death, continue to be tabulated.
Pretty tuff to argue data when it comes from both Gov stats as well as insurance company actuarial analysis.

Millions and Millions of people around the world have taken the jab and doing absolutely fine. Deal with it, you are delusional about COVID and the vaccine.
 

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Millions and Millions of people around the world have taken the jab and doing absolutely fine. Deal with it, you are delusional about COVID and the vaccine.
Uh huh. 99.5% survivable covid and my immediate family member had an adverse reaction from her 2nd Pfizer jab and had to be hospitalized.
Just cuz it didn’t happen to you means fuck all.
 

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And who invented the vaccine to do evil, why the first evil, Justin Beiber.
BUT BUT BUT the delusional ones are claiming the inventors didn't take the jab. This means Justin didn't take the jab!!!! OH NO!!!!! We must save Bieber, Bieber's timbits are dependent on it.
 
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