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Leimonis

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So some instances have been called terrorist but the state has not been designated as one. But then again Iran has not designated Hamas as one either. Anyway both the US and Iran need to stop fueling the fire.
Yeah right. Like US is interested in fueling anything. Especially before elections where the current admin is hoping for support from the pro Pali crowd. While price of gas is the most important issue for most voters.
Kamala is probably praying for shit not to be happening there and for the fire to die.
 
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Frankfooter

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So some instances have been called terrorist but the state has not been designated as one. But then again Iran has not designated Hamas as one either. Anyway both the US and Iran need to stop fueling the fire.
You're splitting hairs now,.

There is no official designation of 'terrorists'.
Every government makes their own list, whether or not their are rules or if its just political pressure.
Its a useless metric.

Its time to return to international law instead of whoever is running a country making a 'declaration'.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You're splitting hairs now,.

There is no official designation of 'terrorists'.
Every government makes their own list, whether or not their are rules or if its just political pressure.
Its a useless metric.

Its time to return to international law instead of whoever is running a country making a 'declaration'.
The states you said called Israel terrorists have themselves not designated them as terrorists officially.
 

Frankfooter

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The states you said called Israel terrorists have themselves not designated them as terrorists officially.
You're still splitting hairs.
There is no official, globally recognized designation, method, rationale, definition or agreement on what terrorism means, what is an official government standing and what is assumed.

I know you're arguing that just because the US, Canada and a few others have lists means that you think all other countries must have similar lists. But really, this 'terrorism' term is largely something used seriously by western countries in the first place.

Really, its a way to avoid going through international law and agreements. So that the US can unilaterally declare whoever they like is a terrorist and therefore attack them and claim those attacks are justified even if they aren't legal.

Those states made public statements saying they think Israel is a terrorist state and your argument is about whether they did the correct paperwork so it counts.
 

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The states you said called Israel terrorists have themselves not designated them as terrorists officially.
LOLOLOLOL to Geno. Every time he's asked to back up a claim, dubious or otherwise, he falls flat on his face. Everybody who engages him in discussions learns sooner or later that he's a fraud. A liar.
 
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shack

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You're still splitting hairs.
There is no splitting hairs. You made an unqualified assertion that those 3 countries have declared that the state of Israel is a terrorist state. When asked to provide evidence you fail. Just the same when asked to provide a statement from a representative of the Lancet declaring that Israel was responsible for 300,000 deaths. You have failed to do so in about 4 months.

Why can't you give a clear answer to SO's challenge. Obviously it was just more of your lying and gaslighting (splitting hairs? LOL) and once again you have been exposed.
 

basketcase

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I think they would love nothing better, but realize that it's a very, very long term plan that's on the same scale as the Eglinton LRT.
I suspect anyone who has reached that level of power in a system like that is more into politics and pragmatism than extremism. Then again, since religious orthodoxy is one of the main criteria to enter their political world, I could be wrong.
 

basketcase

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Israel i...
Oh what a surprise. Instead of criticizing Iran for enriched enough uranium to 60% for a half dozen nukes, you just bitch about Israel. I'm sure you'll be happy when the Saudis get fed up and restart their own nuclear program (the only reason they stopped was because of US bribes).

And your NPT comments have never responded to Israel having been an existing power at the time of the NPT so even if they had joined, would still be allowed to keep their nukes.
 

basketcase

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JDL and Kahanists are.
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JDL isn't. At least not in canada.

But amazing how quickly you point out a Jewish group that none of us deny are terrorists while claiming it is racist to admit there are numerous Palestinian terror groups.

Here's what my 'racist' country says.
 

basketcase

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Call them what you want... the numbers of civilians killed won't change. Fact is that Netanyahoo is ethnically cleansing his neighbours and the US is helping him do it.... Lebanon is next.
Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
 

basketcase

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I am watching Godfather of Harlem now. Very decent show. Among other things it really shows how Islam made inroads into Black community. Malcolm X and Cassius Clay are in it. I am less surprised now that Palis managed to play the race card so well and attract racialized people in addition to the usual bleeding hearts and other various losers.
Very different form of Islam than that pushed by Iran or Hamas (though in the minds of the extreme fringe, no less hateful). Includes all sorts of black liberation influences.

Also worth noting that according to some Arab Muslim schools of thought, non-Arab Muslims are of a lower class which can still be seen in Egypt, Sudan, and parts of North Africa.
 

basketcase

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Actually, those who came here from Iran say that they, starting at grade 1 had to line up at school, do military style moves, and chant "Allahu Akbar, Khamenei is our supreme leader, death to America, death to Israel", followed by reading a passage from the Quran.

Persian Canadians are actually terrified to see how the many thousands of islamists and jihadists that they ran away from have come to Canada and other Western countries.

They say that they laughed at school when their religion teachers would say "Our goal is global domination and bringing jihad to all countries". They thought they were delusional. Turns out the West have accepted them with open arms.
How many of those people have you actually talked to? Have you talked to any elite Iranians? From those I've talked to (though not many) have been pretty normal people. As with most religious groups, it's used to keep the poor subservient but taken far less seriously among the rich and educated.
 

basketcase

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They have not ruled against Israel so far. Pro-palestinians can call that corrupt. Perspectives differ.
But extreme pro-Palestinians have an opinion that runs counter to the process. Their cases always take years; if it was only this case taking so long they may have a point.

Israel also sees them as corrupt for not following their own rules. The ICC is only supposed to act if the country refuses to investigate and act on their findings which doesn't apply right now. If the war ends and Israel refuses to do any serious investigations, then the ICC could intervene.
 

basketcase

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Its really a question of whether they support Israel because of money or because of racism.
I can't see any other reason these days.

!!!WARNING!!! Frank pushes OVERT JEW HATRED

What a surprise, you just posted a list of Jews and lied about them. It's just more of your racist trash. Instead of just pretending every Jew is really Israeli, you should really do some research. Oh wait, that would take away your chance to spew racist venom.
 
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