I am the same with you RE pot -- I can't touch it, it makes me extremely nervous and actually a bit paranoid. LSD has never had such an effect on me, though.
Single dose of LSD provides immediate and lasting relief from anxiety, study says
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If you're buying hydroponic pot with the CBD removed, certainly anxiety is inevitable.I stopped smoking it in the 00's, it debilitated me with anxiety. Currently I'm smoking pot again to buffer the brutality of chemotherapy. It's sweet stuff with the ratio of THC/CBD balanced, I'd be shitting blood without it...literally.
Is peyote an LSD....fuck Sarah Shahi is so hot. Recreating a scene from Leaving Las Vegas.
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Peyote/mescaline is a psychedelic, just like LSD, but it's not the same as LSD.
I've never taken peyote, but a friend of mine has. He said he liked it but not as much as LSD. One of the things that turns me off the idea of trying peyote is that I've heard it's typical to become briefly nauseous on the come-up and start puking. I know you un this risk with all psychedelics, but it seems more prevalent with mescaline. I have never become sick to my stomach on LSD or shrooms.
Same with ayahuasca. It sucks that becoming physically ill is part of the process.
Oh man, have you tried that? I saw a documentary on it. They were at this 'healing lodge' in Peru, I think it was, and each person is given a bucket before the start of their trip so they can puke and not make a mess. I'm sure the trip is awesome, but the puking? No, I will pass, lol
Ayahuasca eh, I miss William Hurt.
Finally saw the uncut version of Altered States.
I've never used illicit drugs. Are you really getting what they're promising you? What’s actually in those drugs, and what dosage are you taking? I’ve seen many people get wrecked by substance abuse. I met this young guy who thought he could get rich quick by outsmarting the system. He believed he’d hit the jackpot and live an easy life. He even told me he put LSD blotters in his eyes. Isn’t it foolish to risk your health or even your vision for a fleeting high?
Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd was one of those who thought he could expand his mind through drugs. By 1968, he was ousted from the band. When Pink Floyd was recording The Dark Side of the Moon in 1972, they noticed a strange, bald, pot-bellied man peering through the studio window. When they found out it was Syd, they rushed outside to see him, but he ran away. Some band members were so affected by his condition that they burst into tears.
I knew one of these guys that believed he could expand his mind with drugs, he was found dead with a needle stuck in a vein.
Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd was one of those who thought he could expand his mind through drugs. By 1968, he was ousted from the band. When Pink Floyd was recording The Dark Side of the Moon in 1972, they noticed a strange, bald, pot-bellied man peering through the studio window. When they found out it was Syd, they rushed outside to see him, but he ran away. Some band members were so affected by his condition that they burst into tears.
I knew one of these guys that believed he could expand his mind with drugs, he was found dead with a needle stuck in a vein.
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I have not as I'd prefer to not puke and shit myself but also because the trip is rather long. I'm definitely interested in trying bufo tho. It looks like a life changing trip.
The CIA's Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A 'Poisoner In Chief'
This is FRESH AIR. I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross. You may have heard stories about the CIA's secret experiments with LSD, through which '60s counterculture luminaries like Ken Kesey and Allen Ginsberg were first introduced to the drug. There's a lot more to the CIA experiments with LSD, and some of it is pretty horrifying. Our guest, journalist Stephen Kinzer, has spent several years investigating the CIA's mind control program, which was known as MKUltra. LSD was just one of the mind-altering drugs that were used in the program to see if and how they could be weaponized to control human behavior. Many of the unwitting subjects of these experiments were subjected to what amounts to psychological torture.
The MKUltra program was created by Sidney Gottlieb in 1953. He ran it until it was shut down in the early '60s. Gottlieb was also the CIA's chief chemist, creating poisons and innovative ways of surreptitiously administering them. He also became head of the CIA program that creates high-tech gadgets for spies to use. Stephen Kinzer's new book is called "Poisoner In Chief: Sidney Gottlieb And The CIA Search For Mind Control." It's now out in paperback. One of Kinzer's previous books was about the Dulles brothers, Allen and John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles was the CIA director during most of the years MKUltra was in operation. Kinzer spoke with Terry in September of last year, when "Poisoner In Chief" was released in hardback.
The CIA's Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A 'Poisoner In Chief' : NPR
This is FRESH AIR. I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross. You may have heard stories about the CIA's secret experiments with LSD, through which '60s counterculture luminaries like Ken Kesey and Allen Ginsberg were first introduced to the drug. There's a lot more to the CIA experiments with LSD, and some of it is pretty horrifying. Our guest, journalist Stephen Kinzer, has spent several years investigating the CIA's mind control program, which was known as MKUltra. LSD was just one of the mind-altering drugs that were used in the program to see if and how they could be weaponized to control human behavior. Many of the unwitting subjects of these experiments were subjected to what amounts to psychological torture.
The MKUltra program was created by Sidney Gottlieb in 1953. He ran it until it was shut down in the early '60s. Gottlieb was also the CIA's chief chemist, creating poisons and innovative ways of surreptitiously administering them. He also became head of the CIA program that creates high-tech gadgets for spies to use. Stephen Kinzer's new book is called "Poisoner In Chief: Sidney Gottlieb And The CIA Search For Mind Control." It's now out in paperback. One of Kinzer's previous books was about the Dulles brothers, Allen and John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles was the CIA director during most of the years MKUltra was in operation. Kinzer spoke with Terry in September of last year, when "Poisoner In Chief" was released in hardback.
The CIA's Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A 'Poisoner In Chief' : NPR
What a wonderful badge of honour to be able to have a discussion to figure out who knows the most about acid and any exotic natural drugs such as mushrooms, peyote/mescaline,etc.
Maybe there is a little hypocrisy not to think pot or booze in the same category but I never felt the need to subject my brain to hallinatory/ mind altering substances just to find out what would happen.
Maybe there is a little hypocrisy not to think pot or booze in the same category but I never felt the need to subject my brain to hallinatory/ mind altering substances just to find out what would happen.
I can't say I've known anyone who's tried the toad!
Yeah, I'm definitely with you on ayahuasca. Tripping is exhausting. After 8 hours on LSD, I'm more than ready for things to come down and get back to normal. This is why I find it hilarious when people say they're concerned about becoming 'addicted' to psychedelics. After a trip, you're good for a long, long time.
I do like shrooms once in awhile because the duration and intensity is half of what LSD gives you, but there's too much body load for me on shrooms.
People do different drugs for different reasons. I find psychedelics to be both fun and therapeutic, but others may disagree. Weed has a bad impact on me so I avoid it. I like a pint of beer or a glass of wine as much as the next person, but I'm well past the age where I enjoy getting pissed out of my skull and waking up at 3.30pm the next day with a bad headache and half-eaten shawarma stuck to my face.
I do, however, find that most people who are into psychedelics are pretty chilled out, cool people (not saying that's me!!, lol) who are likeable and interesting.
People who like their booze and weed are pretty ubiquitous -- all walks of life.
Cocaine abusers? They're usually finance-bro types or just ass-hats.
Yes, so here's my experience. 10-ug or less is really what a "true microdose" is. From that, you're not supposed to feel anything, but still get a benefit from it. I've done this and noticed nothing.
Upping to 20-ug or 30-ug is really outside the sphere of microdosing. It's a "small dose". At this level, I find that I get stuck in the "come-up" stage for 8 hours. It's like hours and hours of waiting for a trip to start but it never starts. Don't find it enjoyable.
These days, I only do 100-ug to 200-ug at a time. Usually 100.
Over time I've tapered up to around 110 ug and I find it to be highly beneficial from a cognitive perspective. Feels like a performance enhancing drug for my brain.
Perfectly stated!
I literally find that it helps me work through bad issues and accept things that need to be accepted.
As I once heard someone say, "there's no such thing as a 'bad trip'. A 'bad tip' is when the psychedelic presents you with an issue you don't want to deal with".
Ya I'm looking forward to doing a heroic dose in the near future so I can go on an exploration of my inner self. People really dismiss the therapeutic benefits of psychedelics but they can help in a big way.
So, I have ever gone beyond a packaged 222-ug dose -- that's the largest dose I've ever taken. My friend once took 1,800-ug, LOL -- he was on the floor in a pleasant trance, unable to move and but what he said was most profound was he got synesthesia -- colours he saw suddenly had taste. He saw something bright red, he was tasting strawberries, something yellow might taste like a banana, something green would taste like cabbage. I didn't ask if he saw anything brown, lol
Damn, that sounds both interesting as well as intense.
