US, allies sanction Iran for ‘supplying missiles’ to Russia

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Exactly. Nobody is disputing. that.

Where the dispute arises is when I say that the UN has never condemned Israel, you say, yes they have and cite the rapporteur's report.

A rapporteur's report is not a statement from the UNGA.
A rapporteur's report is not UN policy.
A rapporteur's report is not a UN resolution.

So when you claim, as you've done numerous times, that "the UN says that Israel is committing genocide" is not at all true. It is a finding of an investigation submitted it to them. That's all. If the UNGA ever adopts that stance, then they will issue a statement saying so and/or passing a resolution. Until such time, it is a lie to say that is the official UN position.

You cannot use a report and then say "that's what the UN says".
The UN Rapporteur's reports are the views on a country's human rights abuses which the UN can use to make informed decisions about policy and resolutions.
They are the official record of a country's human rights abuses.

As such, Israel is marked as apartheid, ruling an illegal occupation and committing genocide according to the UN.

The UN says Israel's occupation is illegal, is committing apartheid and genocide.
Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit and trying to promote genocide.



 
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The UN Rapporteur's reports are the views on a country's human rights abuses which the UN can use to make informed decisions about policy and resolutions.
They are the views of a single individual who is not an official of the UN. Their job is to gather information. They are not authorized to state the opinion of the UN. So that is a lie.
They are the official record of a country's human rights abuses.
Not necessarily. The rapporteur is not authorized to establish the opinion of the UN and speak on behalf of them.

As such, Israel is marked as apartheid, ruling an illegal occupation and committing genocide according to the UN.
Not necessarily. The UN has not explicitly stated that. The UN has passed no such resolution as they did in the 60's in regards to S. Africa with resolution #1761.

The UN says Israel's occupation is illegal, is committing apartheid and genocide. Those are 3 different things. The UN has not issued any statements claiming that Israel is committing genocide or apartheid. I keep asking you for those but all you have in your hand is your limp dick. You are lying.
Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit and trying to promote genocide.
Anyone who says that the UN has issued a statement condemning Israel of apartheid or genocide is full of shit. You have yet to produce a statement from the UN saying that.
 
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Anyone who says that the UN has issued a statement condemning Israel of apartheid or genocide is full of shit. You have yet to produce a statement from the UN saying that.
Its right here, Shazi.

Same thing the ICJ found, Shazi.
Anyone denying Israeli apartheid at this point is bullshitting.

World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid

 
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Israel sells way more weapons to despots.
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Are you doubting that Iran is supplying missiles? Are statements from Iran and Russia not good enough evidence? The way you try and cover your idiotically racist views by complaining that everyone else is the real racist is pretty fucked.

Do you support Russia's invasion of Ukraine? If not then you must consider it bad that Iran is selling poorly guided weapons systems to Russia. But no, Iran's leaders hates Israel as much as you do so you're willing to greenlight anything they do.

BTW. You keep posting about UN groups reports about human rights so this report release on Friday should interest you.
Iran intensifying efforts to repress women and girls on second anniversary of nation-wide protests, UN Fact-Finding Mission says
 

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Are you doubting that Iran is supplying missiles? Are statements from Iran and Russia not good enough evidence? The way you try and cover your idiotically racist views by complaining that everyone else is the real racist is pretty fucked.

Do you support Russia's invasion of Ukraine? If not then you must consider it bad that Iran is selling poorly guided weapons systems to Russia. But no, Iran's leaders hates Israel as much as you do so you're willing to greenlight anything they do.

BTW. You keep posting about UN groups reports about human rights so this report release on Friday should interest you.
Iran intensifying efforts to repress women and girls on second anniversary of nation-wide protests, UN Fact-Finding Mission says
Wow, repressing rights.
I can see why you think that's way more evil than apartheid and genocide.
cuz you're an Islamaphobe

The Israeli-Arab war you keep arguing for is expanding, now you want Iran involved too.
Isn't it bad enough that Israel is committing genocide inside Palestine and attacking Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen and Egypt?

How much more killing of Arabs do you need?


West Bank: Israel Responsible for Rising Settler Violence
Entire Palestinian Communities Displaced Months After Attacks

 
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Its right here, Shazi.
Thank you for proving my point. The UN told us what one person thinks. In the last 2 years plus, his calls for his report to be accepted have been ignored. LOLOLOLOL

That story does not say that it is the UN's position which further explains why they have not passed a general resolution condemning Israel of apartheid like they did in the mid-60's regarding S. African apartheid, resolution 1761. That's what I've been saying all along.

Thanks again for posting things that directly rebut your own claims.
 

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Thank you for proving my point. The UN told us what one person thinks. In the last 2 years plus, his calls for his report to be accepted have been ignored. LOLOLOLOL

That story does not say that it is the UN's position which further explains why they have not passed a general resolution condemning Israel of apartheid like they did in the mid-60's regarding S. African apartheid, resolution 1761. That's what I've been saying all along.

Thanks again for posting things that directly rebut your own claims.
Total nonsense.

Israel is apartheid as ruled by the ICJ, UN, HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem.

 
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Total nonsense.
Israel is apartheid as ruled by the ICJ, UN, HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem.
His report is over 2 years old. He asked for his report to be accepted and adopted by the UN. The UN has NOT done so. The UNGA has not passed a resolution condemning Israel of apartheid as history shows they did with resolution #1761 and S. Africa. Why not Geno?

Where is that resolution from the UNGA, Geno? You've got more hot air than the Saharan Desert. Stop lying already. Your lies will not go unchallenged.
 

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His report is over 2 years old. He asked for his report to be accepted and adopted by the UN. The UN has NOT done so. The UNGA has not passed a resolution condemning Israel of apartheid as history shows they did with resolution #1761 and S. Africa. Why not Geno?

Where is that resolution from the UNGA, Geno? You've got more hot air than the Saharan Desert. Stop lying already. Your lies will not go unchallenged.
You know the answer.
Negroponte Doctrine.

But you will get this.

 

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You know the answer.
We agree that the HRW report of July 27 was not debunked as you'd previously claimed. Hamas committed war crimes and acts against humanity on Oct.7/23.
 

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We agree that the HRW report of July 27 was not debunked as you'd previously claimed. Hamas committed war crimes and acts against humanity on Oct.7/23.
So you are arguing that Hamas is almost as evil as Israel.
Well done.

Take them both to the ICC and ICJ.
Kick Israel out of the UN.
Boycott all Israeli tech, it might kill you.
Obey the UN and ICJ, end the occupation.

HRW today:
Lebanon: Exploding Pagers Harmed Hezbollah, Civilians
 

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So you are arguing that Hamas is almost as evil as Israel.
No. Any idiot can see that what I'm arguing is that your claim of the HRW report of July 27 being debunked is total BS. It was simply another intentional lie.
 

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No. Any idiot can see that what I'm arguing is that your claim of the HRW report of July 27 being debunked is total BS. It was simply another intentional lie.
Right, so you're saying that Israel is clearly way worse than Hamas because there is only 1 HRW report on Hamas but dozens and dozens on Israel. The fact that you have to work so hard to find even one HRW report on Hamas is proof that Israel is way way more evil.

After all, its been a year of confessions through accusations.
Every time you've accused Hamas we've found Israel has done worse.
Rape
Human shields
Torture
Targeting civilians
Terrorism

You've done a great job proving that Israel is way more fucking evil than Hamas on every single metric.
congrats
 
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