Inflation expected to ease to 2.1%, lowest level since March 2021: economists

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Economists anticipate that Canada's annual inflation rate in August fell to its lowest level since March 2021.

Ahead of Statistics Canada's consumer price index set to be released on Tuesday, economists polled by Reuters are expecting the report to show prices rose 2.1 per cent from a year ago, down from a 2.5 per cent annual gain in July. The forecasters also anticipate inflation remained flat on a month-over-month basis.

"Unless there's something lurking out there that we're not aware of, it looks like we're headed for a pretty favourable reading," said BMO chief economist Douglas Porter.


RBC economists Nathan Janzen and Claire Fan said in a report last week that those expectations would put the headline inflation rate just a hair over the Bank of Canada's two per cent inflation target.

"Most of that August slowing is expected from a pullback in gasoline prices, but the (Bank of Canada's) preferred core CPI measures are also expected to trend lower, with the closely-watched three-month annualized growth rate easing from an average of 2.6 per cent in July," the RBC economists said.

The continued progress on slowing inflation comes as the central bank has signalled a willingness to speed up cuts to its key lending rate if circumstances warrant.

The Bank of Canada reduced its key lending rate by a quarter-percentage point earlier this month — the third consecutive cut — to 4.25 per cent. Governor Tiff Macklem said the decision was motivated by falling inflation, noting if the CPI moving forward "was significantly weaker than we expected ... it could be appropriate to take a bigger step, something bigger than 25 basis points."

On the other hand, Macklem said if inflation is stronger than expected, the bank could slow the pace of rate cuts.

Inflation has remained below three per cent since January and fears of price growth reaccelerating have diminished as the economy has weakened.

Porter said despite progress on the inflation rate, it's still "not in a place where it's a compelling argument that the bank has to go even faster."

He forecasts the central bank will cut its key lending rate by a quarter-percentage point at every meeting until July 2025, bringing it down to 2.5 per cent by that time. That prediction also comes after data released last week that showed Canada's unemployment rate rose to 6.6 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

However, Porter said it's possible the bank could speed up its rate cutting cycle if inflation continues easing.

"If we're going to be wrong, it's that we're going to get to 2.5 per cent even more quickly and possibly lower than that," said Porter.

"There is a case to be made that if the economy were to weaken further, there's little reason for the bank to keep rates in what they consider to be the neutral zone. They could go below that."

Shelter costs have remained the main driver of inflation as Canadians face high rents and mortgage payments. Porter noted that when factoring out housing costs, inflation in both Canada and U.S. is hovering slightly above one per cent.

"So really, the only thing keeping Canadian inflation above two per cent is shelter and it does look like shelter costs are probably going to fade," he said.


"It looks as if rents are starting to moderate. They're not necessarily falling, but not rising as quickly. And of course with interest rates coming down, ultimately the big kahuna here, mortgage interest costs, will recede as well."

With the U.S. Federal Reserve set to meet on Wednesday, Janzen and Fan said they expect the American central bank to announce its first rate cut in four years.

"Gradual but persistent labour market softening and slowing inflation make it clear that current high interest rates are no longer needed," they wrote.

"We think governor (Jerome) Powell’s comments will likely stay on the cautious side — hinting at future rate cuts without committing to a pre-determined path to allow for more flexibility in future decisions."

—With files from Nojoud Al Mallees in Ottawa

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Sept. 15, 2024.

Inflation expected to ease to 2.1%: economists | CP24.com
 

angrymime666

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Does it really matter at this point?

Shits still expensive and prices are not going to drop. Unless wages catch up which consequentially also will inflate things.

I think for people what it comes to is if they can afford to live and still have a relatively comfortable lifestyle.
 

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A little deflation would be nice for retirees with non indexed DB pensions.
 

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Statistics Canada reporting that September inflation was tracking to 1.6% annually.

I don't believe this for a second. My bank and credit card statements don't lie.
 
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Statistics Canada reporting that September inflation was tracking to 1.6% annually.

I don't believe this for a second. My bank and credit card statements don't lie.
They don't want you to believe your own eyes.
 

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Statistics Canada reporting that September inflation was tracking to 1.6% annually.

I don't believe this for a second. My bank and credit card statements don't lie.
Don't believe it. It's all manipulation of gas prices.


"Excluding gasoline prices, however, the inflation rate remained at 2.2% in September, Statscan said."
 

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All the food items in the grocery store that have had their prices raised are still expensive. I suspect it will be years before we see an improvement in the economy.
 

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Fuck them and their bullshit manipulated CPI.
Reality is they have to lower interest rates or the deck of cards known as Canada falls apart at the seams starting with housing.
Easiest way out of this mess is inflation to the moon, as the average person has no idea what's going on.
 

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Yeah right now that prices of everything were jack up of course inflation goes down a bit. Heck we are broke.

i put my name on an support an African web site and its 3 of them that want to father me at 29$ a month 😷
 

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All the food items in the grocery store that have had their prices raised are still expensive. I suspect it will be years before we see an improvement in the economy.
I don't think the prices will drop; they will remain the same, and more than likely rise but not for a while.

I look at it like this. My employer gave me yearly raises and performance based raises. If my employers costs go down and mine do as well does that means my employer can/will take back my cost of living wages?

I don't think so. I'm not going to give back my cost of living wage. I think every one is like that including any company. Perhaps if deflation occurs.(which I don't think I have seen in my lifetime directly, that I remember)

I could get chick peas for 0.79 a can pre COVID. Now it's 1.69. I don't think I will see a price deduction. I don't know about other products very well but I don't for see it changing either.
 

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I don't think the prices will drop; they will remain the same, and more than likely rise but not for a while.
Some food distributors have increased their prices to the point where consumers are either buying less or stopping altogether. Companies like Recipe Unlimited Corporation and McDonald's have seen significant drops in earnings over the past few years and may need to lower prices to attract customers again. Since June, McDonald's in the U.S. has introduced reduced-price lunch options and informed franchisees that they will need to continue this strategy without profit until the end of the year.

Inflation in the fast food industry began even before the pandemic, driven by increases in minimum wage rates across various states and provinces, approaching $20 an hour.
 

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Some food distributors have increased their prices to the point where consumers are either buying less or stopping altogether. Companies like Recipe Unlimited Corporation and McDonald's have seen significant drops in earnings over the past few years and may need to lower prices to attract customers again. Since June, McDonald's in the U.S. has introduced reduced-price lunch options and informed franchisees that they will need to continue this strategy without profit until the end of the year.

Inflation in the fast food industry began even before the pandemic, driven by increases in minimum wage rates across various states and provinces, approaching $20 an hour.
Agreed. I recall Micky d introducing a value menu of sort which was a trial run. Not sure if they stuck with it. I know California increase their minimum wage to a "living wage" which resulted in increased automation as well as staff reductions.
 

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Economists anticipate that Canada's annual inflation rate in August fell to its lowest level since March 2021.

Ahead of Statistics Canada's consumer price index set to be released on Tuesday, economists polled by Reuters are expecting the report to show prices rose 2.1 per cent from a year ago, down from a 2.5 per cent annual gain in July. The forecasters also anticipate inflation remained flat on a month-over-month basis.

"Unless there's something lurking out there that we're not aware of, it looks like we're headed for a pretty favourable reading," said BMO chief economist Douglas Porter.


RBC economists Nathan Janzen and Claire Fan said in a report last week that those expectations would put the headline inflation rate just a hair over the Bank of Canada's two per cent inflation target.

"Most of that August slowing is expected from a pullback in gasoline prices, but the (Bank of Canada's) preferred core CPI measures are also expected to trend lower, with the closely-watched three-month annualized growth rate easing from an average of 2.6 per cent in July," the RBC economists said.

The continued progress on slowing inflation comes as the central bank has signalled a willingness to speed up cuts to its key lending rate if circumstances warrant.

The Bank of Canada reduced its key lending rate by a quarter-percentage point earlier this month — the third consecutive cut — to 4.25 per cent. Governor Tiff Macklem said the decision was motivated by falling inflation, noting if the CPI moving forward "was significantly weaker than we expected ... it could be appropriate to take a bigger step, something bigger than 25 basis points."

On the other hand, Macklem said if inflation is stronger than expected, the bank could slow the pace of rate cuts.

Inflation has remained below three per cent since January and fears of price growth reaccelerating have diminished as the economy has weakened.

Porter said despite progress on the inflation rate, it's still "not in a place where it's a compelling argument that the bank has to go even faster."

He forecasts the central bank will cut its key lending rate by a quarter-percentage point at every meeting until July 2025, bringing it down to 2.5 per cent by that time. That prediction also comes after data released last week that showed Canada's unemployment rate rose to 6.6 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

However, Porter said it's possible the bank could speed up its rate cutting cycle if inflation continues easing.

"If we're going to be wrong, it's that we're going to get to 2.5 per cent even more quickly and possibly lower than that," said Porter.

"There is a case to be made that if the economy were to weaken further, there's little reason for the bank to keep rates in what they consider to be the neutral zone. They could go below that."

Shelter costs have remained the main driver of inflation as Canadians face high rents and mortgage payments. Porter noted that when factoring out housing costs, inflation in both Canada and U.S. is hovering slightly above one per cent.

"So really, the only thing keeping Canadian inflation above two per cent is shelter and it does look like shelter costs are probably going to fade," he said.


"It looks as if rents are starting to moderate. They're not necessarily falling, but not rising as quickly. And of course with interest rates coming down, ultimately the big kahuna here, mortgage interest costs, will recede as well."

With the U.S. Federal Reserve set to meet on Wednesday, Janzen and Fan said they expect the American central bank to announce its first rate cut in four years.

"Gradual but persistent labour market softening and slowing inflation make it clear that current high interest rates are no longer needed," they wrote.

"We think governor (Jerome) Powell’s comments will likely stay on the cautious side — hinting at future rate cuts without committing to a pre-determined path to allow for more flexibility in future decisions."

—With files from Nojoud Al Mallees in Ottawa

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Sept. 15, 2024.

Inflation expected to ease to 2.1%: economists | CP24.com
What does the inflation percentage number mean exactly?

Does it mean relative cost increase on average, this year vs previous year? Ie prices this year is on average 2.1% higher than last year?
 

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I don't think the prices will drop; they will remain the same, and more than likely rise but not for a while.

I look at it like this. My employer gave me yearly raises and performance based raises. If my employers costs go down and mine do as well does that means my employer can/will take back my cost of living wages?

I don't think so. I'm not going to give back my cost of living wage. I think every one is like that including any company. Perhaps if deflation occurs.(which I don't think I have seen in my lifetime directly, that I remember)

I could get chick peas for 0.79 a can pre COVID. Now it's 1.69. I don't think I will see a price deduction. I don't know about other products very well but I don't for see it changing either.
Have you tried No Frills, Freshco, or Food Basics for the chick peas?
 

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Canada and the US have experienced back-to-back major droughts in the past decade. Farming and raising livestock is very capital intensive, so the increased interest rates also contributed. With lowering interest rates, food prices should drop a bit, but the drought issues will still dominate food prices.
 

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Have you tried No Frills, Freshco, or Food Basics for the chick peas?
Last time I checked it was 10¢ less. Been doing keto so my diet no longer has legumes in it. The discount stores do offer better prices but no where near previous prices. I'm always looking for a bargain and I haven't seen them for a while. Sometimes they have deals but it not very often.
 

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Inflation is likely to persist for decades, affecting the most of the hobbyist among us for the rest of their lives. We’ve already weathered the subprime crisis of 2008 and the pandemic that began in 2020. Governments around the world have spent heavily and will eventually need to repay those debts. If you’re aware of this reality, you’re ahead of many who aren’t.
Prepare for a lifestyle that may not match what you’ve enjoyed in the past. Expect to pay more for less, and brace for a sluggish economy for the foreseeable future. Life may not be as good as it once was. Even if you’ve taken steps to shield yourself from tougher times, many others haven’t, and they’ll be facing greater hardships.
Be ready for a society where people struggle more than you do. You might encounter U-men in dire situations, seeking help, and there may be unrest among those who feel left behind. Those who are comfortable will likely need to find ways to protect themselves from those who are not.


I envision a bleak future where U-men roam the streets, pestering people for loonies, and resorting to violence if they don’t get what they want. At night, the cacklers emerge, disturbing the peace out of their own discontent. It seems like things will deteriorate for a long time before there’s any chance of improvement. Is there any hope for a revival of the world economies, returning to a time when each year was better than the last, reminiscent of the post-baby boom era? Insulate yourself from hard times and know that you are better off than most. If I am wrong and exaggerated how things could be, then you will still be in the best place you can be by preparing for hard times.
 
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"Unless there's something lurking out there that we're not aware of, it looks like we're headed for a pretty favourable reading," said BMO chief economist Douglas Porter.[1]

The Bank of Canada reduced its key lending rate by a quarter-percentage point earlier this month — the third consecutive cut — to 4.25 per cent.[2]


However, Porter said it's possible the bank could speed up its rate cutting cycle if inflation continues easing.[3]


"There is a case to be made that if the economy were to weaken further, there's little reason for the bank to keep rates in what they consider to be the neutral zone. They could go below that."
[1] The truth of the matter is that the governments of the world is not telling you the whole truth. Many countries are deep in debt, deeper than they have been in the past due to the downturns in economies after the U.S. subprime crisis of 2008 and the pandemic.

[2] The government will tell you that the economy is getting better and inflation is easing. Consumers do not see inflation easing at the grocery store or the housing market.

[3] Inflation is not the only reason why the governments of the world will raise or lower interest rates, there are other factors that dictate the path of interest rates. Politics and government debt are factors that determine interest rates. Canada must also follow the direction of other countries, mainly the U.S.


The world’s governments are facing unprecedented levels of debt, reminiscent of the situation after World War II. During that time, massive spending resulted in significant government debt, including obligations to citizens through government bonds and debts to other nations. Following WWII, U.S. interest rates fell to around 1.7%, largely due to high government debt, which also helped stimulate a sluggish transitioning economy.


After the 2008 subprime crisis, ( estimated cost to U.S. government - $400 billion ) the U.S. reduced interest rates from 2.3% in 2008 to 1.5% by 2016. When the pandemic hit, the economy stalled, prompting substantial stimulus measures to prevent a collapse. In recent years, the government raised the interest rates to take the fat out of the economy from due to stimulus during the pandemic

The economies of the world are not in good condition. Interest rates will keep dropping due to the need to stimulate the economy and high government debt. Low on the list of priorities is concern for inflation.
 
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