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Poilievre calls out Jagmeet 'Sellout' Singh to end deal with Liberals

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How so?

If you personally don't like them that's one thing, but objectively two of them were in a majority coalition and almost destroyed the country together.
How have Justin and Jagmeet destroyed the country? Have you lost your home,savings and left the country for greener pastures?

Interest rates are coming down, inflation is down, and homes are down a tad but still holding their value. If by the spring the economy is doing great will Justin and Jagmeet have saved the country in your opinion??
 
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DesRicardo

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Not trusted to make decisions in the best interest of Canadian citizens as opposed to doing what's best for them personally. You didn't answer my question, which one do you trust?
There has to be an objective part to the accusation. Anything outside of that is a conspiracy theory, except for Justin and his staff because we know they help facilitate thefts up to $200 million dollar of tax payer money.

When you ask who I trust, that is very ambiguous. I trust all of them to follow the rules and work within the law. When it comes to policies, I may or may not trust the policy based on several factors.
 

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How have Justin and Jagmeet destroyed the country? Have you lost your home,savings and left the country for greener pastures?

Interest rates are coming down, inflation is down, and homes are down a tad but still holding their value. If by the spring the economy is doing great will Justin and Jagmeet have saved the country in your opinion??
Firstoff I said almost. Second, You've already answered your own question. You know they fucked up and they had to hurriedly fix the mistakes.

Last month you guys said nothing was wrong with immigration and we were being xenophobic, now Justin agrees immigration needs to be lowered. Is he telling the truth or has he become xenophobic as well?
 
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jimidean2011

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I trust all of them to follow the rules and work within the law
And you genuinely feel that they do this? Because there are countless scandals that come to the surface on a regular basis and our current pm has violated the law in numerous ways with zero repercussions or accountability. Politicians are corrupt by nature. Their only motivation is their own best interest. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately.
 

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Firstoff I said almost. Second, You've already answered your own question. You know they fucked up and they had to hurriedly fix the mistakes.

Last month you guys said nothing was wrong with immigration and we were being xenophobic, now Justin agrees immigration needs to be lowered. Is he telling the truth or has he become xenophobic as well?
Corporations were abusing the Temporary Foreign Worker rules.
That's been fixed.

International students have been way cut back but now the provinces need to replace that funding.

Now you're left with PeePee repeating Putin talking points.
 

DesRicardo

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And you genuinely feel that they do this? Because there are countless scandals that come to the surface on a regular basis and our current pm has violated the law in numerous ways with zero repercussions or accountability. Politicians are corrupt by nature. Their only motivation is their own best interest. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately.
Until you have proof or evidence, how can you rightfully assume someone is guilty of anything? And after that, we have opposing parties that point out infractions or breaches.

Like how do you know your wife isn't screwing the neighbour behind your back? It's all Paranoia until you have evidence.

Also, here is another article of the Trudeau government being corrupt and wasting Tax dollars.
 

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And you genuinely feel that they do this? Because there are countless scandals that come to the surface on a regular basis and our current pm has violated the law in numerous ways with zero repercussions or accountability. Politicians are corrupt by nature. Their only motivation is their own best interest. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately.
RE: Politicians are corrupt by nature

Obama stated the one accomplishment he was most proud of was there were no major scandals in his administration tenure.
i consider ''the science is settled '' to be completely disingenuous and extremely foolish however that is my view.

Prime minister Steven Harper only real blemish was trying to fix the $100 K problem created by the fat senator Mike Duffy padding his expense account.
The loonie left wanted Harpers hide for that transgression, yet they seem perfectly willing to let Trudeaus never ending corrupt scandals continue.

Politicians are corrupt by nature if allowed to get away with the first corrupt act
 
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Until you have proof or evidence, how can you rightfully assume someone is guilty of anything? And after that, we have opposing parties that point out infractions or breaches.

Like how do you know your wife isn't screwing the neighbour behind your back? It's all Paranoia until you have evidence.

Also, here is another article of the Trudeau government being corrupt and wasting Tax dollars.
By your logic I could argue that a member of the mafia who has yet to incur a criminal conviction can be considered trustworthy. All politicians are corrupt to varying degrees regardless of whether they've been caught yet. Sorry if naivety prevents you from realizing that.
 

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Obama stated the one accomplishment he was most proud of was there were no major scandals in his administration tenure.
What about the countless innocent civilians killed by drone strikes while he was president? What about the fact his wife is a man?
 

DesRicardo

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By your logic I could argue that a member of the mafia who has yet to incur a criminal conviction can be considered trustworthy. All politicians are corrupt to varying degrees regardless of whether they've been caught yet. Sorry if naivety prevents you from realizing that.
By your logic, I could argue that a random person could walk into wal-mart and detained for shoplifting without actually committing the act of shoplifting.

You can't call out corruption before corruption even happens. Regardless of trust, there has to a a fair process.
 

jimidean2011

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Also, here is another article of the Trudeau government being corrupt and wasting Tax dollars
For the record I consider JT to be the biggest criminal in the history of Canada. One of the main problems is just how good he is at burying the truth in places too deep to find. For example he was accused of sexual assault just like Trump. I can google Trump and find a-z on the subject. Try finding the same info on JT. You can't because he's had it buried deeper than dinosaur bones so he can try and uphold his image. JT is as greasy as they come.
 

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By your logic, I could argue that a random person could walk into wal-mart and detained for shoplifting without actually committing the act of shoplifting.

You can't call out corruption before corruption even happens. Regardless of trust, there has to a a fair process.
No because not all citizens are thieves, whereas all politicians are corrupt to some extent. You will tell yourself people join politics to improve society and champion positive change when in reality everyone that joins politics does so for their own personal benefit in one way or the other.
 

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No because not all citizens are thieves, whereas all politicians are corrupt to some extent. You will tell yourself people join politics to improve society and champion positive change when in reality everyone that joins politics does so for their own personal benefit in one way or the other.
All citizens are corrupt as well. At some point we've all bent the law to work for us, have taken advantage of a situation to work for us.

Nothing wrong with doing things for your own personal benefit. We are suppose to be compensated for good work. If you can't actually point to an unlawful activity, you are pointing at nothing.
 

jimidean2011

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If you can't actually point to an unlawful activity, you are pointing at nothing.
Sigh, it's like you're deliberately trying to miss the point. It's just like I all ready pointed out. Is a member of the mafia without a criminal record considered trustworthy? I guess technically we would have to say yes because there is no record to prove otherwise so how about this, if I introduced you to my uncle tony and provided you with a statement from police saying he has no convictions would you open up an Italian restaurant with him as your partner?
 

DesRicardo

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Is a member of the mafia without a criminal record considered trustworthy?
Is their affiliation with the mob based on evidence? That's what it comes down to.

If I grab some random Italian guy and accuse him of mob ties, it's all baseless.
 

jimidean2011

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Is their affiliation with the mob based on evidence?
Yes, he's been charged multiple times but the witnesses never made it to court resulting in no convictions, do you open the restaurant with him or err on the side of caution?
 
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