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Phil C. McNasty

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If you are thinking locally and myopically , perhaps you are correct but if you consider the macroscopic global effect, then you would appear to incorrect
And whats the macroscopic global effect??
 

Y_Diner

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Blame polluted waters and deforestation. Not driving cars.
It’s all those things and more.
Most don’t care, never have and never will.
What’s matters to most is their social media getting views and likes, the latest fast food, and fashion craze, and let’s not forget, the Kardashians and the like.
Earth might be done with us soon. She’ll go on.
We will not.
 
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Frankfooter

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Those with the most power are to blame.
If you ever littered, drive a car, and participate in the Western economy, you are also to blame.
We all are.
I would disagree.
Blame the people in power who refuse to change the system so that there are viable options.
Blame the people who took the oil$gas money instead trying to fix the problems.

Anything is greenwashing.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The big picture, globally not just a Toronto summer
Right, but earth has only warmed up 1 to 1.5 degrees C over the last century or so, and the sky hasnt fallen yet.
And this is after scientists predicted in the 1990's that a 1 degree increase would cause serious climate change, which never happened
 

Y_Diner

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I would disagree.
Blame the people in power who refuse to change the system so that there are viable options.
Blame the people who took the oil$gas money instead trying to fix the problems.

Anything is greenwashing.
They are all to blame as well.
No one is innocent in this situation.
 

roddermac

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It’s all those things and more.
Most don’t care, never have and never will.
What’s matters to most is their social media getting views and likes, the latest fast food, and fashion craze, and let’s not forget, the Kardashians and the like.
Earth might be done with us soon. She’ll go on.
We will not.
 
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lomotil

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Right, but earth has only warmed up 1 to 1.5 degrees C over the last century or so, and the sky hasnt fallen yet.
And this is after scientists predicted in the 1990's that a 1 degree increase would cause serious climate change, which never happened
Climate change has been going on well before recorded history and will continue to do so. Human civilization has adapted in some cases and in others not so much I& at all and it is not reasonable to expect the climate to not vary for human convenience. There are examples of local devastation such as in northern Indian and Pakistan where accelerated glacial melts have resulted in major flooding , so for the locals, “the sky has fallen”
I know of some Blue Mountain sky operations that are hurting too.
 

Frankfooter

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Climate change has been going on well before recorded history and will continue to do so. Human civilization has adapted in some cases and in others not so much I& at all and it is not reasonable to expect the climate to not vary for human convenience. There are examples of local devastation such as in northern Indian and Pakistan where accelerated glacial melts have resulted in major flooding , so for the locals, “the sky has fallen”
I know of some Blue Mountain sky operations that are hurting too.
The only times in history the planet have changed as much as fast were from asteroid or super volcano.

Adapting to an AMOC shutdown would suck massively and its likely to happen in the near future.
You should check it out.

Oil$gas just wants more of this.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Climate change has been going on well before recorded history and will continue to do so. Human civilization has adapted in some cases and in others not so much I& at all and it is not reasonable to expect the climate to not vary for human convenience. There are examples of local devastation such as in northern Indian and Pakistan where accelerated glacial melts have resulted in major flooding , so for the locals, “the sky has fallen”
I know of some Blue Mountain sky operations that are hurting too
Floods and warm periods have happened for thousands of years.
If tomorrow a huge flood happened that would flood most of Holland, Scandinavia and Germany, you would probably blame that on climate change as well.
And yet this did happen, but it happened in 1717 which obviously cannot be attributed to global warming


The list of historical floods is a long one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods

As far as glaciers melting, I'm sure that has happened throughout history as well, but since record keeping was pretty much non-existent we'll never know for sure
 

niniveh

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Floods and warm periods have happened for thousands of years.
If tomorrow a huge flood happened that would flood most of Holland, Scandinavia and Germany, you would probably blame that on climate change as well.
And yet this did happen, but it happened in 1717 which obviously cannot be attributed to global warming


The list of historical floods is a long one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods

As far as glaciers melting, I'm sure that has happened throughout history as well, but since record keeping was pretty much non-existent we'll never know for sure
Unexplained Cooling of Atlantic Near the Equator

 
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JohnLarue

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Unexplained Cooling of Atlantic Near the Equator

Unexplained happens when scientists do not thoroughly understand a non-linear chaotic, dynamic climate system

following a monthslong streak of the warmest surface waters in more than 40 years.
40 years?
how long have we had accurate and semi- complete data on the surface temperature of the oceans ?
50 years maybe ?

how long have the ever changing oceans been around?
 
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