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If there was an abundance of evidence against them why did a judge give them bail? Why were they charged and immediately released the second time on such serious charges? Sure makes you wonder. I guess the concept of weaponizing the justice system against people is something you believe to be impossible and unheard of? If you don't like someone there just guilty and that's all there is to it. The court of public opinion wins again. 😯
Because accused is usually given bail unless he is determined likely to re offend when on bail or to be a flight risk.

You don't really know anything about criminal law, do you?

So nothing to do with "court of public opinion" or presuming someone is guilty without a trial. Just real life judges doing what internet lawyers like you can't really figure out without getting really, really confused.

Why don't you go to the library and get a book on criminal procedure and learn about bail hearings?.... Too difficult for you?..... Reading twitter less of an intellectual challenge?..... 😮
 

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They go against the grain and say things that go against most peoples belief system. Not to mention they are rich, successful and have a huge audience which most people envy. If you can get past their mysoginism (which I can) they actually make a lot of great points about the system and the way the world has deteriorated from a moral perspective. Maybe take a few minutes the hear what they say, then form your own opinion of them. Kudos to you for not just jumping on the hate train like most people do.
They're pimps. And they talk about being pimps.

That's what they do. That's what they talk about.
 

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If they are guilty with such overwhelming evidence as some of you claim, why has there been no trial for 2.5 years since their first arrest ?

How mentally retarded must you be to say skip the trial and put them in jail?

Candace has an interesting take on this....Never seen Andrew this pissed off
 

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The Dangerous Rise of Andrew Tate (Full Documentary)


Seems to be another Donald Trump. But less annoying. And actually a fuck of a lot smarter and more capable. World champion kick boxer. Pretty good chess player and he didn't inherit his fortune, like Trump. Oh yes. Trump is an excellent golfer, according to himself. The rapey bit is troubling. However Trump supporters seem to be ok with it.
 
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Candace's level of sexiness goes up a lot when she speaks.
She's really intense lately....Not afraid to go anywhere.

I don't know whether the Tates are innocent or guilty but would love to see the actual evidence against them.

The length of time that this is taking seems very suspicious...Even more so is the people heading the lynching mob without a fair trial. My guess is that they've always wanted to get behind a Bugatti...
 
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So wait …. Because I just want to get this straight. People (who can afford it) can drag legal proceedings on for years, but investigators can’t? Is that what I hearing? Because people like Trump can have his lawyers drag on at a snails pace. And that is ok but Tates legal proceedings need to happen in what … a month???? What is the time frame allowed here by some of the public????

Also people like Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby can have years of investigations because multiple women came forward, with the same story so we already kinda knew what was happening. Didn’t multiple women come forward here too?

And just wondering - what motive would Romania and the UK have for pursuing Tate? If there wasn’t at least some evidence against him in these charges? Like what do these countries gain from it that they would “trump up” all these charges?

And ( this is a big “and”) people realize this is NOT Canada or the US, right??? Which means laws, rules and regulations are different, right???So you can’t apply Canadian law to their laws???? That is like people either coming from the states or watching too many videos from the states and thinking that cops here in Canada can legally ID you and ask for your ID and you are legally compelled to do it. Hell, there are some Canadian who are so dumb they actual quote the constitution instead of the charter. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Because accused is usually given bail unless he is determined likely to re offend when on bail or to be a flight risk.

You don't really know anything about criminal law, do you?

So nothing to do with "court of public opinion" or presuming someone is guilty without a trial. Just real life judges doing what internet lawyers like you can't really figure out without getting really, really confused.

Why don't you go to the library and get a book on criminal procedure and learn about bail hearings?.... Too difficult for you?..... Reading twitter less of an intellectual challenge?..... 😮
The bail argument is a funny one. Didn’t Muzzo get bail? I may be wrong here but I’m pretty sure he did. We all knew he was guilty AF for killing those kids and the grandpa.

Oh and didn’t that case get dragged out for a few years too???? Because legal proceedings usually take a long time. Hell - a civil lawsuit I brought on took 5 years from beginning to end. That was just a civil case.
 

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It's a sideshow.

The Tates are small taters in the human trafficking business. They should go after the big boys.

Enjoy the next Mission Impossible film.

 
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If they are guilty with such overwhelming evidence as some of you claim, why has there been no trial for 2.5 years since their first arrest ?

How mentally retarded must you be to say skip the trial and put them in jail?
You don't understand bail, do you?

Go read a book on criminal procedure. I'm not here to give you an education.

The trial is a few months away. It's been scheduled. The rants about "They did nothing wrong. They've been imprisoned for being masculine and successful" work for rightie idiots. But the Romanian government doesn't give a fuck that the Taters are obnoxious. They have no motive for arresting them to "shut them up". The Taters have self-snitched multiple times in their interviews about how they beat and exploit the girls.
 
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The bail argument is a funny one. Didn’t Muzzo get bail? I may be wrong here but I’m pretty sure he did. We all knew he was guilty AF for killing those kids and the grandpa.

Oh and didn’t that case get dragged out for a few years too???? Because legal proceedings usually take a long time. Hell - a civil lawsuit I brought on took 5 years from beginning to end. That was just a civil case.
Because pre trial the accused is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He precisely cannot be denied bail because the case against him is overwhelming.
 
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She's really intense lately....Not afraid to go anywhere.
Candace is a shrewd businesswoman and a total sleazebag and has figured out how to play people like you and the other righties in this thread. She is moving steadily into more and more wacko Alex Jones territory to increase her viewer base. You interpret that as "audacity", but it's simply playing her market and processing ever more insane bullshit because she knows the Jordan Peterson / anti vaxx crowd loves insane conspiracy theories.

She's been closely tied to Tate for several years and there are numerous photos of her with him (with her husband). She's figured out that Tate is a successful internet manipulator with a following and - like all the other rightie sleazebags - she knows the best way to jerk and drain her audience is to forge alliances with other players doing the same thing. That way, they can create an alternate reality where idiots watch them and believe that the "Deep State" and the "Jewish globalist elite" are out to take down all "traditionally strong men".

That's the current theme with everyone you like - including Jordan Peterson, Candace Owens, the Taters. It's manufactured bullshit and relies on the audience being dumb, angry and egotistical nothings who live vicariously in the fantasy world created for them by multi millionaire frauds.
I don't know whether the Tates are innocent or guilty but would love to see the actual evidence against them.

The length of time that this is taking seems very suspicious...Even more so is the people heading the lynching mob without a fair trial. My guess is that they've always wanted to get behind a Bugatti...
Naw. We just don't like people who rape, pimp and beat 15 year olds.
 
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This is a clip of Candace with Tater #1 from a year back. They were already allies.

 

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This is Candace's anti semitic Jew-hate rant with Tater #2. She hates Jews and tells you about it.

Dig it, righties!!



American conservative commentator Candace Ownes made a number of controversial and conspiratorial claims in the Wednesday episode of her show - including that Stalin was a Jew, Freud was a Kabbalistic pedophile, and the Germans were ethnically cleansed by the Jews after World War II.

The episode featured the American-British influencer Tristan Tate, who, alongside his infamous brother Andrew Tate, has been previously charged with rape and human trafficking in both the UK and Romania, as previously reported by the Jerusalem Post.

The two discussed several topics, including gender identity, pedophilia, and the media, while also speaking on Israel and Jews, perpetuating several antisemitic conspiracy theories.


Stalinists, according to Owens, were "part of the Jewish cabal." The term cabal is often used as an antisemitic dog whistle, according to the American Jewish Committee (AJC) and numerous other Jewish organizations.

"Jews have long been accused of being part of a secret group that controls the economic and political world order," the AJC shared on its website. "he term cabal originates from the word kabbalah, the Jewish mystical interpretation of the Hebrew Bible. Its sinister use was popularized in A Child’s History of England by Charles Dickens when it was used as an acronym for five English government ministers during the reign of King Charles II. Today, the term “cabal” is used as a dog whistle for Jewish control."

"For a very long time, the media tried to convince us that Stalin and Vladimir Lenin were antisemitic and then I learned Stalin was married a Jew," Owens said.

She also claimed Stalin was Jewish, citing a "friend who understands Georgian."


Stalin was educated at an Orthodox Christian seminary, according to Simon Sebag Montefiore's biography Young Stalin.

While neither of Stalin's two wives have any recorded Jewish ancestry, Stalin's daughter married a Jewish man.

Svetlana, the daughter of Stalin, said "the fact that Kapler was a Jew was what bothered [her father] most of all" (Twenty Letters to a Friend: A Memoir). Svetlana went on to marry another Jewish man, and her father did not attend the wedding.


Stalin's son, Yakov, also married a Jewish woman named Yulia, which Svetlana (in her memoir) said "displeased [her] father, too. He never liked Jews."

In his memoirs, Nikita Khrushchev said Stalin had a "hostile attitude toward the Jewish nation."

Germans and WWII
Owens, alongside Tate, also claimed that Germans were ethnically cleansed following WWII and that "so many of the people who executed those crimes [against Germans] were then protected by the state of Israel."


She referenced Polish NKVD concentration camp commander Solomon Morel, who Israel refused to extradite despite requests from Poland.

Owens claimed all her "German friends were privately thanking [her]. Not only were their ancestors slaughtered, murdered, or ethnically cleansed and pushed out."

Israel and Jews
Candace Owens also argued that Jews defending Israel when "they're killing children' is tantamount to black people defending George Floyd just because they are black.

"You're not required to defend the stuff that Theodore Herzl and Netanyahu were up to simply because you're Jewish."


"Many Jewish people that I grew up with have fallen victim to the same trap of BLM in Black America where they teach you traumas about your history in the classroom, and then you have this like fear this like slavery is going to come back," she said, seemingly suggesting that the fear of slavery, or the fear of antisemitism, is without basis.

Tristan Tate interjected to say that every time he questioned Israel, "people start [to say] oh, the Holocaust is going to come back."

"No, I have no interest in the Holocaust coming back," he continued, "however, I think the state of Israel are war criminals, and I've said this a million times."

Tate, however, added that he personally doesn't dislike people from Israel, just their government.

On Sigmund Freud
Arguing that Sigmund Freud was a "cabalist" - a term which refers to a secret group of people, deriving from the word Kabbala - Owens accused his study of Kabbala as the reason for his 'pedophilia.'

Freud created "psychoanalysis to tell women that they're just attracted to their dads. No, they were being raped when they were 7 years old because that's what you do, uh, when you worship the Kabbala."

She also said 'pedophiles are in power' because they feel nothing when harming the masses as they were abused as children. "It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay, Obama gay, Zelensky gay, Macron gay, and married to a trans man who molested him as a child.

There is no evidence to suggest Freud had studied the Kabbala. His daughter, Anna, said he was unable to read Hebrew, and that he never studied the Talmud or the Zohar. Whilst many critics have drawn similarities between Freudian Psychoanalysis and Lurianic Kabbalah, there is nothing to suggest that Freud, a religious skeptic, had studied the latter.
 

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Because pre trial the accused is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He precisely cannot be denied bail because the case against him is overwhelming.
I guess I wasn’t clear. I know how bail works. But some people seem to think that being granted bail means you are automatically innocent of the charges.

I was saying that can’t be factually true because people like Muzzo, who we all know was guilty was granted bail. As an example. For those incapable of understanding and just wanting to use bail as proof of Tates innocence.

Hope that clears that up
 

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I guess I wasn’t clear. I know how bail works. But some people seem to think that being granted bail means you are automatically innocent of the charges.

I was saying that can’t be factually true because people like Muzzo, who we all know was guilty was granted bail. As an example. For those incapable of understanding and just wanting to use bail as proof of Tates innocence.

Hope that clears that up
The guys in this thread are suggesting that bail being denied is evidence that the Tates are being jailed without trial.

This just means that they don't understand how a bail hearing works. A bail hearing just looks at whether the accused is likely to re offend or abscond if given bail. If so, he will be denied bail. Otherwise, he will get bail.
 

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The guys in this thread are suggesting that bail being denied is evidence that the Tates are being jailed without trial.

This just means that they don't understand how a bail hearing works. A bail hearing just looks at whether the accused is likely to re offend or abscond if given bail. If so, he will be denied bail. Otherwise, he will get bail.
Ok. I don’t know why you are disagreeing with me. It is not just guys in this thread who feel that because Tate was given bail, it means he is innocent. Some of the same people in this thread who are now talking about bail v trial have said in other threads that bail automatically means innocent. My comments were to them. Not you.

But whatever …. Keep lawyering for free on the internet today. 😎
 

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Regardless of what evidence may or may not exist you seem to already consider them guilty without any trial or any of the so called evidence actually being presented.
Because we are allowed an OPINION. We are not a court of law. I based my opinion on the words directly from Tate’s mouth.

I feel they are guilty. If it turns out all they are not, I will come back and say I was wrong.

Question is , if he is found guilty, will you?
 
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