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New Covid shots are coming available

Will you be getting the new Covid vaccines?

  • I had them before and will get them again

  • I never had them and will not get them

  • I had them before but will not this time

  • I'll wait and see how Covid develops


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Vinson

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Newly updated vaccines against Covid-19 will be in pharmacies soon, just as the US is experiencing a surge of infections. But is it a good idea to get in line for a new shot pronto, or should you wait a few weeks to get optimal protection against a possible winter wave?

Experts say it depends on your health, whether you’ve recently had Covid-19, which vaccine you plan to get and when it’s convenient for you.

“It’s not a straight answer, quite frankly,” said Dr. Carlos del Rio, a distinguished professor of medicine at Emory University and expert on infectious disease.

“We’re in the midst of a of a huge wave. Many people, including yours truly, have recently had Covid,” he said.

For that reason, he’s going to hold off on getting the updated shot.

“If you had it in the last three months, I would wait. There’s no need to get a vaccine, because you have, in a way. You’ve been ‘vaccinated’ by the by the current strain,” he said.

On the other hand, if you haven’t recently had Covid, and especially if you’re 65 or older, “I would get it as soon as possible,” Del Rio said. The same is true for people with underlying health conditions that put them at higher risk for serious outcomes of a Covid infection.

Just who are the people at highest risk of hospitalization or death? Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and a member of the US Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine advisory committee, says people who are getting really sick with Covid mostly fall into four groups.

“One is people who are immune-compromised; two, people who are who have medical conditions that put them at high risk, like obesity, diabetes and chronic liver, lung or heart disease. I think three are pregnant people, and four are what I now reluctantly describe as the elderly,” whom Offit categorizes as people over 75.

Offit and other experts say that otherwise younger and healthier adults are fine to bide their time. In fact, it may be smart to do that, since the boost to frontline immunity that the vaccine provides fades within a few months. Waiting until the fall ensures that you’ll be better protected during respiratory virus season, which tends to peak in December and January.

“If you haven’t been recently infected, the new boosters matter a lot,” said Dr. Megan Ranney, dean of the Yale School of Public Health. “The current variants of Covid differ substantially from last winter’s variants, and this year’s boosters are matched to the new variants.”

She agrees that older adults and people with underlying health conditions who haven’t recently been infected should get in line for their shots now, but she’s going to delay hers a bit.

“I am planning to wait until the same time as I get my flu shot, sometime in October,” she said.

Ranney noted that the updated mRNA shots from Pfizer and Moderna will probably be available first, with Novavax’s vaccine coming in a few weeks.

“If you are nervous about mRNA for some reason – although these vaccines are very safe – the Novavax booster, which is protein-based, will soon be available, too,” she said.

Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease expert at the University of California at San Francisco, is also waiting a few weeks.

“I’m definitely not going to run out and get a shot. I’m more worried about winter than the summer,” he said.

But a golden rule of vaccination is “know thyself,” he said. If you’re somebody who is likely to get distracted and busy and forget to get a shot, any time that works for you is the best time.

“This is a general principle: If it’s convenient for people and they may not get a shot later in the year, any shot is better than no shot,” Chin-Hong said. “I think for me, I kind of like to get everything in at the same time. So I get flu and Covid at the same time. It kind of

Ideally, people wouldn’t have to try to figure out the best timing for a single shot when there are multiple waves of Covid each year, said Dr. Peter Hotez, an infectious disease expert and director of vaccine development at Texas Children’s Hospital.

“The reality is that we’ve had waves of Covid every summer for the last few years, and so I think we have to kind of do a reset or rethink about how we’re doing Covid vaccine delivery,” Hotez said.

“Given the fact that the mRNA vaccines are not very durable – not as durable as we’d like – we should be doing twice-a-year vaccination,” he said. “And then the question is, do the companies have the bandwidth to make more than one vaccine every year? … And so that’s going to be the next set of questions.”

 

squeezer

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OOOOOH BOY, Vini, I suspect you have started a shitstorm with the usual anti-vax crowd who will shortly be foaming at the mouth .

I will get a Pfizer booster. I think it's good for the pecker! 💉;)
 
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Vinson

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OOOOOH BOY, Vini, I suspect you have started a shitstorm with the usual anti-vax crowd who will shortly be foaming at the mouth .

I will get a Pfizer booster. I think it's good for the pecker! 💉;)
Those who are against can simply click that they didn't have it before and won't this time if they want. We went thru many threads about vaxes, they can go back and argue in those threads. I just wanted to know if those who've had them before will continue.
 
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The Oracle

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It's interesting how they're changing their narrative...Now it's if you've been sick lately, you probably should wait.

Whereas before it was get your vaccine, even if you have obtained natural immunity, so you can have double the protection.

Of course that was the B.S. that big pharma and the politicians were pushing at the time. Some of us saw right through that however. Most were members of the flock.

Dr. Peter Hotez was on Rogan I remember. A over weight guy who admitted he didn't exercise or pay attention to what he eats. Had metabolic syndrome written all over him. He should be getting vaccinated quarterly I would think.
 
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Valcazar

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That article is for the US, what's the Canada situation like?
 

basketcase

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It's interesting how they're changing their narrative...Now it's if you've been sick lately, you probably should wait.
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It's interesting how often people post things that run counter to past reality. 3-6 months after previous infection has been the standard since after the first round of vaccination.


But I understand how upsetting it is for some mindsets to see that science has this nasty habit of continually improving it's understanding of the world. Maybe we should have just stuck with bleeding people to balance their humors.


p.s. It's funny when people who argued against vaccines from a 'personal freedom' perspective get so upset that some people want the freedom to get a booster.
 

The Oracle

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It's interesting how often people post things that run counter to past reality. 3-6 months after previous infection has been the standard since after the first round of vaccination.
I'm always interested in how your reality differs from what actually happened...
 
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basketcase

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I'm always interested in how your reality differs from what actually happened...
I'm sure you'd be able to find all sorts of news stories from the boosters that what you claim if the government hadn't scraped them from the web o_O
 

MrPrezident

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I got a covid shot and a flu shot 2 weeks ago - one in each arm. Expect one day of fatigue, a second day about 80% energy, and the 3rd day fully back to horny ready to rock and roll status. A friend of mine had a similar outcome.

One shot in each arm was a good idea. They let me decide.
 
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lomotil

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The Ontario Government should bring back waste water testing ASAP.
 
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