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Get ready Kamala fans...this is just the beginning

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Reporting on polls is one thing.
It's obsessing over every shift (when most are noise) and just doing horse race analysis.
It is a little early for polls but early voting does start in September. The first debate Sept. 10 and I will be very curious to see the polls coming out that week.

ps....surging Kamala polls are great though to rub it in the righties faces who were throwing them out when Trump was beating Biden. ;)
 
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Valcazar

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It is a little early for polls but early voting does start in September. The first debate Sept. 10 and I will be very curious to see the polls coming out that week.

ps....surging Kamala polls are great though to rub it in the righties faces who were throwing them out when Trump was beating Biden. ;)
We'll see what the press coverage of the DNC protests does.
I expect them to be hyped up as much as the press feels comfortable doing so, since it will be the only "exciting" news story they can run.
I also expect violence, since everyone wants drama and that's the easiest situation to put an agitator in.
(You need very little to trigger the Chicago PD to retaliate, I expect.)
 

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We'll see what the press coverage of the DNC protests does.
I expect them to be hyped up as much as the press feels comfortable doing so, since it will be the only "exciting" news story they can run.
I also expect violence, since everyone wants drama and that's the easiest situation to put an agitator in.
(You need very little to trigger the Chicago PD to retaliate, I expect.)
If the 30,000 expected show up to protest it won't need to be hyped, just reported.
 

Valcazar

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If the 30,000 expected show up to protest it won't need to be hyped, just reported.
People were claiming 100,000 just two days ago.

And it will be reported no matter what. (Even the RNC protests were reported.)

But it will be hyped no matter how many show up.
It's the only "interesting" story, which would be enough on its own.
That "Harris/Walz has all the momentum" is boring is another reason to find anything to counter that narrative and the general pro-Trump desire of the legacy media is going to feed into that.

The real issue is violence.
If they can get violence, they've got a real news story.

The media is still very angry that they didn't get their thunderdome convention.
Riots in the streets is the next best thing.
You've got "echoes of '68", you've got "Dems in disarray"... it's great.
The people who want to discredit the demonstrators also have lots of incentive to paint them as violent as well.

Any conflict between the cops and the protesters will be hyped to high heaven.
(That isn't to say there isn't a real possibility of serious violence that rises organically - there absolutely is whenever you have protesters and cops in a US city.)
There are lots of incentives on various sides for people to start something and for the press to make sure it is treated as the main story.
 

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People were claiming 100,000 just two days ago.

And it will be reported no matter what. (Even the RNC protests were reported.)

But it will be hyped no matter how many show up.
It's the only "interesting" story, which would be enough on its own.
That "Harris/Walz has all the momentum" is boring is another reason to find anything to counter that narrative and the general pro-Trump desire of the legacy media is going to feed into that.

The real issue is violence.
If they can get violence, they've got a real news story.

The media is still very angry that they didn't get their thunderdome convention.
Riots in the streets is the next best thing.
You've got "echoes of '68", you've got "Dems in disarray"... it's great.
The people who want to discredit the demonstrators also have lots of incentive to paint them as violent as well.

Any conflict between the cops and the protesters will be hyped to high heaven.
(That isn't to say there isn't a real possibility of serious violence that rises organically - there absolutely is whenever you have protesters and cops in a US city.)
There are lots of incentives on various sides for people to start something and for the press to make sure it is treated as the main story.
Given this, why would Harris decide to continue to support the genocide?
It will be the one issue that could ruin her election.

Why be this?

 

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Valcazar

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What`s their goal? Do they know that with the GOP they would be fucked in the ass big time. Democrats are not that great regarding the Palestinians cause but my god the gop do not give a dog poop shit about them.
Although The Hill isn't the best source, even there it is clear that there are multiple groups with multiple approaches and demands. The article leans into the arms embargo demand.

To give you an example why you can' t be too sure of their reporting, though, look at this section.

There are, to be sure, pro-Palestinian voices who push back against the suggestion that the movement should be all that concerned about the Democratic Party, one way or another.

Noura Erakat, a Rutgers University professor and a prominent Palestinian-American activist, recently mulled an approach from Green Party nominee Jill Stein as to whether she wished to be considered as Stein’s running mate. (Stein ultimately chose another pro-Palestinian academic, Butch Ware, as her vice-presidential nominee.)
Factually true.
But Erakat has gone on the record that she offered a deal to the Green Party - she would be the VP candidate but if Harris made certain moves in the direction Erakat supported, Stein would commit to dropping out of the race. The Green party turned her down.
In other words, she is implied to be part of the "voices who push back against the suggestion that the movement should be all that concerned about the Democratic Party, one way or another" when she actually was the opposite.
 

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What`s their goal? Do they know that with the GOP they would be fucked in the ass big time. Democrats are not that great regarding the Palestinians cause but my god the gop do not give a dog poop shit about them.
Two things.

1) Regardless of what you think rump might do in the future, Biden is actively aiding the genocide in Gaza right now.
2) Now is the time to exert maximum pressure while Harris is defining policy that she thinks will get her elected.

 

Valcazar

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Two things.

1) Regardless of what you think rump might do in the future, Biden is actively aiding the genocide in Gaza right now.
2) Now is the time to exert maximum pressure while Harris is defining policy that she thinks will get her elected.

Why are you posting pictures of protests from 2018?

NOTE - Frank edited his post. (Which apparently edits the quote as well, which i didn't know.)
 
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Two things.

1) Regardless of what you think rump might do in the future, Biden is actively aiding the genocide in Gaza right now.
2) Now is the time to exert maximum pressure while Harris is defining policy that she thinks will get her elected.
Yet with such protest of Dem's convention, they annoy the only people with a bit of understanding and compassion for their cause.

The gop do not give one iota of fuck about the Palestinians as they are poor...
 
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Yet with such protest of Dem's convention, they annoy the only people with a bit of understanding and compassion for their cause.

The gop do not give one iota of fuck about the Palestinians as they are poor...
They only annoy people who back the genocide.
 

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Now the most useless house of misrepenentivives in history is investigation walls contact with the Chinese. Jim Jordan is a useless piece of shit
 
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