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Two Biological Males Allowed to Fight in Female Div. At Paris Olympics

Ghbff

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Only 2 years into her amateur career and hadn't developed the skills to harness her genetic sex advantage.

Was getting beaten by biological girls that were older and more experienced.

In 2021 Khalif was beaten by Mira Ptkonen 228-34-1 and Kelle Harrington 71-16-1. Khalif even with her massive advantages couldn't overcome the experience factor.
If you’ve ever played any competitive sports or participated in any combat sports you’ll know a woman will not beat a man at the highest levels. The strength level is too great. Even a 203rd ranked male tennis player beat the two greatest female tennis players easily. So your argument is wrong because if she really was a male she wouldn’t be losing to women as she was already training and competing at a high level.


A quarter of a century after King beat Riggs in the Battle of the Sexes, 203rd-ranked German Karsten Braasch beat Serena Williams and Venus Williams back-to-back at the 1998 Australian Open.
 

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
If you’ve ever played any competitive sports or participated in any combat sports you’ll know a woman will not beat a man at the highest levels.
Amateur boxing is not the highest level. Your tennis argument is a false equivalent.
 
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Girl 'boutta get PAID!

Think of all the billionaires who defamed her, Russian dude, IBA itself, Rowling, Paul Bros, etc.

That's not going to happen. And I hope you realized that if it goes to any court system. Imane will be mandated to undergo testing to prove her status. The IOC will not be able to protect or censor for her. And it will validate the IBA's findings seeing the IBA cannot release the full details of those finding due to privacy laws.
 
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Do we need to just set up a TERB charity fund?

If we all coughed up $10 each we could book some sessions with trans SP's and let the right wingers just get it out of their systems.
 

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That's not going to happen. And I hope you realized that if it goes to any court system. Imane will be mandated to undergo testing to prove her status. The IOC will not be able to protect or censor for her. And it will validate the IBA's findings seeing the IBA cannot release the full details of those finding due to privacy laws.
You seem to be an expert in French harassment laws.

I'm definitely not, but if it's close to Canada it doesn't matter what she actually is, only that she was discriminated against on the basis of sex.

Also: You need to re-watch the house hippo videos:

The IBA won't even say what test they administered, only that it wasn't a testosterone test AND it wasn't a genetic test. So, what is more likely: That the IBA didn't actually do any genetic testing, or that the Imane, her family, the country of Algeria (where it is illegal to be trans), the IOC, and every doctor who has treated her in her whole life are all conspiring to allow a "man" into women's olympic boxing?

Further: The IOC sets the rules for the Olympics. She met the eligibility requirements to compete in the Olympics. Any sideline judgements of the IOC's decision making is speculation, and abuse based on speculation is harassment.

Girl. Boutta. Get. Paid.
 
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You seem to be an expert in French harassment laws.
This is going beyond the France system. She is getting ready to sue Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

The IBA won't even say what test they administered, only that it wasn't a testosterone test AND it wasn't a genetic test. So, what is more likely: That the IBA didn't actually do any genetic testing, or that the Imane, her family, the country of Algeria (where it is illegal to be trans), the IOC, and every doctor who has treated her in her whole life are all conspiring to allow a "man" into women's olympic boxing?
Depending on your where you sit (Left vs Right), and where you get your news from. The info you are providing is the results of a cover-up/censorship.

Further: The IOC sets the rules for the Olympics. She met the eligibility requirements to compete in the Olympics. Any sideline judgements of the IOC's decision making is speculation, and abuse based on speculation is harassment.
The IOC used their powers to remove the IBA which was the governing body since 1940s. She only met the eligibility requirement because of that. It's called corruption. The IOC is suppose to use "proper" testing for the protected women division. Instead they are using a country's passport to make that determination.
 
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Fine, but why do you get to tell them who they are?
Why are right wingers so busy harassing women and LGBTQ, who just want to live their lives?
isn't it a bit delusional when a certain gender think they are not? for example...you get mad when I call you a terrorist sympathizer...you might feel you are not but I know for sure you are...
 
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This is going beyond the France system. She is getting ready to sue Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

Depending on your where you sit (Left vs Right), and where you get your news from. The info you are providing is the results of a cover-up/censorship.

The IOC used their powers to remove the IBA which was the governing body since 1940s. She only met the eligibility requirement because of that. It's called corruption. The IOC is suppose to use "proper" testing for the protected women division. Instead they are using a country's passport to make that determination.
This isn't a left or right issue, it's a media literacy issue.

1. The IBA allowed her to compete for years before disqualifying her in the middle of a competition, that she had already been allowed to compete at.
2. The IBA's own minutes show that it was a decision by their CEO, not their doctor, not their director of competition, or registrar, or whatever.
3. The IBA won't even name the test that they did. However, they are on record stating that it was not a testosterone test, nor was it a genetic test.
4. There is no path to change your gender in Algeria. What's on her passport is what she was born as.
5. She'd literally be in jail or dead if she was trans in rural Algeria, where she was born and grew up.
6. As an elite athlete, she has to have been under relatively intense medical care, training, etc. Lots of time naked on a table, or in her gitch in a locker room.

Either the IBA is lying, or Imane (and about 1,100 other people) is covering up being a dude.

For the first one to be true, the IBA, who has a vested financial interest AND has offered no proof of their story, has to be lying

For the second one to be true, Imane's parents, friends, doctors, trainers, the IOC, her competitors over the last 5-10 years ALL have to be in on a conspiracy that 1: Risks Imane's life, 2: Risks the IOC losing credibility, and therefore money. Imagine the lawsuits from the competitors and the member countries if the IOC is acting fraudulently. Literally nothing is gained from allowing a trans Algerian person to box.

Your first sentence kind of outs your level of knowledge: She doesn't get to sue in "world" court. She's Algerian, a crime was committed against her while in France. She gets to pick the venue (between those two) that is most advantageous to her. That's why she's retained a French lawyer. Musk and Trump are somewhat sheltered unless they want to do business in, or travel to France. The US likely has extradition to France (I'm not going to look it up).

Literally no one has offered any proof that she has XY chromosomes, or that she was born a dude. Even the intersex speculation is just that: Speculation. She "might" have such-and-such a syndrome, no one has offered proof.
 
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isn't it a bit delusional when a certain gender think they are not? for example...you get mad when I call you a terrorist sympathizer...you might feel you are not but I know for sure you are...
See?

You are delusional with your views about me but don't think you could be delusional about someone you've never met, seen in person or really know much about. For instance, you support a rapist and felon but think you back the law and rules. You back genocide and apartheid but think being against those makes you a terrorist sympathizer. Now you think you know what somebody half way around the world has in their pants and you get to decide for them what sex they are.

Delusional?
 
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See?

You are delusional with your views about me but don't think you could be delusional about someone you've never met, seen in person or really know much about. For instance, you support a rapist and felon but think you back the law and rules. You back genocide and apartheid but think being against those makes you a terrorist sympathizer. Now you think you know what somebody half way around the world has in their pants and you get to decide for them what sex they are.

Delusional?
only one of us is right...You support Hamas...you don't deny it...not once...they are considered terrorists by world leaders...I don't support Israel meddling with Gaza...I support for them to defend themselves from terrorist attacks...I don't support settlers killing palestinians...just like I don't support Hamas killing Israeli civilians...most of what I support are backed by evidence...what you support is backed by feelings...I dont usually say this a lot but fuck your feelings...
 

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So he's actually not homophobic? looks like JD will steal some votes from the Liberals...
I’m not homophobic but I sure as hell never felt the urge to dress in women’s clothing and make up 😂

But hey if you can relate to that feeling more power to you brother.
 
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