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Two Biological Males Allowed to Fight in Female Div. At Paris Olympics

The Oracle

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Will there be a test afterwards? Or just a book review? LOL
I read the whole thing despite a certain member trying to disparage my ability to read.

This stood out.

'' The test the IOC chose was the Barr Body test, which involves screening cells taken from the inside of the cheek (a buccal smear). Barr Bodies are cellular artefacts that are easily stained and visualised under a microscope, and a positive test was taken – for the purposes of sports sex testing – to indicate that a cell's sex chromosome complement is XX rather than XY. The Barr Body itself is an inactivated X chromosome; since only one X chromosome is necessary for biological function (otherwise XY human beings would be fatally compromised) the ‘spare’ chromosome folds in on itself forming a dense chromatin body. As critics, both at the time and subsequently, have pointed out, this test for chromosomal sex does not necessarily map on to physiological or phenotypic sex, which are the only kinds of sexual identity that confer a sporting advantage (and there are many confounding conditions, as people can be born with just one or three or more sex chromosomes, so that combinations like XXY or XO are quite possible). ''

There's no references here. Who are the critics?

Here's an interesting quote from the post.

" (The question of whether genders, even if they exist, should be distinguished, or whether other measures would better ensure fairness in sport is usually left to academic work in philosophy and sociology.)

Yeah let's just eliminate women's sports altogether.
 

Frankfooter

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Even with the massive advantage of having male physiology Khalif wasn't skilled enough at that time to win all of her bouts.

But now after years of high testosterone Khalif has amazed the skills to use that advantage.

The best thing for the IOC going forward is to continue to not test any women athletes for their sex or hormones.

Is this what you are advocating for?
Are you claiming she was on testosterone?
They test for steroids.
 

Frankfooter

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Tell me the difference between exogenous and endogenous testosterone.

Don't look it up now...Since you're so knowledgeable I'm sure you know.
So now you're saying she was high in testosterone but it was natural?
Why is this such a big issue to you with everything going on these days?
 

The Oracle

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So now you're saying she was high in testosterone but it was natural?
Khalif is intersex. Has female genitalia but with undescended testes. Male physiology. Male testosterone levels.
Why is this such a big issue to you with everything going on these days?
We're not allowed to have opinions? You want to silence speech?
 
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jalimon

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I saw a short interview with her father. He said, with eyes full of tears, 'My daughter is a female, I can guarantee you that. Yes, she's different. And it's because of that difference that she took up boxing. Unfortunately, she had to be able to defend herself... '
 

Valcazar

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Khalif is intersex. Has female genitalia but with undescended testes. Male physiology. Male testosterone levels.
Do we actually know this?

One of the first casualties of all this bullshit was verified and verifiable information.
Instead people repeat lots and lots of nonsense they see on social media.

This may be true, but do we actually know it from anywhere verifiable?
 

The Oracle

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Do we actually know this?

One of the first casualties of all this bullshit was verified and verifiable information.
Instead people repeat lots and lots of nonsense they see on social media.

This may be true, but do we actually know it from anywhere verifiable?
Have you been following this or are you just coming in late?

Do you still believe that men can have babies?.
 
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