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[Frankfooter]

Previous Ontario government?
Are you referring to the extinct Liberal party?
Ever ask yourself why their party was decimated and remains decimated to this day?

Review the past 10 years in Canada and look at the destruction the feds have cause. They will soon be extinct at the federal level as well. You should ask yourself why before skipping the past decade as the basis of your arguments.

The previous provincial liberals were turfed out for the gas plant scandal, which is 1/10th the scandal of the Greenbelt. 1/10th the scandal of Ontario Place, the Science Centre and only 1/50th of the scandal of trying to give away the LCBO to conservative donors.

good reminder

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812483257713254767

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811785538661417204

 

[bver_hunter]

Previous Ontario government?
Are you referring to the extinct Liberal party?
Ever ask yourself why their party was decimated and remains decimated to this day?

Review the past 10 years in Canada and look at the destruction the feds have cause. They will soon be extinct at the federal level as well. You should ask yourself why before skipping the past decade as the basis of your arguments.

Listen this is more or less a political cycle that occurs. We saw how The Federal Conservatives were really decimated after the disastrous Mulroney / Kim Campell reign. Eventually they rebounded back and won under Harper. Doug Ford has all these scandals, and no doubt sooner or later The Liberals will rebound back. He even exceeded the Ontario Debt under Wynne by 22.5 Billion. He is worse than Wynn in all respects. Yet Healthcare, Education. etc is really getting worse under his tenor, in spite of the Federal Govt. sending more and more aid. So you have to go by the more recent History of politics. Pee Pee will mess up the economy, just to kiss ass with the oligarchs!!

 

[Skoob]

The previous provincial liberals were turfed out for the gas plant scandal, which is 1/10th the scandal of the Greenbelt. 1/10th the scandal of Ontario Place, the Science Centre and only 1/50th of the scandal of trying to give away the LCBO to conservative donors.

good reminder

Just more misinformation from you.
Tell me how much money the Liberals paid to cancel those gas plants, vs how much money was paid re the green belt plan?
I'll give you the answer: Liberals spent $1 Billion; Ford spent nothing.

And no the Liberals didn't lose over the gas plants. Those were cancelled in 2011. They were re-elected in 2014. So you're wrong there.

Here's a good article to explain why they lost to Ford so you don't keep making up an alternate history with alternate facts...
https://macleans.ca/facebook-instan...on-heres-what-happened-and-what-happens-next/

 

[Skoob]

Listen this is more or less a political cycle that occurs. We saw how The Federal Conservatives were really decimated after the disastrous Mulroney / Kim Campell reign. Eventually they rebounded back and won under Harper. Doug Ford has all these scandals, and no doubt sooner or later The Liberals will rebound back. He even exceeded the Ontario Debt under Wynne by 22.5 Billion. He is worse than Wynn in all respects. Yet Healthcare, Education. etc is really getting worse under his tenor, in spite of the Federal Govt. sending more and more aid. So you have to go by the more recent History of politics. Pee Pee will mess up the economy, just to kiss ass with the oligarchs!!

Wow...you can't help yourself going back decades in every argument you make!

So when Trudeau and Wynne fuck up is due to the "political cycle"?

But you are already predicting (and accepting) a Poilievre victory and government even before it's actually happened? And you're already predicting what he will do?

Tell you what...let's give Poilievre a decade+ in office and see what he does and during that time don't criticize anything because according to you, when he eventually loses an election we can all agree it's just due to a "political cycle".

Fair?

 

[bver_hunter]

Wow...you can't help yourself going back decades in every argument you make!

So when Trudeau and Wynne fuck up is due to the "political cycle"?

But you are already predicting (and accepting) a Poilievre victory and government even before it's actually happened? And you're already predicting what he will do?

Tell you what...let's give Poilievre a decade+ in office and see what he does and during that time don't criticize anything because according to you, when he eventually loses an election we can all agree it's just due to a "political cycle".

Fair?

To you they fucked up, although as I posted that Doug Ford is worse with how he has ballooned the debt. He has got all his scandals that one day will be fully investigated. Sooner or later he will be voted out of office. The polls are predicting a Pee Pee victory, and not me. I still think that things can change around in a year. Still The Liberals have done a lot more more the Canadians, that they do not get the credit for doing so. They got re-elected for their handling of the Pandemic. Pee Pee was part of Harper's regime that kept Canada in a Recession, that Trudeau had to inherit. Still Canada's Rating is Triple A, as it is a comparison to other economies in the world. How can that be a "Fuck Up"?

 

[Frankfooter]

Just more misinformation from you.
Tell me how much money the Liberals paid to cancel those gas plants, vs how much money was paid re the green belt plan?
I'll give you the answer: Liberals spent $1 Billion; Ford spent nothing.

And no the Liberals didn't lose over the gas plants. Those were cancelled in 2011. They were re-elected in 2014. So you're wrong there.

Here's a good article to explain why they lost to Ford so you don't keep making up an alternate history with alternate facts...
https://macleans.ca/facebook-instan...on-heres-what-happened-and-what-happens-next/

The liberals cancelled a contract that cost the government $1 billion.
DoFo's cancellation of the Beer store deal will cost Ontario that much, just to get beer in stores before an election.
DoFo's Greenbelt scandal would have rezoned prime farmland and handed $8 billion in profit to developer donors without building a single house.
DoFo's Ontario Place scandal is costing Ontario $650 million to build a parking garage as part of a secret, 95 year lease to a foreign company connected to conservative insiders.
DoFo's Science Centre scandal will cost Ontario $400 million more than repairing the Science Centre just so DoFo can try to give that land to developer donors.
DoFo's LCBO scandal could cost Ontario $2.5 billion in lost revenue to hand over the profit to conservative billionaire donors.

DoFo's scandals are all much worse as they are all corrupt acts that will line the pockets of conservative donors.

 

[Skoob]

To you they fucked up, although as I posted that Doug Ford is worse with how he has ballooned the debt. He has got all his scandals that one day will be fully investigated. Sooner or later he will be voted out of office. The polls are predicting a Pee Pee victory, and not me. I still think that things can change around in a year. Still The Liberals have done a lot more more the Canadians, that they do not get the credit for doing so. They got re-elected for their handling of the Pandemic. Pee Pee was part of Harper's regime that kept Canada in a Recession, that Trudeau had to inherit. Still Canada's Rating is Triple A, as it is a comparison to other economies in the world. How can that be a "Fuck Up"?

DoFo won two consecutive majority governments and still had a pandemic to deal with.
He also has the good sense to reverse decisions. Unlike Trudeau and the Libs who just forge ahead regardless (except when they're in danger of losing ridings...then they do interesting things like reduce the carbon tax for specific areas).

That's why DoFo will win another majority government. People are tired of the Liberal bullshit that has made everything unaffordable due to reckless spending and money printing.

 

[Skoob]

The liberals cancelled a contract that cost the government $1 billion.
DoFo's cancellation of the Beer store deal will cost Ontario that much, just to get beer in stores before an election.
DoFo's Greenbelt scandal would have rezoned prime farmland and handed $8 billion in profit to developer donors without building a single house.
DoFo's Ontario Place scandal is costing Ontario $650 million to build a parking garage as part of a secret, 95 year lease to a foreign company connected to conservative insiders.
DoFo's Science Centre scandal will cost Ontario $400 million more than repairing the Science Centre just so DoFo can try to give that land to developer donors.
DoFo's LCBO scandal could cost Ontario $2.5 billion in lost revenue to hand over the profit to conservative billionaire donors.

DoFo's scandals are all much worse as they are all corrupt acts that will line the pockets of conservative donors.

"Would have"..."could" ...are not scandals. When no money is actually accounted for being spent or exchanged it's not a scandal.

Liberals blew $1 Billion just to save seats so they could get re-elected. That's actual money that was paid out. That's a scandal.
Paying $60 million+ for an app that should have cost $80k and not really knowing where the money went? That was money actually paid out. That's a scandal.

And peddling misinformation about why the Liberal party in Ontario was obliterated doesn't help your case for understanding history.

 

[Frankfooter]

DoFo won two consecutive majority governments and still had a pandemic to deal with.
He also has the good sense to reverse decisions. Unlike Trudeau and the Libs who just forge ahead regardless (except when they're in danger of losing ridings...then they do interesting things like reduce the carbon tax for specific areas).

That's why DoFo will win another majority government. People are tired of the Liberal bullshit that has made everything unaffordable due to reckless spending and money printing.

Trudeau won more majorities and also had to deal with a pandemic.
The libs gave us CERB, DoFo gave us the longest and most ineffectual lockdown in North America.

The libs gave us legal pot.
DoFo is spending $2.5 billion at the LCBO and $1 billion at the Beer store just to get booze in corner stores.

The libs gave us $10 day daycare.
DoFo gave us rent increases by cutting rent control.

The libs gave us free dental and soon free insulin.
DoFo drove nurses out, drove out family doctors, shut down ER's and bankrupted hospitals.

The libs are working with Chow on housing.
DoFo is giving away public assets to donors for cash.

The libs gave us the lowest debt per capita in the G7.
DoFo gave us the most massive debt and deficit in Ontario history.

The libs are working towards transition with the carbon tax.
DoFo spent $200 million cancelling renewable contracts that he is now trying to redo.

 

[Skoob]

Trudeau won more majorities and also had to deal with a pandemic.
The libs gave us CERB, DoFo gave us the longest and most ineffectual lockdown in North America.

The libs gave us legal pot.
DoFo is spending $2.5 billion at the LCBO and $1 billion at the Beer store just to get booze in corner stores.

The libs gave us $10 day daycare.
DoFo gave us rent increases by cutting rent control.

The libs gave us free dental and soon free insulin.
DoFo drove nurses out, drove out family doctors, shut down ER's and bankrupted hospitals.

The libs are working with Chow on housing.
DoFo is giving away public assets to donors for cash.

The libs gave us the lowest debt per capita in the G7.
DoFo gave us the most massive debt and deficit in Ontario history.

The libs are working towards transition with the carbon tax.
DoFo spent $200 million cancelling renewable contracts that he is now trying to redo.

The Libs have been bribing us with our own money and printing more of it to make things unaffordable for everyone .."free" is not actually "free" (except to brainwashed Communists)

DoFo will win another majority government. The Libs will cease to exist federally, just like they cease to exist provincially.

Conservative feds. Conservative province. Conservative America.

You're in for a rough time...save your energy. You're going to be spewing vile for several years to come.

 

[Frankfooter]

The Libs have been bribing us with our own money and printing more of it to make things unaffordable for everyone .."free" is not actually "free" (except to brainwashed Communists)

Yes, 'free is not free'.

We pay taxes and we should get services in return.
DoFo is the one raising the debt and deficit by giving tax breaks to the rich and corporations.
The conservative plan is printing money to give the rich breaks.

The liberal plan taxes the rich, like the capital gains, to pay for services that everyone wants and uses.

 

[Skoob]

Yes, 'free is not free'.

We pay taxes and we should get services in return.
DoFo is the one raising the debt and deficit by giving tax breaks to the rich and corporations.
The conservative plan is printing money to give the rich breaks.

The liberal plan taxes the rich, like the capital gains, to pay for services that everyone wants and uses.

We pay taxes and should get services for them with the money we already pay...which is too much already.
Liberals just keep piling on in an effort to buy votes.

The Liberal plan punishes everyone...not just the rich.

 

[richaceg]

If you had kids you think you wouldn't be backing pedophiles as much.
The xitter has been super entertaining the last couple of days.
Elon killed 100,000 TrumpPedoFiles posts, now people dug a bit deeper and exposed Elon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811441804333457890

You're a gas light champion...except non of your claims are true... trump is a convicted felon not a pedo....there's war in Gaza no genocide...hamas are terrorists not freedom fighters.... you're a hoax machine....

 

[bver_hunter]

DoFo won two consecutive majority governments and still had a pandemic to deal with.
He also has the good sense to reverse decisions. Unlike Trudeau and the Libs who just forge ahead regardless (except when they're in danger of losing ridings...then they do interesting things like reduce the carbon tax for specific areas).

That's why DoFo will win another majority government. People are tired of the Liberal bullshit that has made everything unaffordable due to reckless spending and money printing.

DoFo only reverses decisions when he is found out. There needs to be full investigations into his wasteful spendings that only benefited his cronies!!
Once again he has ballooned the debt in Ontario and it seems to be hunky dory with the righties when a Conservative government goes ahead with it.
Remember that Kathleen Wynn was re-elected as well with a majority. But you seem to think that spending in a Pandemic is okay with Ford but not The Federal Government!!
Now we see Healthcare, Education going into the doldrums under Ford. Sooner or later the electorate will get rid of him. Conservative policies are worse for the average Canadians, that will only benefit the wealthy. We have seen that in the UK as well!!

 

[Skoob]

DoFo only reverses decisions when he is found out. There needs to be full investigations into his wasteful spendings that only benefited his cronies!!
Once again he has ballooned the debt in Ontario and it seems to be hunky dory with the righties when a Conservative government goes ahead with it.
Remember that Kathleen Wynn was re-elected as well with a majority. But you seem to think that spending in a Pandemic is okay with Ford but not The Federal Government!!
Now we see Healthcare, Education going into the doldrums under Ford. Sooner or later the electorate will get rid of him. Conservative policies are worse for the average Canadians, that will only benefit the wealthy. We have seen that in the UK as well!!

Typical leftist talking points that are based on nothing except cognitive bias and myths.

Net debt-to-GDP...look at what the Liberals did from when they took over in 2003 through to when they were booted out in 2018...then look at where the province is now which is basically the same or better considering things have been recovering from the pandemic and the Conservatives inherited a world record debt that the Liberals created!



https://www.fao-on.org/en/Blog/Publications/Ont_Prov_Debt




https://economics.td.com/ontario-budget



Now look at the forecast as of March 2024:

Ontario, one of the world's largest sub-sovereign borrowers, forecast that its net debt-to-GDP ratio would rise to 39.2% in the coming fiscal year after falling to an estimated 38% in 2023-24, the lowest level since 2011-12.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...et-deficit-tripling-economy-slows-2024-03-26/


It was 39.6% in 2015/2016!

 

[bver_hunter]

Typical leftist talking points that are based on nothing except cognitive bias and myths.

Net debt-to-GDP...look at what the Liberals did from when they took over in 2003 through to when they were booted out in 2018...then look at where the province is now which is basically the same or better considering things have been recovering from the pandemic and the Conservatives inherited a world record debt that the Liberals created!

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https://www.fao-on.org/en/Blog/Publications/Ont_Prov_Debt


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https://economics.td.com/ontario-budget



Now look at the forecast as of March 2024:

Ontario, one of the world's largest sub-sovereign borrowers, forecast that its net debt-to-GDP ratio would rise to 39.2% in the coming fiscal year after falling to an estimated 38% in 2023-24, the lowest level since 2011-12.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...et-deficit-tripling-economy-slows-2024-03-26/


It was 39.6% in 2015/2016!

Take a look at the Net debt that is still on the rise:

Then the actual right wing media's take on Doug Ford:

Ontario government’s fiscal history drenched in red ink

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/ontario-governments-fiscal-history-drenched-in-red-ink

Yes, 2018 was when Ford came into power. Now look at the Net debt!!

Canada's Ontario province sees budget deficit tripling as economy slows

Canada's Ontario province sees budget deficit tripling as economy slows

The Canadian province of Ontario on Tuesday forecast its budget deficit would more than triple in the upcoming fiscal year as economic growth stalls and it spends more on housing and roads, as well as measures to ease the cost of living. Ontario, Canada's most populous province and home to...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

 

[Frankfooter]

We pay taxes and should get services for them

DoFo is screwing with that by defunding health care and education.
He's giving away Ontario assets to the rich.

 

[Frankfooter]

Typical leftist talking points that are based on nothing except cognitive bias and myths.

Net debt-to-GDP...look at what the Liberals did from when they took over in 2003 through to when they were booted out in 2018...then look at where the province is now which is basically the same or better considering things have been recovering from the pandemic and the Conservatives inherited a world record debt that the Liberals created!

View attachment 342832

https://www.fao-on.org/en/Blog/Publications/Ont_Prov_Debt


View attachment 342831

https://economics.td.com/ontario-budget



Now look at the forecast as of March 2024:

Ontario, one of the world's largest sub-sovereign borrowers, forecast that its net debt-to-GDP ratio would rise to 39.2% in the coming fiscal year after falling to an estimated 38% in 2023-24, the lowest level since 2011-12.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...et-deficit-tripling-economy-slows-2024-03-26/


It was 39.6% in 2015/2016!

It makes you look very dishonest and not at all bright to post charts that stop in 2015.

 

[Skoob]

Take a look at the Net debt that is still on the rise:

Then the actual right wing media's take on Doug Ford:

Ontario government’s fiscal history drenched in red ink

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/ontario-governments-fiscal-history-drenched-in-red-ink

Yes, 2018 was when Ford came into power. Now look at the Net debt!!

Canada's Ontario province sees budget deficit tripling as economy slows

Canada's Ontario province sees budget deficit tripling as economy slows

The Canadian province of Ontario on Tuesday forecast its budget deficit would more than triple in the upcoming fiscal year as economic growth stalls and it spends more on housing and roads, as well as measures to ease the cost of living. Ontario, Canada's most populous province and home to...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

Your chart does a fine job of showing what the Liberals did to the province from when they took power in 2003...do you even notice the steep incline of the debt?

In other words, he inherited a 15 year mess, and you expect that mess to just magically disappear faster than it took to create it.

 

[Frankfooter]

Your chart does a fine job of showing what the Liberals did to the province from when they took power in 2003...do you even notice the steep incline of the debt?

In other words, he inherited a 15 year mess, and you expect that mess to just magically disappear faster than it took to create it.

DoFo is adding $1 billion for beer sales in corner stores, adding $2.5 for liquor in corner stores and adding $650 million for a parking lot for a foreign company on park land.

Biggest increases in the debt in Ontario history.
You are backing a corrupt failure.