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Minutes after President Biden walked off the debate stage, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was among the first names floated by pundits as a potential emergency replacement.

Why it matters: Her position on unofficial shortlists underscores the governor's standing as a rising national figure in the Democratic Party.

It also boosts her name recognition with out-of-state voters and is an indicator of her staying power beyond this election cycle, her supporters argue.
Driving the news: Concerns over whether Biden can do the job for four more years ramped up Thursday following the first presidential debate, where his "awful" performance left Democrats "in a state of shock," Axios' Andrew Solender reported.

Reality check: A Biden adviser told CNN on Friday that not only would the president not drop out, but he also intends to participate in a second debate this fall.

State of play: Whitmer's stardom has grown in the national Democratic Party since she helped Michigan flip the Legislature, which scored the first Democratic trifecta in a generation.

The term-limited governor hasn't ruled out a future presidential run, but has firmly supported Biden's re-election campaign as its co-chair.
Between the lines: Part of her appeal lies in her experience working across the aisle while championing Democratic causes like gun safety measures, abortion access and civil rights protections for LGBTQ+ residents.

The governor launched a national political group last year in an effort to boost her public profile.
She also wrote a book — a tradition for presidential hopefuls — titled "True Gretch," releasing July 9.
The other side: Locally, she's been vilified by opponents on the election trail and Republican rivals in the state Legislature.

"If pathological liar Joe Biden fails tonight this is the next pathological liar they'll replace him with," Republican gubernatorial candidate Tudor Dixon said of Whitmer on social media.
Yes, but: Michigan swing voters in an Axios focus group had mostly positive things to say about Whitmer when asked last summer about a potential presidential bid — even those who opposed her.

A January Detroit News poll of 600 likely Michigan voters found Whitmer outperforming Biden in matchups against former President Trump.

 

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Won't happen. It will be Newsom with Whitmer as the V-P nom.

America will not vote for a female president. There is so much misogyny in the USA that any female candidate - i.e. Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton - is immediately ridiculed and vilified.
 

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I was reading that one of Dem king makers is supporting Kamala, I think its a terrible choice, a disaster. Like having Williamson a new ager that during one of her conferences asked the whites in the room to apologize to the blacks in the room for the past treatment. :rolleyes:
 

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Won't happen. It will be Newsom with Whitmer as the V-P nom.

America will not vote for a female president. There is so much misogyny in the USA that any female candidate - i.e. Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton - is immediately ridiculed and vilified.
If it's not Kamala they lose the black women vote. It would be racist to pass up the black female VP for a white guy;)
 

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If it's not Kamala they lose the black women vote. It would be racist to pass up the black female VP for a white guy;)
Offer her a cabinet position or VP again?
 

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Offer her a cabinet position or VP again?
I doubt she would take it. She is the supposed successor. She might take a supreme court seat if offered but if its anyone other than her, Especially someone white, The black caucus and black media will call it racist. Its not because she's not popular or really hasn't done anything to instill confidence that she could do the job but that doesn't matter because it will be viewed as racist by the DEI party.
 

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Won't happen. It will be Newsom with Whitmer as the V-P nom.

America will not vote for a female president. There is so much misogyny in the USA that any female candidate - i.e. Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton - is immediately ridiculed and vilified.
What a pile of horse manure. For one more women vote than men. In 2020 it was 52% to 48%. In 2016 it was 53%-47%. Secondly, in my lifetime I have not seen a politician more ridiculed and vilified than Donald Trump. And its not even close.
 
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I think the best thing the Un Democrats can do is get both Biden and Harris off the ticket. They are extremely unpopular and historically incompetent. Beavis & Butthead could do a better job running the country than these two morons.
I think that they should look to more moderate members like Senator Amy Klobuchar and Andy Beshear the Governor of Kentucky.
 
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Offer her a cabinet position or VP again?
I guess the chickens have come home to roost. It all seemed so warm & fuzzy having Harris as Biden's VP showing how diverse & inclusive the Dems apparently were...and unfortunately it appears that faced with the reality of Biden potentially stepping down, Harris is not considered up to the task.
Did no one think about that? ie what if Biden had died...she would be POTUS.
Why not stick with her then as the preferred candidate if they trusted & believed in her to take over in an emergency?
 
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I guess the chickens have come home to roost. It all seemed so warm & fuzzy having Harris as Biden's VP showing how diverse & inclusive the Dems apparently were...and unfortunately it appears that faced with the reality of Biden potentially stepping down, Harris is not considered up to the task.
Did no one think about that? ie what if Biden had died...she would be POTUS.
Why not stick with her then as the preferred candidate if they trusted & believed in her to take over in an emergency?
Better Black than Orange, Skoob.
 

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…Secondly, in my lifetime I have not seen a politician more ridiculed and vilified than Donald Trump. And its not even close.
You are making Mandrill’s point, though. Trump had indeed been ridiculed and vilified more than any other President…and yet he still won the White House in 2016, came close in 2020, and may well win again.

No woman could be subjected to that much hate/vitriol and be elected POTUS. Our misogynist society would not tolerate the obnoxiously aggressive conduct that is synonymous with Trump’s brand/persona from a woman. When Trump does it, people see it as a sign of strength and virility; if Hilary or Kamala were to even approach that kind of belligerent conduct they would be immediately labelled as “unlikeable.”
 
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I guess the chickens have come home to roost. It all seemed so warm & fuzzy having Harris as Biden's VP showing how diverse & inclusive the Dems apparently were...and unfortunately it appears that faced with the reality of Biden potentially stepping down, Harris is not considered up to the task.
Did no one think about that? ie what if Biden had died...she would be POTUS.
Why not stick with her then as the preferred candidate if they trusted & believed in her to take over in an emergency?
I have never understood what exactly Kamala did or didn’t do that have led the public to view her so poorly…other than being a black woman, of course.
 

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Newsome is from California and I believe she is too so she cannot be VP if Newsome is running if I'm not mistaken.
Michelle Obama is polling highest according to CNN.
I think Biden will have to pull out and likely in a week or so.
Even his excuses are all over the place now, it was cold, he was jet lagged, he prepared too much....
 

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