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University of Toronto delivers trespass notice to pro-Palestinian encampment

Klatuu

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This is actually a huge victory for the pro Palestinian movement, ruling that statements such as “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” are not hate speech.
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Let them go rally in some park or stadium so people that are struggling can go or come back from work.

U of T encampment protesters take down some tents, plan rally ahead of deadline


Pro-Palestinian demonstrators at the University of Toronto, facing court orders to dismantle their weeks-old encampment, started to take down tents and tarps on Wednesday morning, though vowed to continue their campus activism.
Despite moves to disassemble the camp, demonstrators said they still planned to hold a rally on Wednesday afternoon hours ahead of a deadline to leave the area known as King’s College Circle.

“We know that police are going to be here, and we will sort of have to see what happens,” said Erin Mackey, an encampment spokesperson.
An Ontario judge issued an injunction against the encampment Tuesday, authorizing police to step in if demonstrators don’t leave the site by 6 p.m. Wednesday. Police have said they would enforce the order but would not disclose any operational plans.

Toronto police officers were seen posting the court order on the encampment fence Wednesday morning, as Palestinian flags waved overhead. An Irish rebel song echoed from the encampment entrance as demonstrators wheeled out supplies in wagons and yellowed patches of grass dotted the lawn where tents once stood.

In a statement issued around 11 a.m., demonstrators said they had not made a final decision “about the 6 p.m. deadline.”

“All of the movement at the encampment is being done in preparation for potential police escalation, given what we’ve seen police do to students at other universities across Canada and North America,” the statement read.

The Canadian Union of Public Employees issued a call to rally at King’s College Circle at 3:30 p.m. in support of the protesters.
Ontario Superior Court Justice Markus Koehnen’s decision, issued Tuesday, says while there is no evidence the encampment participants have been violent or antisemitic, the demonstration has taken away the university’s ability to control what happens in King’s College Circle.

Koehnen says property owners generally decide what happens on their property, and if protesters can take that power for themselves, there is nothing to stop a stronger group from coming and taking over the space from the current protesters, leading to chaos.

Ontario’s Minister of Colleges and Universities said post-secondary institutions have an “obligation to protect the safety and well-being of students, faculty and staff so that students can continue to learn without interruption.”

“Like any court order, this order should be followed to ensure that happens,” read the statement from Minister Jill Dunlop.

The protesters set up camp on May 2 and previously said they would stay put until the school agrees to their demands, which include disclosing and divesting from investments in companies profiting from Israel’s offensive in Gaza.
The court ruling said the university has procedures in place to consider divestment requests and has offered the protesters an expedited process.

Protesters, however, have said they have no confidence in the process, since it rests on recommendations to the university president that he can either follow or ignore. They note Meric Gertlerdeclined to follow a 2016 recommendation to divest from fossil fuels, only to initiate his own process years later that may result in divestment by 2030 — 16 years after the request was made.
“The protesters submit that Gaza does not have 16 years to wait,” Tuesday’s court decision read.

The university initially sought an urgent injunction against the encampment in late May because it’s near Convocation Hall, where graduation ceremonies were scheduled to take place over several weeks in June. The court ended up hearing arguments over two days last month, after most ceremonies were almost done.
No major disruptions were reported.

The judge issued his decision Tuesday, which ruled that, “as passionate as the protesters may be,” they had no unilateral right to decide how the campus green space can be used by their exercise of “force, occupation or intimidation.”

“If the property truly is a quasi-public space, why should one ad hoc group of people get to determine who can use that space for a period of over 50 days?
“As passionate as we may be about alleviating human suffering around the world, depriving our fellow residents of green space accomplishes nothing.” the judge wrote.

The ruling, however, dismissed allegations that the encampment demonstrators had trafficked in antisemitic hate speech and slogans, accusations routinely directed at the group by pro-Israeli organizations who had sought to undermine the protest.

While the judge noted some speech of the “exterior of the encampment” rose to the level of hate speech, none of the encampment demonstrators had been linked to those statements and they had, in fact, taken steps to take down offensive messages near the camp when they appeared.

The judge, on the other hand, cited several examples of the demonstrators themselves being subject to hateful commentary.

He concluded that the encampment was peaceful and cited testimony from demonstrators who described it as an inclusive, caring community where Muslim and Jewish people had co-led Shabbat dinners and shared in prayer.

Protesters, the decision notes, argued criticism of Israel had been conflated with antisemitism, fuelling a moral panic around the issue that had crossed into a new form of repression against those who support Palestinian rights.
“The respondents’ fears about the risk of a new form of McCarthyism are not without foundation,” the judge wrote, referring to the political repression campaign in the 1940s and 1950s to spread fear about alleged communist influence in the U.S. government.

Protesters argued an injunction would be a major infringement on their free expression rights, and underscored universities as a key forum for protest and debate. The judge, however, found there was no right to occupy property that does not belong to them, “no matter how much more effective their protest would be if they were able to do so.”

The university, the judge wrote, has said protesters continue to have the right to protest anywhere on campus, but just can’t set up camps and block entry to university property.

 
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" The Canadian Union of Public Employees issued a call to rally at King’s College Circle at 3:30 p.m. in support of the protesters. "

That's funny. I guess these public union members aren't too busy working after all. Or too overworked and won't show? Someone should take attendance and verify who is and isn't on the clock.

Mind you the union will most likely just send paid protesters like they do when they go on strike.
 

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Here's an example of why public sector unions (and their well-paid leaders) are lunatics...these are the same people that help extort more and more money from taxpayers...maybe they should sign up to become Hamas' human shields considering there are probably a lot of vacant positions these days...insanity at its finest!


‘We will be your human shields’: Why unions are showing up in force to support the U of T pro-Palestinian protest encampment

“Our job is to put our bodies in between you and whatever the administration brings to you,” JP Hornick, president, Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union (OPSEU), told a rally by the protesters and their allies.
“If the police come, we will be your human shields. We will be your line of defence. And I promise you that we will be here for as long as it takes to make sure that you are safe.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/we...cle_562a3da0-1c62-11ef-91f5-2f4615a0758e.html
 

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Here's an example of why public sector unions (and their well-paid leaders) are lunatics...these are the same people that help extort more and more money from taxpayers...maybe they should sign up to become Hamas' human shields considering there are probably a lot of vacant positions these days...insanity at its finest!


‘We will be your human shields’: Why unions are showing up in force to support the U of T pro-Palestinian protest encampment

“Our job is to put our bodies in between you and whatever the administration brings to you,” JP Hornick, president, Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union (OPSEU), told a rally by the protesters and their allies.
“If the police come, we will be your human shields. We will be your line of defence. And I promise you that we will be here for as long as it takes to make sure that you are safe.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/we...cle_562a3da0-1c62-11ef-91f5-2f4615a0758e.html
Stop crying wolf man. It seems most of them left as they should and if not, the cops can do their job and plow them away.

 
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Klatuu

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Here's an example of why public sector unions (and their well-paid leaders) are lunatics...these are the same people that help extort more and more money from taxpayers...maybe they should sign up to become Hamas' human shields considering there are probably a lot of vacant positions these days...insanity at its finest!


‘We will be your human shields’: Why unions are showing up in force to support the U of T pro-Palestinian protest encampment


“Our job is to put our bodies in between you and whatever the administration brings to you,” JP Hornick, president, Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union (OPSEU), told a rally by the protesters and their allies.
“If the police come, we will be your human shields. We will be your line of defence. And I promise you that we will be here for as long as it takes to make sure that you are safe.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/we...cle_562a3da0-1c62-11ef-91f5-2f4615a0758e.html
That article is from May. Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
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That article is from May. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Don't be silly, they have been doing this right up to and including today. That article was useful to explain it all.

That's your argument? OMFG
 

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Stop crying wolf man. It seems most of them left as they should and if not, the cops can do their job and plow them away.

It would be crying wolf if I had said "they are going to do it...", but they actually did it.

See the difference?

Is that your only argument?
 
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" The Canadian Union of Public Employees issued a call to rally at King’s College Circle at 3:30 p.m. in support of the protesters. "

That's funny. I guess these public union members aren't too busy working after all. Or too overworked and won't show? Someone should take attendance and verify who is and isn't on the clock.

Mind you the union will most likely just send paid protesters like they do when they go on strike.
Most people actually don't support genocide, skoob.
Political action to stop genocide is the moral thing to do.
 
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Yes they're Hamas 😂 Or they know what they're doing is wrong and hiding, cowards. I think the one on the left is Trans.
You know you lost the argument when you declare everyone is Hamas.
45% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide, you just called them all Hamas too.
 
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