Why do providers not want to visit kitchener and cambridge?

xs1

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No offense but most of the leolist ads here kinda suck. They look like regular civilian girls. Providers from the GTA frequently travel to london and windsor. But purposely avoid kitchener or cambridge. Its a joke.
 
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Based on items on this previous topic;
  • income demographics - except for Waterloo, income is a little less in this area
  • Just a guess, no data, smaller population so assuming, say, 1% of men see escorts, the entire quite-large geographic area is similar to a small geographic London.
  • hesitancy to verify/photos/id etc..
  • I've been hearing more & more about problematic 'foreign students' so some don't want the hassle?
I disagree about some of the LL ads. I don't bother looking at Toronto LLs but the ones I see for this area seem to be nice. Besides, it's never really about the photos is it?

Leigh Pro from Hamilton tours to Cambridge occasionally. Make it worth her while to come here and message her.
 
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I think there is something about proximity as well. I assume a lot of guys are willing to jump in their car and drive ~1 hour to Mississauga / Hamilton for "better" providers than people willing to drive 2 hours from London.

Agree it's a shame though - I'm lazy and don't love travelling 😅

It's the same reason we don't have an Ikea here, big concerts skip KW, etc
 
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No offense but most of the leolist ads here kinda suck. They look like regular civilian girls. Providers from the GTA frequently travel to london and windsor. But purposely avoid kitchener or cambridge. Its a joke.
Because Valued Supporter lives in the region is why!
 

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Ok at least >>I'm<< doing my part to encourage SPs to come to the KWC area. No idea what you guys are doing other than pulling your pud to TERB advertisements.
..and yes, I'm trying to anonymize it as much as possible.


Sorry @GJ0972, I've already told her about you...she's not really into angry old men.

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anywhere i want;)
As a provider who frequents the area I thought I would chime in here.

Some info I've got from other providers is that there are a lot of clients who negotiate, no show and have bad hygiene. TBH, I think every provider has different experiences in different cities and sometimes it is just not worth it for them to tour there.
 

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As a provider who frequents the area I thought I would chime in here.

Some info I've got from other providers is that there are a lot of clients who negotiate, no show and have bad hygiene. TBH, I think every provider has different experiences in different cities and sometimes it is just not worth it for them to tour there.
Thanks for chiming in! I agree you must and other providers see many clients and wish you didn't agree to see them for a myriad of reasons! Kudos to you for making it work 95% of the time.
I personally never negotiate. If I think the price is too high for the suggested services rendered, i will tactfully back out at the time of booking
Only once did I not shower before seeing a provider, it was right after golf. I did ask if I could shower first via text and that was confirmed. I wish you continued success @sweetiepiexo
 
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Reasons ... It's a double edged sword ...
1) many guys are cheap and won't pay for decent service
2) many providers want more money for less service
Two seemly opposite things can both be true.
 

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As a provider who frequents the area I thought I would chime in here.

Some info I've got from other providers is that there are a lot of clients who negotiate, no show and have bad hygiene. TBH, I think every provider has different experiences in different cities and sometimes it is just not worth it for them to tour there.
I just go to other cities because there is so little out here. And I don’t know how to sift because their are very few reviews.
 

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My opinion of the KW scene :
If you make a half decent living you have a house, And more likely to be married.
In Toronto you have a small condo and are single, with no scrutiny of your finances.
Smaller talent base and more difficult to live a life on the dark side in KW
KW and most towns outside of the GTA have women that like to have a good time at
sports bar type places. Where drinking is enjoyed and encouraged.
The club scene in Toronto is late night, high fashion and ear splitting music playing
It is easier to get laid in small town Ontario if you are not a buff, Benz driving player
 
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futurelegend

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I think providers don’t come out this way because the expectation here is cheaper prices. Toronto, the norm has become $200-250/hh and $300-350 for the hour. The “deals” are the $160/250 girls (except for the shady LL girls), so why travel to a market where guys bitch when anyone charges more than 140-160/hh? Not a lot of incentive to come out this way.
 
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Fuck I'm dumb, I've been convinced $400/H is standard :ROFLMAO:. We're NOT going to talk about what the standard SB rate seems to be. Yet another reason for GJ to hate my guts. 🥳
 

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I think providers don’t come out this way because the expectation here is cheaper prices. Toronto, the norm has become $200-250/hh and $300-350 for the hour. The “deals” are the $160/250 girls (except for the shady LL girls), so why travel to a market where guys bitch when anyone charges more than 140-160/hh? Not a lot of incentive to come out this way.
I wouldn’t go see a provider that charged under $250/h…
 
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futurelegend

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Fuck I'm dumb, I've been convinced $400/H is standard :ROFLMAO:. We're NOT going to talk about what the standard SB rate seems to be. Yet another reason for GJ to hate my guts. 🥳
You’re the SOLE reason that prices have been increasing.

Grocery prices too, probably.
 
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Ok at least >>I'm<< doing my part to encourage SPs to come to the KWC area. No idea what you guys are doing other than pulling your pud to TERB advertisements.
..and yes, I'm trying to anonymize it as much as possible.


Sorry @GJ0972, I've already told her about you...she's not really into angry old men.

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I’m trying to get @SexyFriendsTO to open up out here. Now that ambition is gone it’s a huge untapped and desperate market. Plus they have Mona….
 

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I think providers don’t come out this way because the expectation here is cheaper prices. Toronto, the norm has become $200-250/hh and $300-350 for the hour. The “deals” are the $160/250 girls (except for the shady LL girls), so why travel to a market where guys bitch when anyone charges more than 140-160/hh? Not a lot of incentive to come out this way.
Sorry guys but I'm just doing my part to create an inclusive, just & equitable society.

The pic below is from a SD/SB back-and-forth. I'm asking for an hour-ish and it seems she's used to around $200? per hour for a hookup. :oops: I know that SB social rates, on an hourly basis, seem to hit $100-$150 but that's drinks/dinner/awkward groping in the parking lot. For those that know, that seems a little low ball.

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Per the thread, ya, I've been convinced that $400/H is closer to the 'market' rate but I'm quite aware that it's more likely $300 to $350. I have yet to hear back from her but I think she'll be ok with my counter-offer. 🤔

I'm going to be forwarding her some Tryst & leolist links so she knows the benchmarks I'm using. I'm just killing myself laughing that this potential Sugar Baby is now realizing that she might have been WAY under-charging, doesn't know her value, and all the guys she's seeing are about to get a BIG surprise. GOD, don't you just hate knowledge acquisition! 😏

Alternatively, when we meet, I might be ME getting the big surprise on why her price anchor is low and maybe $200/H is too high for a maybe drugged-out wackjob. 🤣 Not that I want to judge anyone's lifestyle right?

I could do the coffee meet & greet first but fuck it, forced optimism & Drop Tower feeling we goooooooo!!!!.
 
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