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I think I might know why there is less fresh talent...

SchlongConery

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OnlyFans.

Somebody posted links to some hotties on YouTube trying on 😜 various sheer outfits. Of course they led to the girls OnlyFans page.

There was this one Ukrainian girl living in Finland that I thought was particularly sexy and wanted to see naked so I went to OF, signed up for free and subscribed to her page for free.

Looked at her teaser pics and videos. No nudes. Still fun.

Well next thing I'm getting messages from her, and from other girls chatting me up. I could tell her chat was real but almost all the others were AI bots. Miss Innocent starts sending me pics that I could 'unlock' for $5-10 or something. I said I didn't use my credit card but I might get a prepaid another day. Used the same line on the other ones sending me messages non-stop.

Anyways, most of the "free" subscriptions were just hot pics of other OF girls and a referral link to their free subscription.

I must have browsed 30 girls and fuck me but they were all so goddamn hawt! I'd pay real money to get naked with them, but I think read somewhere there is a policy on all these kind of sites, like the Chaturbate, WeChat etc that block any discussion of meeting in person or communicating outside the platform.

I know a girl who is super beautiful and could use money but would not ever consider being an sp. So I looked up how much OnlyFans girls make. Holy shit, lots of them make a few thousand a month and many make tens of thousands a month! Now, granted, some of these OnlyFans girls seem to be working long hours creating content so I am happy they are making good money.

I also searched for info on how to become an OF girl and how to make the best of it, tips and tricks etc. FUCK, there is a whole industry around optimizing your routine, AI chat bots for hire, how to do affiliate marketing and which of many business models to chose from (rcurring memberships, free memberships but with micropayments for packages of pics/videos etc.

So I can see how a sexy, but maybe not well optimized educationally or by circumstance or choice woman that is having a hard time making ends meet at her regular job who wants to make money off her looks can do so on OF without risking having to suck on some smelly cheesy foreskinned bastard's cock once in a while, could turn to OF to make even a few bucks. Enough to top off her monthly shortfall or make an little extra for some treats or savings.

Now, don't get me wrong, we have it good here in Toronto. Plenty of agencies with new hot girls coming on the roster enough to keep up with those that leave and move on. But maybe not like it used to be. Or maybe it is just looking back at what we all think of the good old days. (Not just sex-wise but life in general when we were younger.)

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we are losing significant numbers of prospective sp's to OF/Chat sites etc? Or are there just more women overall getting into the sex industry (chat, camgirls, OF, "mainstream" porn industry etc)?

Would be interesting to hear from any agency or industry insiders, even if they post from a non-agency user name. I'm really curious.
 

xix

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Some people are creating AI OF woman / man.
I think this is the way to go.
 

SchlongConery

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At your age, and with your DNA, don't expect to earn much, even with breast implants.
That is funny.

But having seen what I've seen on the interwebs 🤮..... seems like a market for everything!

I betcha Donald Trump could sell his soiled undies. Mind you, they would decline in value over time due to less scarcity.
 

SchlongConery

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Some people are creating AI OF woman / man.
I think this is the way to go.

You know the sad thing is that younger men are going to grow up with less and less ability to interact with real people, men and women, in real life. AI will soon be able to create their fantasy woman who responds positively to whatever they want to hear.

Even now, these OF girls are so busy working and objectifying themselves that they have less and less actual real life human interaction.

I wonder if past great civilizations failed because of some quantum leap in some sort of technology or skill, whatever, that seemed like a good idea at the time but became their ultimate downfall?

Like really, are our lives actually better and happier and our society stronger because of computers and advances in medicine that can extend life past its otherwise natural average end? I think I lived my best years in happier times of the 70's than I do today. We rode actual bikes, not scooters. People who died in their 60's of stroke instead of living another unproductive decade with mental impairment. It's just me musing aloud, not making judgements.
 

onomatopoeia

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I won't be around to see it, but one day most of Gen Z will wake up and realize: a) They will never have a better job than barista at Starbucks because their formal education consisted of subjects which interested them, instead of prerequisites for well-paying careers. b) They will never be able to retire, because government pension funds will be depleted before they're eligible to receive anything. c) They aren't going to inherit much. Sure, their parents fully own a home worth more than a million dollars. One day, they'll sell it, and live their twilight years in luxury. The kid who lived in the basement until age 40 will be considered to have already received their inheritance, in advance. d) Once the 'diversity' demographic has grown large enough to form a majority, they will start to call the shots, and they won't necessarily show as much respect to the new minority as they demanded of them when the roles were reversed. e) They own nothing which has monetary value to someone else. When one spends a large portion of their disposable income on new fashionable clothing, travel tourism, Uber food delivery and various digital subscriptions, they literally have NOTHING that they could sell, if they needed money immediately. Homelessness awaits if they quit their job without another already lined up, or on the day when their parents sell the house.
 

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I won't be around to see it, but one day most of Gen Z will wake up and realize: a) They will never have a better job than barista at Starbucks because their formal education consisted of subjects which interested them, instead of prerequisites for well-paying careers. b) They will never be able to retire, because government pension funds will be depleted before they're eligible to receive anything. c) They aren't going to inherit much. Sure, their parents fully own a home worth more than a million dollars. One day, they'll sell it, and live their twilight years in luxury. The kid who lived in the basement until age 40 will be considered to have already received their inheritance, in advance. d) Once the 'diversity' demographic has grown large enough to form a majority, they will start to call the shots, and they won't necessarily show as much respect to the new minority as they demanded of them when the roles were reversed. e) They own nothing which has monetary value to someone else. When one spends a large portion of their disposable income on new fashionable clothing, travel tourism, Uber food delivery and various digital subscriptions, they literally have NOTHING that they could sell, if they needed money immediately. Homelessness awaits if they quit their job without another already lined up, or on the day when their parents sell the house.
Did you spawn a generation anything? I suspect not. I did. Gen Z will do just fine.
 
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onomatopoeia

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Did you spawn a generation anything? I suspect not. I did. Gen Z will do just fine.
Congratulations on becoming a father. May their gender be ever fluid.

Do you know who else said the rest, in petty much the same way? Lena Dunham, in the first episode of Girls.
 

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OnlyFans.

Somebody posted links to some hotties on YouTube trying on 😜 various sheer outfits. Of course they led to the girls OnlyFans page.

There was this one Ukrainian girl living in Finland that I thought was particularly sexy and wanted to see naked so I went to OF, signed up for free and subscribed to her page for free.

Looked at her teaser pics and videos. No nudes. Still fun.

Well next thing I'm getting messages from her, and from other girls chatting me up. I could tell her chat was real but almost all the others were AI bots. Miss Innocent starts sending me pics that I could 'unlock' for $5-10 or something. I said I didn't use my credit card but I might get a prepaid another day. Used the same line on the other ones sending me messages non-stop.

Anyways, most of the "free" subscriptions were just hot pics of other OF girls and a referral link to their free subscription.

I must have browsed 30 girls and fuck me but they were all so goddamn hawt! I'd pay real money to get naked with them, but I think read somewhere there is a policy on all these kind of sites, like the Chaturbate, WeChat etc that block any discussion of meeting in person or communicating outside the platform.

I know a girl who is super beautiful and could use money but would not ever consider being an sp. So I looked up how much OnlyFans girls make. Holy shit, lots of them make a few thousand a month and many make tens of thousands a month! Now, granted, some of these OnlyFans girls seem to be working long hours creating content so I am happy they are making good money.

I also searched for info on how to become an OF girl and how to make the best of it, tips and tricks etc. FUCK, there is a whole industry around optimizing your routine, AI chat bots for hire, how to do affiliate marketing and which of many business models to chose from (rcurring memberships, free memberships but with micropayments for packages of pics/videos etc.

So I can see how a sexy, but maybe not well optimized educationally or by circumstance or choice woman that is having a hard time making ends meet at her regular job who wants to make money off her looks can do so on OF without risking having to suck on some smelly cheesy foreskinned bastard's cock once in a while, could turn to OF to make even a few bucks. Enough to top off her monthly shortfall or make an little extra for some treats or savings.

Now, don't get me wrong, we have it good here in Toronto. Plenty of agencies with new hot girls coming on the roster enough to keep up with those that leave and move on. But maybe not like it used to be. Or maybe it is just looking back at what we all think of the good old days. (Not just sex-wise but life in general when we were younger.)

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we are losing significant numbers of prospective sp's to OF/Chat sites etc? Or are there just more women overall getting into the sex industry (chat, camgirls, OF, "mainstream" porn industry etc)?

Would be interesting to hear from any agency or industry insiders, even if they post from a non-agency user name. I'm really curious.
The difference in the long run is going to be anonymity vs internet fame. There will be stories in the near future(all ready happening) of offspring being bullied, these girls being outed with attendant ostracization and it may result in a pullback.

But more importantly will be AI . Why pay a girl when you can create one that works 24/7/365 and doesn't hive you problems. And that means many of them will be out. And looking for work.
 
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xix

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You know the sad thing is that younger men are going to grow up with less and less ability to interact with real people, men and women, in real life. AI will soon be able to create their fantasy woman who responds positively to whatever they want to hear.
B
Even now, these OF girls are so busy working and objectifying themselves that they have less and less actual real life human interaction.
C
I wonder if past great civilizations failed because of some quantum leap in some sort of technology or skill, whatever, that seemed like a good idea at the time but became their ultimate downfall?

Like really, are our lives actually better and happier and our society stronger because of computers and advances in medicine that can extend life past its otherwise natural average end? I think I lived my best years in happier times of the 70's than I do today. We rode actual bikes, not scooters. People who died in their 60's of stroke instead of living another unproductive decade with mental impairment. It's just me musing aloud, not making judgements.
A - I have seen it and living it at work. I am better of talking to the old guys.
B - I seen it in social circles. As women age their Ego becomes bigger than their head. IT is happening at 30 years old.
C - IT failed because the new gen didn't want to follow old traditions. Then natural disaster lost the education.
D - People are not happy and never will because most don't know how to be happy or what is happy. Take away the bathroom and people will learn very quickly what is happiness.
 

NotADcotor

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Congratulations on becoming a father. May their gender be ever fluid.
I am not a doctor nor have I played on one TV nor stayed at a Best Western Express but...
I am pretty sure that is how you become a father by releasing your gender fluids into a fertile personage of the female persuasion.
 

onomatopoeia

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A - I have seen it and living it at work. I am better of talking to the old guys.
B - I seen it in social circles. As women age their Ego becomes bigger than their head. IT is happening at 30 years old.
C - IT failed because the new gen didn't want to follow old traditions. Then natural disaster lost the education.
D - People are not happy and never will because most don't know how to be happy or what is happy. Take away the bathroom and people will learn very quickly what is happiness.
Many women think that being a mother means that they can speak to other people as if they are children.
Maintaining traditions and the status quo are among the primary purposes of Monotheistic religions.
 

xix

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Many women think that being a mother means that they can speak to other people as if they are children.
Maintaining traditions and the status quo are among the primary purposes of Monotheistic religions.
I wasn't thinking religion, but I agree with you.
I was more thinking about something else.

Like ... you have to marry who we chose
- Don't drink,
- Greet elders all the time... Be polite, don't play loud music, Read,,,,Say please, thank you, sorry.. Excuse me.. It's over- and not ghost them
Human Behavior's not Religion or Politics.
 

Adamxx

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“Human Behavior's not Religion or Politics”

Religion and Politics are an intricate behaviour in all humans, dont let the labels or brainwashing fool you.

It is called brainwashing to control others for perceived personal gains.
 
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Yes, OnlyFans is extremely lucrative. That's what happens when you take advantage of emotionally starved, lonely men. Normally I'm all for the sex industry, but I think OnlyFans is selling something more insidious. They're selling a fake connection, to men (and women) who think they're interacting with the actual person, when they're really talking to either an AI bot or a different person. Seems highly unethical to me. Not even sure how it's legal, since you're effectively not selling what you're claiming to sell. But I suppose if ghostwriting is legally allowed, maybe it falls under the same idea? Still feels like there should be a disclaimer.

In any case, you can see why it would be so desirable an option. Just have to make a few pieces of content a week (if that), then passively have your AI bot swarm exploit your potential customers and keep them spending as long as possible. The popular girls are millionaires, and plenty are pulling in over $100,000 a year. That said, since the most popular girls can use AI to interact with as many men as possible, that creates a large barrier to entry for anyone who's middling in attractiveness or not as social media savvy. Plus, it used to be that a relatively few girls were getting swarmed by a huge amount of socially isolated men, but as more girls join the site, the scales will balance out some.
 
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onomatopoeia

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Yes, OnlyFans is extremely lucrative. That's what happens when you take advantage of emotionally starved, lonely men. Normally I'm all for the sex industry, but I think OnlyFans is selling something more insidious. They're selling a fake connection, to men (and women) who think they're interacting with the actual person, when they're really talking to either an AI bot or a different person. Seems highly unethical to me. Not even sure how it's legal, since you're effectively not selling what you're claiming to sell. But I suppose if ghostwriting is legally allowed, maybe it falls under the same idea? Still feels like there should be a disclaimer.

In any case, you can see why it would be so desirable an option. Just have to make a few pieces of content a week (if that), then passively have your AI bot swarm exploit your potential customers and keep them spending as long as possible. The popular girls are millionaires, and plenty are pulling in over $100,000 a year. That said, since the most popular girls can use AI to interact with as many men as possible, that creates a large barrier to entry for anyone who's middling in attractiveness or not as social media savvy. Plus, it used to be that a relatively few girls were getting swarmed by a huge amount of socially isolated men, but as more girls join the site, the scales will balance out some.
OnlyFans is a pyramid. The top 5% earn about 80% of the total subscription income. The bottom 50% probably make $5 an hour for the time they spend creating content.
 
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