Israel at war

Frankfooter

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What I realized was that we dont really have any authority or organization that can make any country do anything. I mean the UN, ICJ, ICC - they are all paper tigers and utterly useless. What happened when the issued they arrest warrant for Putin? South Africa flat out asked them to fuck off lol. Only the US can because of its strength, but they are partisan in this case due to obvious reasons.
It was grassroots sanctions that ended South African aparthied.
The colleges are all demanding divestment, the D of BDS.

If the ICC lays charges it gets very awkward for the liberals here for other countries as well.
Whether the US pays attention is another question, but it looks like this has already cost Biden his reelection.

 
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Yeah but the US did not have the same relationship with South Africa that it does with Israel. Here they are openly protecting injustice, going to any length to defend them, giving them 100s of billions of dollars of tax payer money and heck, trying to modify their own laws, oppress their own country men and divide their own country in an attempt to control the narrative, all for the well being of a foreign state. And I dont think on this issue Repugs or the Dems matter. They will both do the same things.
True, I don't think South Africa spent nearly as much on buying politicians.

 
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Yeah but the US did not have the same relationship with South Africa that it does with Israel. Here they are openly protecting injustice, going to any length to defend them, giving them 100s of billions of dollars of tax payer money and heck, trying to modify their own laws, oppress their own country men and divide their own country in an attempt to control the narrative, all for the well being of a foreign state. And I dont think on this issue Repugs or the Dems matter. They will both do the same things.
There is a half trillion dollar gas field off the coast. And oil as well. What do the think that pier is really for?

As I said months ago. There is not going to be a one state or teo state solution. Just a winner and a loser. The peace talks are meaningless. The hostages are dead.
 
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There is no winner or loser in this because it is not a war. It is an assault and genocide on people by a nuclear armed state. They won't be able to kill all of them, and imo Gaza will remain Palestinian except for security checkpoints. Will it have settlements? Not immediately I don't think so. Maybe in the future.
They won't be going back to Gaza City. Once Rafah is invaded many of them will end up I think in North Africa. With some agreed upon numbers maybe to the USA and Europe.

The oil companies are involved now. That exploration deal was a 25 year deal signed in 1999. What year is it again? Europe needs to secure a new source of gas and oil due to Russian aggression. How close is that field?

Once thats done it clears the way to the Saudi peace deal. Especially if the elderly king should suddenly pass and MBS takes over.
 
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