CNN: Russia producing 3x the number of shells of Europe and USA combined.

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Cutting down Russia's oil refinery capacity by drones could be good
for oil prices. Thanks Zelensky. Would be great if Putin is to be provoked
into destroying the dinky oil fields in France.
 

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Cutting down Russia's oil refinery capacity by drones could be good
for oil prices. Thanks Zelensky. Would be great if Putin is to be provoked
into destroying the dinky oil fields in France.

You do indeed have an <ahem> unusual mind.
 
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I guess all the Russian voices saying they are must be wrong. All their claims about converting factories to munitions and construction of military supplies must be wrong because Notty said so.
One of the two branches of Russian propaganda is absolutely not caring about consistency. They are told one thing one day, and could be told the polar opposite a week later... and the Russian population believes it. Truly believes it.

How many times did RusskyBoi warn us that among other things Russian Military Machine is gearing up and will out produce the entire world ? And more bs about how sanctions are no problem, and it's no problem about oil and nat gas economy being stronger than ever.. thanks to sanctions! All while Russia has had to stop refined petroleum being exported so they can fuel the last of their BMW's, Mercedes and stolen Airbus and Boeing jets. Ya... no sweat! All is going to plan! :giggle:

The excellent report I read yesterday about how Russia is still able to produce new missiles and military equipment clearly states that pretty much all CNC machining and metal cutting and fabrication equipment and business' have been forced to switch production to around the clock domestic military contracts. (I admit that the report was pretty worrisome to me. Seems that French Dassault Systemes and German Siemens could shut down these machines by disabling the software. WTF? 🤷‍♂️)
 
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Cutting down Russia's oil refinery capacity by drones could be good
for oil prices. Thanks Zelensky. Would be great if Putin is to be provoked
into destroying the dinky oil fields in France.
The French and NATO would nuke Russia FORWARD INTO the Stone Age.
 
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The French and NATO would nuke Russia FORWARD INTO the Stone Age.

Lives of Europeans are too much more precious than lives of the Slavic
people for the war to escalate to nuclear holocaust. Annihilation of the
entire Russia (plus parts of Ukraine) is not worth the evaporation of Paris.
Given how stingy Europe has been with military aid to Zelensky it is improbable
they would be willing to give a handful of their lives for Ukraine's protection.
 
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Lives of Europeans are too much more precious than lives of the Slavic
people for the war to escalate to nuclear holocaust. Annihilation of the
entire Russia (plus parts of Ukraine) is not worth the evaporation of Paris.
Given how stingy Europe has been with military aid to Zelensky it is improbable
they would be willing to give a handful of their lives for Ukraine's protection.
We'll see.

And your example gave Russia nuking France. So I responded.
 

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We'll see.

And your example gave Russia nuking France. So I responded.
That is not the scenario I imagined.

It is however a plausible scenario for Putin's Russia to
destroy France's oil fields in the Aquitaine and the Paris
basins in retaliation to destruction of Russia's oil infrastructures
by Europe-supplied missiles. Those are miserably tiny
fields compared with the super giant oil fields in the
Middle East. Conventional missiles or drones would
suffice to wipe them out.
 

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Both sides have capture tanks, but there have been very few vids of captured Russian tanks, T-72's are operated by both sides, but any Ukrainian T-90 would be captured. Not seen many of these at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_the_Ukrainian_Army Wiki indicates very little evidence of captured Russian tanks. Also captured vehicles from Russia are of little use anyways as all combat vehicles need a steady stream of parts and repair during combat ops. Even Wiki (Pro NAFO) states at most 100 tanks and about 100-150 armoured vehicles.

Both sides you say... Uke propaganda on dead Russians eh?

This guy interviews lots of Russian POW's and unless you think he is an Oscar-worthy Director with Oscar winning Uke actors or fake translations.... seems pretty consistent with Russians losiing 90% of their fresh meat assaulters.

Have a listen Nottsky and share your special insight.

 
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Meh, it's never too late to matter that the katsaps keeps laying their balls out to get chopped off and render their country impotent.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Katsap.

A word used mainly by Ukrainians to refer to Russians in a negative tone. Originates from the word 'goat' (tsap), referring to the goatees once almost universally popular in Russia

 

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They have no problem moving the ammo, they have extensive rail networks and road. 100T is very easy to move they have airlifters that can move 60T in a single flight. They have helos, trucks, etc. They are at 3m a yeat accroding to the article, but many people said that is just prewar moving to 7x24. They are probably between 4-7m rounds a year now. They have no problems moving anything to the front. I have not seen many vids of Urkaine attacking trains. Where do you get 240kg per round, that is absurd. Even a 207 mm round is about 100kg.
Yes projectiles weigh, depending on size up to 100KG.
Add the propellent needed to fire those projectiles, fuses, as well as the weight of the crates and steel boxes they are shipped in.
For example the 155MM shell is shipped in wooden crates , each containing 12 projectiles.
The crate is built strong enough to carry these without breaking during handling and the box itself weighs on average about 150kg, making the total weight of one crate about 700 kg.
https://jpeoaa.army.mil/Portals/94/...lioBook_2017.pdf?ver=SIoiwDKO0ojFED1s-ID-Hg==
For a single155MM projectile the shipping weight of all these components averages about 240 kg.
I have not seen anywhere being reported that they are, or have produced, over 2 million shells in a year, could you provide the links to these?
In 2022 they had the ability to produce 1 million shells a year domestically but didn't actually manufacture at that level till 2023.
There are many videos of not only trains being attacked, derailed and blown up but switching stations, boxes, communications cable for signals all being set on fire in Russia and the occupied areas by partisians.
I believe this is the most recent report of a rail bridge being attacked.
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/...sponsibility-for-russian-railway-bridge-blast
I would guess there are many not so high profile attacks that are not reported by the media.
 
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