Israel at war

canada-man

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As soon as you refer to death camps I can see it would be useless trying to engage with you.
put franky on ignore don't waste your bandwidth on a propagandist who openly supports and defends terrorism and hate crimes against jews
 

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Palestinians have no self determination...
At least that's your goal.

You must really have a high opinion of yourself to think you have a right to deny Palestinian self-determination while demonizing Israel for not making Palestinians become Israelis against their will. Again, Palestinians in East Jerusalem and Golan have citizenship offered to them but because of Palestinian political pressure, very, very few take them up on it. That's around 400,000 Palestinians who could become Israelis simply by filling out paperwork and Israel actively encouraging them to do so but in the 50 years it's been on offer, only 20,000 have chosen to do so.

Self determination in this case means both sides have a right to be there AND the obligation to accept the other side being there. Hamas and 75% of Palestinians reject that concept and that has to change before there can be a negotiated peace. Hamas has been 100% clear that they will continue their violence including targeting of civilians until the Jewish presence is gone. I know you agree with them but that is nowhere near a moral stance, especially as you are living as a settler in Canada.

p.s. Half of Israeli Jews are or are descended from Ottoman Arabs (and a few Persians). They are just as indigenous as other Arabs but you desperately ignore it because it doesn't fit your racist interpretation. You just have the racist views that Jews are evil and Arabs are too far beneath you to have their own opinions, let alone be held accountable for their choices.
 

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I haven't defended anything. perhaps point me to where I have. I pointed out the silliness of you referring to "death camps". Someone recommend I put you on ignore. I probably should.
Gaza has been a concentration camp for years, Israel even counted calories for a while.

That was over a decade ago and the blockade has not lifted since.
Now Israel has destroyed almost all of Gaza and are in the middle of a genocide where 5% of the population has been killed, injured or buried in rubble.
Half a million stand to die by starvation and disease.

How is that not a death camp?
 

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Gaza has been a concentration camp for years, Israel even counted calories for a while.

That was over a decade ago and the blockade has not lifted since.
Now Israel has destroyed almost all of Gaza and are in the middle of a genocide where 5% of the population has been killed, injured or buried in rubble.
Half a million stand to die by starvation and disease.

How is that not a death camp?
If you do not know the difference then it would be pointless to try and explain.
 

Victor Lazlo

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So its ok to become like a nazi because you hate the 'others' that much?

Do you really think that silly rhetoric is persuasive. Is it not possible to condemn Hamas for the atrocities of October 7 and also condemn Israel for its reaction? Do you think that Israel had a right to retaliate in a more measured way or should the have done nothing at all.
 

Frankfooter

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Do you really think that silly rhetoric is persuasive. Is it not possible to condemn Hamas for the atrocities of October 7 and also condemn Israel for its reaction? Do you think that Israel had a right to retaliate in a more measured way or should the have done nothing at all.
Sure, both sides should be investigated and held to the law.
Then international pressure should end the occupation, apartheid and illegal settlements.

Take the leaders of both sides to the Hague.
But don't try to equivocate between a one day attack and a 75 year occupation leading towards genocide.

One side has been the military oppressor for half a century.
 
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Sure, both sides should be investigated and held to the law.
Then international pressure should end the occupation, apartheid and illegal settlements.

Take the leaders of both sides to the Hague.
But don't try to equivocate between a one day attack and a 75 year occupation leading towards genocide.

One side has been the military oppressor for half a century.
One side has spilled blood and broken peace agreements and UN brokered maps. You’ll defer to and scream “the UN” at all other times, when it suits you…….but not that.

funny that.
 
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Frankfooter

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One side has spilled blood and broken peace agreements and UN brokered maps. You’ll defer to and scream “the UN” at all other times, when it suits you…….but not that.

funny that.
Yes, one side has refused to honour over 60 UN resolutions.
One side is ignoring ICJ provisional measures.
One side is using US vetoes to block all UNSC ceasefire calls.
One side is illegally occupying the other side.
Once side is committing genocide.

You know which side, don't you?

More aid seekers killed at the same location as ‘flour massacre’
Palestinian Foreign Ministry welcomes S Africa’s request for ICJ emergency measures
Israeli forces ‘likely’ shot machinegun at reporters after shelling them
‘Children dying and fainting in the streets from hunger’
Palestinian resistance will increase in face of increased settlement activity
Houthi official says US to blame for Red Sea turmoil
Thousands of children are on their own in Gaza
Israel returns 47 bodies to Gaza after digging up graveyard

 
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Doesn’t matter FF. Not in the slightest. If you and I have properties lines, and you come into my yard and kill my dog, son, daughter, mother, father, wife. Any or all, it’s not going to end well for you. The more you do, the worse it gets. Welcome to the real world.

the other point is, that obviously went /whoosh ( there’s a huge shocker), is that at any other time, you will scream THE UN the UN the UN….

who drew the property lines in 1947, that you will not accept, the only time you DONT scream the UN

who drew blood the next day.
 
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