Will NATO bomb the Houthis??

mandrill

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He forgot to mention he got an 'F'
Yeah, Danny. I got straight F's in undergrad. That's how I got into law school.

I'm guessing that the reason you hate lawyers so much is that you never quite made it into a law school with your own marks.
 
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Well argued, you used stern language and a wiki link.
Very impressive.

Balfour:
“Zionism, be it right or wrong, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land.”

Churchill:
‘I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly-wise race … has come in & taken their place

Zionism was a racist, colonial movement where racist Brits tried to get rid of the 'Jewish problem' by supporting them taking over a country that was 90% Arab. Its been a festering sore of racism and hate ever since.
Frankie, every European in the early twentieth century was "racist" - fact. That was the prevailing view.

What has that got to do with a century later?
 

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I'm anti occupation.
Russia shouldn't occupy Ukraine.
Israel shouldn't occupy Palestine.

Why do you think Biden dropping a few missiles on Yemen will accomplish more than the Saudis, who bombed Yemen for 7 years?
Yemen is incredibly poor, there is hardly any infrastructure to hit.

All its doing is saying that Biden thinks shipping containers are more important than Palestinian children.
Biden will lose the election because of his support of Israel and rump will win.

You just can't see this, the same way your British roots mean you can't understand colonialism.
Just the same way I'm a "racist". Got it.

I think that the USN will missile the Hooters until they destroy their ability to strike offensively. And then the Hooters will be castrated until the Ayatollahs give them more missiles.

And the Hooters have no right to strike other people's ships and will misbehave until they're kicked hard enough to make them stop. And it's in everyone's interest that this happen asap.

And this has nothing to do with "colonialism" or "racism" or any other of your little tantrums.
 

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Yeah, Danny. I got straight F's in undergrad. That's how I got into law school.

I'm guessing that the reason you hate lawyers so much is that you never quite made it into a law school with your own marks.
Hahaha, law school are for the ones who cannot get a grasp on science, as is well demonstrated by you.
I guess we should not be too hard on them; they have to find a way of making a living, however dishonest
 
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Hahaha, law school are for the ones who cannot get a grasp on science, as is well demonstrated by you.
I guess we should not be too hard on them; they have to find a way of making a living, however dishonest
I guess we're smarter on facts and logic than we are on chemical compounds, huh?
 

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I guess we're smarter on facts and logic than we are on chemical compounds, huh?
The evidence says no.

As long as there have been lawyers, their reason for being have always been to provide cover for the powerful against the powerless.
What better example than your support of Israel's genocide and wanton destruction of Gaza.
Every atrocity performed by Hitler, Stalin and Genesis Khan was enthusiastically approved by the legal profession.
 
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The evidence says no.

As long as there have been lawyers, their reason for being have always been to provide cover for the powerful against the powerless.
What better example than your support of Israel's genocide and wanton destruction of Gaza.
Every atrocity performed by Hitler, Stalin and Genesis Khan was enthusiastically approved by the legal profession.
Took you a few minutes to think out the last half of that retort and edit your post and add it, huh?

Guess that "facts and logic" isn't working that well for you this morning.
 

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Frankie, every European in the early twentieth century was "racist" - fact. That was the prevailing view.

What has that got to do with a century later?
Israel is really the last settler colonialist state.
its the last built on that mentality and maintained through violence.
 

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Just the same way I'm a "racist". Got it.

I think that the USN will missile the Hooters until they destroy their ability to strike offensively. And then the Hooters will be castrated until the Ayatollahs give them more missiles.

And the Hooters have no right to strike other people's ships and will misbehave until they're kicked hard enough to make them stop. And it's in everyone's interest that this happen asap.

And this has nothing to do with "colonialism" or "racism" or any other of your little tantrums.
Well, you certainly don't sound racist with that reply.
 

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Israel is really the last settler colonialist state.
its the last built on that mentality and maintained through violence.
but when Islamists conquered Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq, and much of Afghanistan does that count as colonialism?
 

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Have you noticed that the US military only bombs countries that have no means of defending themselves?
 

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Have you noticed that the US military only bombs countries that have no means of defending themselves?
You’re saying it as if it’s a bad thing
 

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And they will tell you how 'state of the art' they are, and proceed to make Discovery Channel documentaries glorifying their armed forces over that of the ones who are low on morale, equipment and military culture. Not that they are not state of the art, or are not actually strong, but I think WW2 was the last time, equally powered countries actually fought each other.
Question, do you think if Russia did not have nukes, the US would have been flying F16 and missiles launched from the sea and picking them apart within a few weeks in aid of Ukraine? I believe and think that the only reason they do not engage directly with big players is to avoid the possibility of a nuclear holocaust.
 
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I agree they can't go on the ground. Realty is it is nearly impossible for armies to contain a country on the ground long term but I don't believe Russia would be able to hold off a shock and awe campaign in a conventional war which would be used just to stop them from harassing Ukraine if no nukes were in the game.

on the other hand, I believe CHina would have a better chance against the US in a conventional war.
 

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Question, do you think if Russia did not have nukes, the US would have been flying F16 and missiles launched from the sea and picking them apart within a few weeks in aid of Ukraine? I believe and think that the only reason they do not engage directly with big players is to avoid the possibility of a nuclear holocaust.
They could air strike those rail links and those bridges from Crimea and starve the Russian army out. It's pretty starve-y anyway. But Uncle Sam would tighten those belts a lot more.
 

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Well, you certainly don't sound racist with that reply.
How is it racist?

If I call Russians "Russkies" and Frenchmen "Frenchies", does that make me racist too?

Do you even think before you post?
 

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China also operates mostly Russian equipment or copies of (license produced) versions of the same. Recently, it was found that apparently due to corruption, their ballistic missiles were filled with water, instead of rocket fuel. LOL.

IMO they would fail similarly to the Russians along with the fact that they are not a very combat experienced army. Their troop morale is nothing to write home about either. However all that said, they are still a very large army, from a very large country, with massive financial and natural resources.

I am not sure how much shock and awe will really have an impact, or if that even is feasible with countries like Russia and China. Shock and awe is possible only when you have air superiority, which the US had with Iraq. However with the massive airforces of China and Russia, along with multi-layered air defences, long range radars, long range SAMs, satellites and their own GPS systems, ballistic missiles that can reach every corner of the globe etc., you'd have to press massive military assets against them. That is very cost prohibitive. So even if the US is able to establish air superiority, I think they will only be able to do so with massive losses, to the point shock and awe will not be feasible. Anyway, I am not a military analyst, but this is my reasoning.
Depends how fuck-awful the Chinese army actually is.

Commentators were suggesting that it would grossly underperform its theoretical capability as early as a couple of years ago.
 

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And they will tell you how 'state of the art' they are, and proceed to make Discovery Channel documentaries glorifying their armed forces over that of the ones who are low on morale, equipment and military culture. Not that they are not state of the art, or are not actually strong, but I think WW2 was the last time, equally powered countries actually fought each other.
Well, "equally powered countries" have frequently fought each other since WW2. Example would be Iran and Iraq.

The only superpower clash has been along the Amur River and those were brief skirmishes.
 
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