Jeffrey Epstein docs with names of associates to be made public: report

[Phil C. McNasty]

No.
In this case, I have no interest in doing the primary sources work.
But since the people who really DO have an interest can't produce anything of note here, I'm ok with that.

So far we've seen names we've already seen and testimony we mostly already knew about through other sources.
We've gotten some more detail on specifics about Alan Dershowitz.
We've seen people say Stephen Hawking was involved even though the actual documents don't say that.
We've seen lots of repeating that lawyers asked about Bill Clinton even though nothing substantial came of it.

I do think a couple of billionaire's names who were not well known to have been accused by Giuffre have come out.

In other words... not much.

If a bombshell accusation comes out, I will go look up what the documents actually say.
But since all we're getting right now is retreads and "oooh, there are dozens of names but we won't say who they are", I am not going to bother

There was a list of about 30 to 40 people in one of the documents.
Only 4 names had a wiki page (Bill Clinton, Ron Burkle, Glenn Dubin and some other guy who's name I cant remember). The rest of the list were of people I never heard of, nor did they have a wiki page or linkedin profile, so there was no point in posting the entire list.

There will be 11 more documents released over the next 11 days, so more high profile names might still drop

 

[Valcazar]

There was a list of about 30 to 40 people in one of the documents.

Cool.
What was it a list of?

There was his black book released years ago, that had hundreds of names.

Only 4 names had a wiki page (Bill Clinton, Ron Burkle, Glenn Dubin and some other guy who's name I cant remember). The rest of the list were of people I never heard of, nor did they have a wiki page or linkedin profile, so there was no point in posting the entire list.

Isn't that exactly backwards?
If these are new names and people you had never heard of, then this is the list of new names.
Assuming, of course, that this is a list of people being accused and not a list of random names.

There will be 11 more documents released over the next 11 days, so more high profile names might still drop

And I still expect absolutely nothing of note to pop up.

The people who were hyping this as a list of clients or a list of associates were lying.
We knew the names were just "any name mentioned in the civil trial" from the beginning and that one of the reasons the judge unsealed this is those names were out there from other cases and reporting.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Cool.
What was it a list of?

Behind every name there was 1 of the following 2 descriptions IIRC:

"This person has knowledge of Epstein's crimes"
"This person may have knowledge of Epstein's crimes"

There was his black book released years ago, that had hundreds of names

I dont remember a black book being released.
Please post a link

Isn't that exactly backwards?
If these are new names and people you had never heard of, then this is the list of new names.
Assuming, of course, that this is a list of people being accused and not a list of random names

No, because out of the 4 names that had wiki pages only Bill Clinton was known.
I never heard of Burkle or Dunn being associated with Epstein until this week

The people who were hyping this as a list of clients or a list of associates were lying

I disagree. And there are 11 more docs to come

 

[Butler1000]

Cool.
What was it a list of?

There was his black book released years ago, that had hundreds of names.



Isn't that exactly backwards?
If these are new names and people you had never heard of, then this is the list of new names.
Assuming, of course, that this is a list of people being accused and not a list of random names.



And I still expect absolutely nothing of note to pop up.

The people who were hyping this as a list of clients or a list of associates were lying.
We knew the names were just "any name mentioned in the civil trial" from the beginning and that one of the reasons the judge unsealed this is those names were out there from other cases and reporting.

In third batch of Epstein documents, a call from Harvey Weinstein, more famous men and disquieting details

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/05/business/jeffrey-epstein-documents-unsealed-part-three

One thing we are seeing is the Fifth being taken when discussing some names.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744020456720523394

 

[Valcazar]

Behind every name there was 1 of the following 2 descriptions IIRC:

"This person has knowledge of Epstein's crimes"
"This person may have knowledge of Epstein's crimes"

You sure that wasn't just the list in the original court order?
Honestly, that sounds like just a request for depositions.
It means someone wanted to ask them about something.
That's not really much of a list, since literally anyone who ever interacted with them could be on that list.
If you were a concierge at a hotel that someone told you Jeffrey Epstein stayed at when he took an underage girl on a shopping spree, you would be listed as" this person may have knowledge of Epstein's crimes".

But I will try and find that list and double check it.
Maybe I'm wrong and it is more serious than that but not a single reporter has decided to comment on it.

I dont remember a black book being released.
Please post a link

I think Frank posted it earlier in one of these threads.
I'm sure it is still available on the internet, I will try and find it.

No, because out of the 4 names that had wiki pages only Bill Clinton was known.
I never heard of Burkle or Dunn being associated with Epstein until this week

Is that just because you had never heard of them or because you didn't pay attention to the Epstein case unless it was about targets who were hyped for scandal factor?

I disagree. And there are 11 more docs to come

Call me when there is a "a list of his clients or associates" and not just "names that were mentioned in court documents, most of which were already public".

 

[Valcazar]

In third batch of Epstein documents, a call from Harvey Weinstein, more famous men and disquieting details

A call from Weinstein about what. It's just a note saying he called.
That we got some more details from testimony isn't surprising, but more details that Weinstein is a creep or Prince Andrew a sleaze isn't the bombshell the hype-mongers were going for, now is it?

One thing we are seeing is the Fifth being taken when discussing some names.

From the article: "To all questions, Kellen asserts her Fifth Amendment right and refuses to answer the question."
That appears to be her lawyer saying "just take the fifth to everything".

 

[Frankfooter]

I think Frank posted it earlier in one of these threads.
I'm sure it is still available on the internet, I will try and find it.

First hit for 'Epstein black book'

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

The xitter seems to be filled with Mossad theories right now.
That's way more entertaining than Bill Clinton.

 

[squeezer]

Digging into Trump's past. Oh my Anushka, oh oh. LOL

 

[silentkisser]

There are 12 more batches of documents to come.

So far Epstein has admitted to one victim that Clinton likes them young.
Also Clinton reportedly stormed into Vanity Fair's office to demand a damaging article about Epstein be retracted.
So obviously he knew Epstein fairly well, or maybe he didnt want damaging information about himself to come out either.
Also according to flight logs Clinton flew into Epstein's island about a dozen times.

Jeffrey Epstein court documents: Bill Clinton 'threatened' magazine not to publish articles about his 'good friend'

In other developments, an anti-monarchy pressure group has reported Prince Andrew to the Metropolitan Police after allegations of sexual assault re-emerged.

news.sky.com

Its all starting to look a little suspicious.
But in the name of fairness I will reserve judgement until more info comes out

Look, I don't want to defend either Trump or Clinton for this. Both could have sexually assaulted underage girls with Epstein. But, it is also possible that neither did. Clinton may not have known about the illegal activity and only saw Epstein as a potential donor or rainmaker who could get cash to help with Democratic campaigns. Trump may have saw him as a high-flying rich dude who could open doors with possible investors or those looking for luxury condos and what not.

I'll say this: just because nobody has accused either of doing anything illegal doesn't mean they haven't. But the fact that so far nobody has come forward makes me believe there is a chance they didn't. I know being associated with Epstein is like the scarlet letter or mark of the beast. It taints you, even if you did nothing wrong. But, there is a legit chance that some of the people named in this had no sexual relations with the girls, and used Epstein for networking purposes.

But again, nobody really knows who was doing horrible things to underaged girls. We know there were allegations against Dershowitz and Prince Andrew....but so far none against the former presidents.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Epstein accuser claims pedophile had sex tapes of Trump, Clinton, Prince Andrew and Richard Branson: new docs

Sarah Ransome claimed that she had copies of tapes Epstein had made of some of his high-profile friends allegedly having sex with an unnamed woman.

nypost.com

 

[squeezer]

Piers Morgan vs Jeffrey Epstein's Brother | 'He Stopped Hanging Out With 'Crook' Donald Trump'

 

[squeezer]

SHOCK CLAIM: Trump sex at Epstein mansion, "many girls"

 

[squeezer]

It seems Donald Lumpty Trumpity is DOE 174


Trump SECRET ALIAS OUTED in Court Docs

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I'm going to say this: I would not be shocked if Slick Willie got his one-eyed willy wet with underage girls on Epstein Island. Nor would I be shocked if Donny Boy planted his magic mushroom. Both are known philanderers, and we know Trump did a lot of scummy things to underage girls when he owned the Miss Teen USA pagent (like walking in their changing rooms when he knew they would be naked).

Now, I will also say there is a chance that neither of them did anything wrong. Trump and Epstein's relationship went in the toilet 25 years ago. Was that before he started trafficking underage girls? Maybe. Clinton...he would have had a Secret Service detail with him, and it is likely he would refrain from illegal activity in their presence. But, again, maybe I'm giving both dudes too much credit....

Some fun facts : Epstein supposedly kept records and videos of the people he partied with. Trump gave a job to the florida prosecutor who let Epstein off with secret deal. Trump also wished Epsteins life partner 'well' when she was going to prison. Was this a threat by Trump for her not to expose him or meet the same fate as Jeffrey ? I imagine Donnie has threatened hundreds of people to keep their mouths shut about his wrongdoings or he will bury you financially and publicly.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The most expensive outcall ever

Epstein court documents reveal Virginia Giuffre claims she was paid $15,000 to have sex with Prince Andrew

Prince Andrew has strenuously denied any wrongdoing and claimed he never met Virginia Giuffre, who was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.

news.sky.com

 

[silentkisser]

Some fun facts : Epstein supposedly kept records and videos of the people he partied with. Trump gave a job to the florida prosecutor who let Epstein off with secret deal. Trump also wished Epsteins life partner 'well' when she was going to prison. Was this a threat by Trump for her not to expose him or meet the same fate as Jeffrey ? I imagine Donnie has threatened hundreds of people to keep their mouths shut about his wrongdoings or he will bury you financially and publicly.

Hey, it could be. Or, Trump is a fucking idiot and says good things to and about disgusting people (see: Putin and Kim Jong Un to name a few).

 

[Frankfooter]

The most expensive outcall ever

Epstein court documents reveal Virginia Giuffre claims she was paid $15,000 to have sex with Prince Andrew

Prince Andrew has strenuously denied any wrongdoing and claimed he never met Virginia Giuffre, who was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.

news.sky.com

Nah, rump had the $147,000 Stormy Daniels visit and another of about the same

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Hey, it could be. Or, Trump is a fucking idiot and says good things to and about disgusting people (see: Putin and Kim Jong Un to name a few).

Turnip had a falling out with Jeffrey so why would he even make the comment ? Epstein had a lot of dirt on a lot of well known people which is most likely why he is where he is

 

[lomotil]

Turnip had a falling out with Jeffrey so why would he even make the comment ? Epstein had a lot of dirt on a lot of well known people which is most likely why he is where he is

And what did Epstein do with this “dirt”, I suspect it was shared and he did not act along for sure in operating this enterprise with others besides Maxwell most certainly.