CPAP machine

[boomboom]

Sleep apnea is way more than just snoring. The primary reason is people, mostly men, stop breathing for periods of time. Then gasp for air as their breathing restarts. Sometimes this break lasts for 20-60 seconds or more. The longer the break, the harder on your body. You tend to have broken sleep as well. Both the CPAP & mouth appliance take time to get used to. I hated mine at 1st, but stuck with it.
5yrs with CPAP
10yrs with mouth appliance

 

[eddie kerr]

Clear instance of someone with the wrong mask or hasn't given enough of an attempt to wear it daily.

It's critical you use the device if you've been prescribed/have sleep apnea. It doesn't matter how one "feels" - sleep apnea is life threatening.

I do agree, however, after trying 3 different types of masks, all top quality, I would awake in the middle of the níght as the mask would start vibrating when the CPAP machine automatically increased the pressure causing me to wake up and throw the mask across the room. Have you not seen the tv commercial from Inspire Sleep.com?? By the way their product was not available in Canada as of last year

 

[myballsitch]

Need to buy a CPAP machine due to a diagnosis of sleep apnea after completing a sleep test.
Any recommendations on where to buy and what to look for?
Which brands are best or do they all do the same thing.

Insurance or your own $$?

 

[Meaning]

I do agree, however, after trying 3 different types of masks, all top quality, I would awake in the middle of the níght as the mask would start vibrating when the CPAP machine automatically increased the pressure causing me to wake up and throw the mask across the room. Have you not seen the tv commercial from Inspire Sleep.com?? By the way their product was not available in Canada as of last year

I've seen the commercial for sure but why would you ever put yourself at risk via a surgery when it's not needed?

Trust me I understand the struggle of using these machines - It took me 2 years before I was able to use it without challenge.

 

[bmwquay]

I do agree, however, after trying 3 different types of masks, all top quality, I would awake in the middle of the níght as the mask would start vibrating when the CPAP machine automatically increased the pressure causing me to wake up and throw the mask across the room. Have you not seen the tv commercial from Inspire Sleep.com?? By the way their product was not available in Canada as of last year

Is there a way to turn off auto increase in pressure or is that part of how CPAP needs to work?

 

[bmwquay]

Insurance or your own $$?

The doctor who prescribed me the CPAP machine says OHIP covers 75%.
I do also have insurance which I'm thinking should cover the other 25%

 

[bmwquay]

Does anyone have experience with any of ResMed Airsense 10, F&P Sleepstyle, or Phillips Resperonics Dreamstation?

 

[Meaning]

Is there a way to turn off auto increase in pressure or is that part of how CPAP needs to work?

Increase in pressure can be delayed by a certain period of time. Mine is set at either 30 or 40 mins so that I can fall asleep before it ramps up.

 

[bmwquay]

Increase in pressure can be delayed by a certain period of time. Mine is set at either 30 or 40 mins so that I can fall asleep before it ramps up.

auto increase is same as ramp? Can it be turned off or is it not recommended to turn off ramp.

 

[bmwquay]

How about masks? Or is it really based on personal preference and comfort level?

 

[spankey]

The doctor who prescribed me the CPAP machine says OHIP covers 75%.
I do also have insurance which I'm thinking should cover the other 25%

Back a few years the program was called “assisted devices “, may have changed since then.
Whom ever you make the purchase through will know the correct channels to go through to cover the government portion and complete the documents required (at least in my case)

Work benefits covered the remainder.

 

[myballsitch]

This is a passionate subject with me. I never had any insurance to cover Cpap machines/masks so I was always looking for ways t cut costs.
When I first got my first machine in Ontario it was mostly covered by OHIP. The mask was not covered. This was 15 yrs. Jesus time flys.

I found the cpap industry felt like used car sales. Once insurance provides coverage then the price goes up all over. The price is very CONTOLLED across Canada like APPLE products. In the USA prices are much better even with the $$ exchange. Years ago I started ordering from CPAP.COM and never purchased in Canada again.

I fond used and new machines for sale on Kijiji. A good if you have no insurance. You don't need a any expert to adjust the machine pressures if there is no auto increase. Lots of info on the sleep apnea forms.

The machines and sleep apnea were greatly over prescribed for a few years. There are other ways to control sleep apnea ...nothing wrong wih machines when needed. There are dental deceives, tongue extenders which can all work well. These should be tried first before the big cash/insurance outlay first.

One of the popular remedies which work are tap[ing the mouth. Yes it work! I use it all the time. Again not for everyone.

Sleep position can improve breathing too. Most Sleep apnea can be improved by sleeping on your side. It Stops snoring because your tongue doesn't slide nack into your throat stopping breathing. This is my issues. The ear nose throat specialist said my tongue was larger than normal.
Look on Amazon for sleep noodles. Cheap compared to a machine.


I had to rant. I hate the industry. It all about money. Then again isn't everything else.

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[Meaning]

auto increase is same as ramp? Can it be turned off or is it not recommended to turn off ramp.

Auto increase or ramp is where the machine starts to where it goes to your actual pressures. That increase, or ramp, can be delayed when you start the machine so that when you turn it on, the pressure is very mild. You then have time to fall asleep and the machine will then increase/ramp pressure up to your actual required settings after that period of time.

 

[Deviant]

Lots of info on the sleep apnea forms.

This is where to do your research. Good tip m...

Resmed is the big name in the industry. My machine is not Resmed, my mask's are, which I buy from Amazon (could be cpap.com supplier).
I also found the hose too short, I am single and toss and turn all over, so I bought a second hose and connect the two. I also buy extra hoses because I rip them to shreds when I am high and the hose lands on my face, I freak out.

As mention The cpac

Need to buy a CPAP machine due to a diagnosis of sleep apnea after completing a sleep test.

My doctor didn't recommend a specific unit but he did in the Rx note CPAP pressure of 5 to 15 with humidifier and ramp.

The sleep test should have fine tuned the pressure to a single value, not 5-15. There was a huge jump(difference) for me when I went from 7 to 10 (after sleep study).
That pressure is an Rx as you mentioned, I believe the pressure and settings are locked, my units always were.

The vendor will handle all the paperwork for OHIP and also will show you how to velcro the strap around your head to justify they have given you medical instruction.

Humidifier, is also (as mentioned by "/u Meaning") too hot for me, I don't use it, the hose is actually heated. The humidifier and hose must be cleaned every night else you risk serious bacterial growth.

 

[bmwquay]

Back a few years the program was called “assisted devices “, may have changed since then.
Whom ever you make the purchase through will know the correct channels to go through to cover the government portion and complete the documents required (at least in my case)

Work benefits covered the remainder.

My understanding is coverage for replacements like masks and hose is covered by insurance every 6 months and a new machine every 5 years. Is this correct?

 

[bmwquay]

This is a passionate subject with me. I never had any insurance to cover Cpap machines/masks so I was always looking for ways t cut costs.
When I first got my first machine in Ontario it was mostly covered by OHIP. The mask was not covered. This was 15 yrs. Jesus time flys.

I found the cpap industry felt like used car sales. Once insurance provides coverage then the price goes up all over. The price is very CONTOLLED across Canada like APPLE products. In the USA prices are much better even with the $$ exchange. Years ago I started ordering from CPAP.COM and never purchased in Canada again.

I fond used and new machines for sale on Kijiji. A good if you have no insurance. You don't need a any expert to adjust the machine pressures if there is no auto increase. Lots of info on the sleep apnea forms.

The machines and sleep apnea were greatly over prescribed for a few years. There are other ways to control sleep apnea ...nothing wrong wih machines when needed. There are dental deceives, tongue extenders which can all work well. These should be tried first before the big cash/insurance outlay first.

One of the popular remedies which work are tap[ing the mouth. Yes it work! I use it all the time. Again not for everyone.

Sleep position can improve breathing too. Most Sleep apnea can be improved by sleeping on your side. It Stops snoring because your tongue doesn't slide nack into your throat stopping breathing. This is my issues. The ear nose throat specialist said my tongue was larger than normal.
Look on Amazon for sleep noodles. Cheap compared to a machine.


I had to rant. I hate the industry. It all about money. Then again isn't everything else.

I


I

So all it took to stop your sleep apnea was taping your mouth? I have never heard that before. How does that work from stopping breathing obstruction? I use to sleep on my side but last few years sleeping exclusively on my back. The Sleep Doctor told me dental guard is only about 70% effective or so. There's also another complication. Could be permanent movement of the jaw mouth and jaw structure but don't recall fully what he said. He also said CPAP or APAP is almost 100% effective.

 

[bmwquay]

Auto increase or ramp is where the machine starts to where it goes to your actual pressures. That increase, or ramp, can be delayed when you start the machine so that when you turn it on, the pressure is very mild. You then have time to fall asleep and the machine will then increase/ramp pressure up to your actual required settings after that period of time.

I tried the machine for the first time yesterday. For whatever reason when the pressure started at 4 I had a suffocating feeling like I wasn't getting enough air. Felt better as the pressure ramped up. After about 10 minutes or so of experimenting I decided to sleep without it for another night. Do all CPAP machines now auto increase to a pressure after receiving feedback from monitors. Before yesterday I thought one had to preset a pressure and through trial and error find the right pressure that works best.

 

[bmwquay]

This is where to do your research. Good tip m...

Resmed is the big name in the industry. My machine is not Resmed, my mask's are, which I buy from Amazon (could be cpap.com supplier).
I also found the hose too short, I am single and toss and turn all over, so I bought a second hose and connect the two. I also buy extra hoses because I rip them to shreds when I am high and the hose lands on my face, I freak out.

As mention The cpac



The sleep test should have fine tuned the pressure to a single value, not 5-15. There was a huge jump(difference) for me when I went from 7 to 10 (after sleep study).
That pressure is an Rx as you mentioned, I believe the pressure and settings are locked, my units always were.

The vendor will handle all the paperwork for OHIP and also will show you how to velcro the strap around your head to justify they have given you medical instruction.

Humidifier, is also (as mentioned by "/u Meaning") too hot for me, I don't use it, the hose is actually heated. The humidifier and hose must be cleaned every night else you risk serious bacterial growth.

At the CPAP vendor site I was told that the machine ramps up to a pressure setting based on sensors and monitors. There is no way to preset a specific pressure on the Resmed machine. I didn't realize the hose needed to be washed daily. I thought once a week was suffiicient. You actually wash your 6 foot hose in soapy water every day? The mask nose/mouth piece I can understand washing daily.

 

[spankey]

My understanding is coverage for replacements like masks and hose is covered by insurance every 6 months and a new machine every 5 years. Is this correct?

It seems to me that is correct,
I returned to my supplier when I was eligible for an updated device. I was informed by the store representative that just because I was eligible didn’t mean I would receive an updated version of the machine. I explained to her the newer machines were much quieter and my SO would benefit from an upgrade. She wouldn’t budge.

About a month later my device stopped working. I took it to the store for replacement and was advised I would receive a loaner machine that day to use and her supervisor would be in touch with me to discuss a replacement. That day I walked out their door with a new updated loaner.

That was seven years ago…the supervisor hasn’t contacted me yet, nor has an invoice been received.

 

[jeff2]

Not to be confused with CRAP machines.

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