Today I was among the journalists who have attended a private screening of the raw footage of October 7th and I want to express to you what I saw since it’s not been made public. It’s been a very heavy day. A decision was made that Jews are less than human, and treated that way in words and deeds..I now know that’s exactly the message Hamas sent on purpose — at scale. I wasn’t aware of that before. I saw bodies were burned but I did not understand or appreciate how intentional the effort was - they did it methodically, you hear it in the voices, the commands the ease, the excitement of finding and mutilating victims.
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Today I was among the journalists who have attended a private screening of the raw footage of October 7th and I want to express to you what I saw since it’s not been made public. It’s been a very heavy day. A decision was made that Jews are less than human, and treated that way in words and deeds..I now know that’s exactly the message Hamas sent on purpose — at scale. I wasn’t aware of that before. I saw bodies were burned but I did not understand or appreciate how intentional the effort was - they did it methodically, you hear it in the voices, the commands the ease, the excitement of finding and mutilating victims.
No, mandrill, this report which is already 5 days old came from the WHO.
WHO: Gaza 'Catastrophic' Health Situation Almost Impossible to Improve
Countries propose motion to boost medical access
www.voanews.com
You, shack and basketcase are dismissive of every single legit source of information.
Every single one.
As noted on another thread, Hamas had been dressing hostages in hijabs when they had to move them in open air.Israeli military says its troops shot and killed three hostages by mistake
IDF identifies hostages killed as Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz and Samer El-Talalqa, saying they were mistakenly believed to be a threat
The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.
The announcement on Friday came amid heavy fighting across the embattled territory that led to an influx of dead and wounded into hospitals in Deir al-Balah, Khan Younis and Rafah.
Separately, the Qatar-based television network Al Jazeera said that one of its journalists was killed and and another was injured in a drone strike while reporting in Khan Younis.
The army identified the three killed hostages as Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz, who were taken from Kfar Aza kibbutz during Hamas’s 7 October attack, and Samer El-Talalqa, taken from Nir Am kibbutz.
The hostages were killed in the Gaza City area of Shejaiya, where troops have been engaged in fierce fighting with Hamas militants in recent days.
The exact circumstances of their deaths were not immediately clear. In a statement late on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said: “During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”
Army spokesperson Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said it was believed that the three had either fled their captors or been abandoned. “Perhaps in the last few days, or over the past day – we still don’t know all the details – they reached this area,” he said. He said the army expressed “deep sorrow” and was investigating.
Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a statement: “Together with the entire people of Israel, I bow my head in deep sorrow and mourn the death of three of our dear sons who were kidnapped. My heart goes out to the grieving families in their difficult time.”
Al Jazeera initially said that video journalist Samer Abu Daqqa and its chief correspondent in Gaza, Wael al-Dahdouh, had been injured by shrapnel when they were reporting at a school that had been hit by an earlier airstrike.
In a subsequent statement condemning the Israeli military, Al Jazeera attributed the injuries to a drone strike: “Following Samer’s injury, he was left to bleed to death for over five hours, as Israeli forces prevented ambulances and rescue workers from reaching him, denying the much-needed emergency treatment.”
Dahdouh, who lost several members of his family in Israeli bombings last month, was wounded in the arm and transferred to Nasser hospital in Khan Younis.
Earlier on Friday, the IDF recovered the bodies of three other hostages in Gaza: Elya Toledano, 28, a French-Israeli civilian, and two soldiers, Nik Beizer and Ron Scherman, both 19.
The military said they were identified in a process carried out by medical officials, military rabbis and forensic experts. It did not give further details of the circumstances of their death, or from where in Gaza they were recovered.
About 240 people were taken hostage when Hamas gunmen breached the separation barrier into Israel on 7 October and killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians.
Israel’s ensuing offensive in Gaza has killed more than 18,700 people, mostly women and children, according to Palestinian officials.
The Israeli government has repeatedly stated that bringing home all of the hostages is one of its chief war aims. But in seven weeks since ground troops pushed into northern Gaza, troops have not rescued any hostages, though they freed one early in the conflict and have found the bodies of several more.
Families of the hostages said this week they were “shocked” by the announcement by the director of Israeli intelligence agency the Mossad that he was refusing to conduct new negotiations to free them, and demanded an explanation from the authorities.
During a week-long truce in late November, Hamas released more than 100 women, children and foreigners it was holding in Gaza in exchange for the release of 240 women and teenagers Israel had imprisoned, many without charge.
According to the Israeli military, more than 130 of the hostages taken to Gaza are still being held. Some have been declared dead in absentia by Israeli authorities.
The Palestinian Prisoners’ Association said Israel has detained more than 4,400 Palestinians since 7 October and is holding around half without charge.
Toledano, who turned 28 in captivity, was among an estimated 240 people taken hostage during the Hamas attacks in southern Israel. A resident of Tel Aviv, he was at the Nova music festival along with his friend and fellow French-Israeli Mia Schem, who was released under a truce agreement at the end of November.
The two friends had tried to flee by car at the start of the attack on the Nova music festival, but their tyres were shot out. Schem had messaged other friends: “They’re shooting at us, come to help us.”
Schem, 21, who was training to be a tattoo artist, was later shown in the first Hamas video of a hostage speaking from captivity. She was released on 30 November.
Israeli military says its troops shot and killed three hostages by mistake
IDF identifies hostages killed as Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz and Samer El-Talalqa, saying they were mistakenly believed to be a threatwww.theguardian.com
So you have to excuse the IDF, they likely thought they were just shooting women again.
'A sad day': Analyst on IDF accidentally killing 3 hostages (youtube.com)
IDF are war criminals and commiting genocide
How the hell it accidentally ?
IDF are war criminals and commiting genocide
How the hell it accidentally ?
Like they accidentally killed 10,000 children and accidentally have killed 70% women and children.
You're having a good day, shack.
I called you out for intentionally lying to misrepresent me.
And dinklemouse says you wrote most offensive post he's seen on this board.
Keep lying about what people say and laughing at the news that 350,000 people are sick because of the Israeli genocide.
You might as well go back to saying nukes are the only way create peace through war.
Jeez all you guys constantly putting up anti-Israel posts.
I hope you were all wearing condoms when you heard about the IDF accidentally killing 3 hostages, cuz I hate to think how yucky that news would have made your undies...
I would challenge every Israel supporter to watch this 8 minute Al Jazeera video.
Because all it does is show the people who live in Gaza, 10 people showing a few moments out of their day.
Its the most subversive video as all it does is show Palestinians as humans.
And I don't think a single one of you could watch it.
Because all it does is show the people who live in Gaza, 10 people showing a few moments out of their day.
Its the most subversive video as all it does is show Palestinians as humans.
And I don't think a single one of you could watch it.
That's just 3 more people that wouldn't have died if there had been a ceasefire.
Who cares which side they are on, the killing just has to stop.
LOL. Says the person who has set the gold standard for lying, trolling and dishonest debating.
You support the massacre of Oct. 7 by continually justifying Hamas' terrorist attack. You are happy that they killed 1,200.
You support Hamas when they say that was only the 1st attack. You have never denounced those statements.
You support "Hamas' declaration of "from the river to the sea", which is an explicit call to eradicate Jews.
You support Hamas' use of human shields.
You call for BDS, which will take years to have any effect. Yet you refuse to acknowledge that a Hamas surrender and release of hostages immediately stops the violence. There is no other strategy that comes remotely close to stopping the violence as quickly. In fact even with a Hamas surrender you can still have your BDS and it will be the same timeline for it to work. You don't support that. The ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION is that you don't care if more Palestinians die.
I suspect your response will be to attack me and the things I've said or didn't say. You know what? That only means that you are not disagreeing with me. You cannot prove that my statements are incorrect, and that is what making you so obviously angry. You're just trying to create an equivalency with me. Do you think that we're morally equivalent?
Here's a suggestion. Why don't you try disputing what I've said point by point. Prove that my conclusions of you are based on anything than a logical path based on your positions. Tell us in a remotely plausible way why you are against Hamas' surrender when it is the fastest way to end the violence. They are clearly losing. Why delay the inevitable when you can save Palestinian lives now. What could possibly a believable reason?
You can denigrate me in a separate post.
As you've noticed, I have not lowered myself to your level of profanity laced rhetoric and fury. As the saying goes, "never argue with........they'll only beat you with experience".
I am sincerely apologetic if I have upset your sensibilities in the slightest. It would be the furthest thing my actual intent.
What is truly disgusting is frank's blatant hypocrisy.
He supports the Oct. 7 attack and he full well knew in advance that there would be reprisals and that Palestinian civilians would suffer. But now that these reprisals are happening in real life he whining about them. I have the utmost sympathy for innocent civilians, but it does not mean that I am not allowed to expose his hypocrisy.
Sorry if you are offended that your HIGH PRIEST OF HATE is being challenged.
Thanks. It's actually being dismissive (and appropriately so) of frank's history of misleading posts and not at all to do the plight of the civilians. He supports the attack but then complains about the repercussions which he, and everybody else, knew were inevitable. Sorry he can't have it both ways. The fake tears were for him, not the civilians of Gaza.
Unlike frank, I wish that Oct. 7 would never have happened.
All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players.
These Gazan fucks play the roles of "freedom fighters", "innocent civilians", "refugees (after 75 years)", "UN workers", "hospital staff" when in reality they are all 72 virgins loving muslim trash who tortured and murdered thousands of Israelis, just bomb them all, and deport whoever left. If Kuwait could do it, so could Israel.
My last post in this thread as well. Sick of Frankhooter's garbage, have better things to do with my time then listening to the same lies over and over.
These Gazan fucks play the roles of "freedom fighters", "innocent civilians", "refugees (after 75 years)", "UN workers", "hospital staff" when in reality they are all 72 virgins loving muslim trash who tortured and murdered thousands of Israelis, just bomb them all, and deport whoever left. If Kuwait could do it, so could Israel.
My last post in this thread as well. Sick of Frankhooter's garbage, have better things to do with my time then listening to the same lies over and over.
