These are all extreme Palestinian propaganda accounts, Frankie. They're about as credible on the topic as hairs on my asshole.
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That's a bit like arguing that Mussolini's mobs yelled 'but the trains are on time'.
If you want to bring the hostages home you stop firing and negotiate, again, with Hamas.
Israel already proved that worked and bombing the shit out of them only kills more hostages.
Do you even think things through anymore, mandrill?
The US, confirming that Israel was running Gaza like a concentration camp.
This was about the same time they were counting calories for every person in Gaza and keeping them as close to starvation levels as they could get away with.
Israel used 'calorie count' to limit Gaza food during blockade, critics claim
Defence ministry files on 'avoiding' civilian malnutrition are proof Israel used food restrictions to hit Hamas, says Palestine group
www.theguardian.com
Yet for some reason you don't think Israel has ever done anything wrong and its all Hamas' fault.
The hairs on your ass are probably the only thing honest left on you, mandrill.
Team zionists have attacked Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem, Al Jazeera, Haaretz, CBC, the UN, ICRC and pretty much every single legit source of news or human rights reports.
You just called Haaretz 'extreme Palestinian propaganda', now you're doing the same thing.
Have you really joined the zionists in only accepting IDF statements as fact?
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
jewishcurrents.org
Only the US has vetoed UN SC resolutions against Israel, that has been massive for them.
Otherwise, there are only Canada and the US back Israeli war crimes like settlements.
Biden will lose to trump over this and Trudeau won't be reelected.
Support genocide through zionism is now politically toxic.
Its always fun when when the Left gets a taste of their own cancel culture 
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You know that the GOP is even more pro Israel than the Dems, huh?Only the US has vetoed UN SC resolutions against Israel, that has been massive for them.
Otherwise, there are only Canada and the US back Israeli war crimes like settlements.
Biden will lose to trump over this and Trudeau won't be reelected.
Support genocide through zionism is now politically toxic.
Dream on, Frankie.
Hamas drugged hostages to 'look happy,' Israeli officials say (msn.com)
Hamas drugged the hostages who were released during the ceasefire so that they would “look happy” during the transfer to the Red Cross in Gaza, according to Israel’s Health Ministry.
The captives were tranquilized as part of the terrorist group’s propaganda to make it seem like they were treated well after suffering more than 50 days of physical and psychological abuse , ministry officials told lawmakers at a hearing of the Knesset Health Committee on Tuesday.
Dr. Hagar Mizrahi, head of the Health Ministry’s medical division, said the hostages were administered Clonazepam, a mood-enhancing drug used to treat seizures and panic disorders. It is known as Clonex in Israel and sold under the brand names Klonopin and Rivotril elsewhere.
Normally administered orally, the drug has a calming effect on the nervous system. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, impaired coordination and fatigue.
Long-term use or misuse of the medication can lead to dependency, tolerance and withdrawal symptoms.
Mizrahi did not indicate whether this was based on blood tests, testimonies of the hostages or both.
The abductees were also given a larger meal before returning to Israel. Hospitals reported severe weight loss in many of the freed hostages, indicating starvation-like conditions.
Hamas documented the releases for propaganda purposes, which showed some of the hostages appearing friendly or in a positive mood.
Shir Siegel, whose mother, Aviva, was freed but whose father, Keith, remains captive, also spoke to the committee.
“My mother came back with testimonies that I can’t hear. I can’t hear her talking about the fact that they were handcuffed, that they were abused. There were rumors that the conditions are fine—they are not given food and water. For us to speak, there is a Holocaust three hours’ drive from here,” Siegel said.
Heath Committee Chairman Yonatan Mishraki (Shas) ordered the Health Ministry to publish a detailed report about the drugging and other medical conditions of the released hostages and to send them to other health organizations around the world.
Eighty-one Israelis were freed in exchange for terrorists held in Israeli prisons during the truce. Hamas also released 23 Thais and one Filipino.
Hamas currently holds 137 men, women and children in Gaza.
At least 1,200 people were killed in Hamas’s attacks on Israeli communities near the Gaza border on Oct. 7. Some people remain unaccounted for as Israeli authorities continue to identify bodies and search for human remains.
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Hamas drugged the hostages who were released during the ceasefire so that they would “look happy” during the transfer to the Red Cross in Gaza, according to Israel’s Health Ministry.
The captives were tranquilized as part of the terrorist group’s propaganda to make it seem like they were treated well after suffering more than 50 days of physical and psychological abuse , ministry officials told lawmakers at a hearing of the Knesset Health Committee on Tuesday.
Dr. Hagar Mizrahi, head of the Health Ministry’s medical division, said the hostages were administered Clonazepam, a mood-enhancing drug used to treat seizures and panic disorders. It is known as Clonex in Israel and sold under the brand names Klonopin and Rivotril elsewhere.
Normally administered orally, the drug has a calming effect on the nervous system. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, impaired coordination and fatigue.
Long-term use or misuse of the medication can lead to dependency, tolerance and withdrawal symptoms.
Mizrahi did not indicate whether this was based on blood tests, testimonies of the hostages or both.
The abductees were also given a larger meal before returning to Israel. Hospitals reported severe weight loss in many of the freed hostages, indicating starvation-like conditions.
Hamas documented the releases for propaganda purposes, which showed some of the hostages appearing friendly or in a positive mood.
Shir Siegel, whose mother, Aviva, was freed but whose father, Keith, remains captive, also spoke to the committee.
“My mother came back with testimonies that I can’t hear. I can’t hear her talking about the fact that they were handcuffed, that they were abused. There were rumors that the conditions are fine—they are not given food and water. For us to speak, there is a Holocaust three hours’ drive from here,” Siegel said.
Heath Committee Chairman Yonatan Mishraki (Shas) ordered the Health Ministry to publish a detailed report about the drugging and other medical conditions of the released hostages and to send them to other health organizations around the world.
Eighty-one Israelis were freed in exchange for terrorists held in Israeli prisons during the truce. Hamas also released 23 Thais and one Filipino.
Hamas currently holds 137 men, women and children in Gaza.
At least 1,200 people were killed in Hamas’s attacks on Israeli communities near the Gaza border on Oct. 7. Some people remain unaccounted for as Israeli authorities continue to identify bodies and search for human remains.
Our website is the place for the latest breaking news, exclusive scoops, longreads and provocative commentary. Please bookmark nationalpost.com and sign up for our daily newsletter, Posted, here.
Hamas may have made millions by short-selling Israeli stocks before Oct. 7 | National Post
Hamas may have made millions by short-selling Israeli investments before its terror attacks
A study finds 'strong evidence' that investors who knew Hamas attacks were coming profited through twisted insider trading
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The researchers found a substantial overall increase in short investments in Israeli companies listed on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange which peaked just before the launch of the Oct. 7 attacks. PHOTO BY ARIEL
People with advance knowledge of the Oct. 7 terror attacks on Israel by Hamas may have financially profited from the deadly strikes through significant short-selling of shares in Israeli companies, a study says.
“Days before the attack, traders appeared to anticipate the events to come,” says the research paper by U.S. financial law specialists.
“Our findings offer strong evidence that informed traders profited by anticipating the events of October 7,” according to the unpublished study that notes the specific reasons behind such unusual trading is not known, but suggests twisted insider trading could be a means of terrorist financing or terror profiteering.
In the financial world, selling short is a way of investing in a stock so that profit comes from the value of the stock dropping, rather than the usual approach of buying shares and hoping their value rises.
Many stocks typically have a quick drop at news of explosive world events expected to bring widespread chaos or uncertainty.
Robert Jackson, Jr. and Joshua Mitts studied data from the days leading to the Hamas attacks on a leading exchange-traded fund composed of a broad base of Israeli equities that reflect Israel’s economy, as well as individual Israeli companies listed on stock exchanges in both the United States and Israel.
Jackson, a former commissioner of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, is a professor of law at New York University. Mitts is a law professor at Columbia Law School, also in New York, who is known for using data analysis in research on corporate and securities law.
Their research paper is a pre-print released through the Social Science Research Network, meaning it has not been published in a peer-review journal.
“On Oct. 2, short interest in the MSCI Israel Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) suddenly, and significantly, spiked. And just before the attack, short selling of Israeli securities on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange increased dramatically,” the paper says.
Data shows the increase in short selling “is economically and statistically unusual,” the authors say — so much so, almost all reported off-exchange trading volume of the ETF on Oct. 2 was short selling, with another spike immediately before the attack.
It is “extremely unlikely that the volume of short selling on Oct. 2 occurred by random chance … (and likely) was related to the Hamas attack rather than random noise.
“The short selling that day far exceeded the short selling that occurred during numerous other periods of crisis, including the recession following the financial crisis, the 2014 Israel-Gaza war, and the COVID-19 pandemic,” the paper says.
The researchers found a substantial overall increase in short investments in Israeli companies listed on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) which peaked just before the launch of the Oct. 7 attacks.
The same spike was not as clearly seen for Israeli companies listed on U.S. exchanges, but a rough and preliminary examination shows more interest in a drop in Israel’s economy leading up to the October attacks, the paper says.
The authors suggest the lack of impact on U.S. exchanges could be because many of the large companies are military related, businesses that could be expected to benefit from an attack on Israel, and others have strong international presences with less susceptibility to events inside Israel.
The study data showed that one company, a large Israeli bank called Bank Leumi, had a nearly 50 per cent increase in short activity from Sept. 14 to Oct. 5. The bank’s share price dropped nearly 23 per cent after the attacks, which, on short selling, could yield profits (or avoided losses) of 30 million New Israeli Shekel, which is almost C$11 million.
“In light of the profoundly tragic toll of such attacks,” the paper says of investors having foreknowledge of terror attacks, “society should encourage disclosure of such information rather than trading — that is, prevention of tragedy rather than profit from it.
“Policymakers should examine the degree to which market activity can provide national-security and intelligence authorities with information about the probability of an attack,” the paper says.
Jessica Davis, a Canadian counterterrorism and intelligence consultant, is cautious about the meaning of the study’s findings.
Davis said Hamas and its supporters “absolutely have the financial sophistication to do this,” but warned that similar findings about previous terrorist attacks have been found to be false, or attributable to other factors other than terrorists shorting for financial profit.
“That seems like a lot of traceable activity for people who were trying to keep an impending terrorist attack quiet,” Davis wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
“I think a more plausible explanation for this activity will be multi-faceted. Will there be some people who shorted the stocks because they knew about the attack? Probably. Will it be in the millions of dollars? Maybe. But this volume? Skeptical.”
She also said the world’s financial markets are so regulated that it seems likely the identifies of the profiteers will one day be known.
There is a Canadian precedent for a terrorist planning to do exactly what the study’s authors believe Hamas did.
Shareef Abdelhaleem, one of the architects behind the Toronto 18 terror plot, was an avid investor and stock trader before his arrest in 2006 and he said at his parole hearings he aimed to profit by short-selling stocks before the attacks.
He said one of the planned targets for the truck bombs the group was building was the Toronto Stock Exchange and he knew that if successful it would wreck the Canadian economy.
He said this was about his personal greed, though, not as a means to fund more terrorist activities.
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Hamas may have made millions by short-selling Israeli investments before its terror attacks
A study finds 'strong evidence' that investors who knew Hamas attacks were coming profited through twisted insider trading
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The researchers found a substantial overall increase in short investments in Israeli companies listed on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange which peaked just before the launch of the Oct. 7 attacks. PHOTO BY ARIEL
People with advance knowledge of the Oct. 7 terror attacks on Israel by Hamas may have financially profited from the deadly strikes through significant short-selling of shares in Israeli companies, a study says.
“Days before the attack, traders appeared to anticipate the events to come,” says the research paper by U.S. financial law specialists.
“Our findings offer strong evidence that informed traders profited by anticipating the events of October 7,” according to the unpublished study that notes the specific reasons behind such unusual trading is not known, but suggests twisted insider trading could be a means of terrorist financing or terror profiteering.
In the financial world, selling short is a way of investing in a stock so that profit comes from the value of the stock dropping, rather than the usual approach of buying shares and hoping their value rises.
Many stocks typically have a quick drop at news of explosive world events expected to bring widespread chaos or uncertainty.
Robert Jackson, Jr. and Joshua Mitts studied data from the days leading to the Hamas attacks on a leading exchange-traded fund composed of a broad base of Israeli equities that reflect Israel’s economy, as well as individual Israeli companies listed on stock exchanges in both the United States and Israel.
Jackson, a former commissioner of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, is a professor of law at New York University. Mitts is a law professor at Columbia Law School, also in New York, who is known for using data analysis in research on corporate and securities law.
Their research paper is a pre-print released through the Social Science Research Network, meaning it has not been published in a peer-review journal.
“On Oct. 2, short interest in the MSCI Israel Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) suddenly, and significantly, spiked. And just before the attack, short selling of Israeli securities on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange increased dramatically,” the paper says.
Data shows the increase in short selling “is economically and statistically unusual,” the authors say — so much so, almost all reported off-exchange trading volume of the ETF on Oct. 2 was short selling, with another spike immediately before the attack.
It is “extremely unlikely that the volume of short selling on Oct. 2 occurred by random chance … (and likely) was related to the Hamas attack rather than random noise.
“The short selling that day far exceeded the short selling that occurred during numerous other periods of crisis, including the recession following the financial crisis, the 2014 Israel-Gaza war, and the COVID-19 pandemic,” the paper says.
The researchers found a substantial overall increase in short investments in Israeli companies listed on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) which peaked just before the launch of the Oct. 7 attacks.
The same spike was not as clearly seen for Israeli companies listed on U.S. exchanges, but a rough and preliminary examination shows more interest in a drop in Israel’s economy leading up to the October attacks, the paper says.
The authors suggest the lack of impact on U.S. exchanges could be because many of the large companies are military related, businesses that could be expected to benefit from an attack on Israel, and others have strong international presences with less susceptibility to events inside Israel.
The study data showed that one company, a large Israeli bank called Bank Leumi, had a nearly 50 per cent increase in short activity from Sept. 14 to Oct. 5. The bank’s share price dropped nearly 23 per cent after the attacks, which, on short selling, could yield profits (or avoided losses) of 30 million New Israeli Shekel, which is almost C$11 million.
“In light of the profoundly tragic toll of such attacks,” the paper says of investors having foreknowledge of terror attacks, “society should encourage disclosure of such information rather than trading — that is, prevention of tragedy rather than profit from it.
“Policymakers should examine the degree to which market activity can provide national-security and intelligence authorities with information about the probability of an attack,” the paper says.
Jessica Davis, a Canadian counterterrorism and intelligence consultant, is cautious about the meaning of the study’s findings.
Davis said Hamas and its supporters “absolutely have the financial sophistication to do this,” but warned that similar findings about previous terrorist attacks have been found to be false, or attributable to other factors other than terrorists shorting for financial profit.
“That seems like a lot of traceable activity for people who were trying to keep an impending terrorist attack quiet,” Davis wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
“I think a more plausible explanation for this activity will be multi-faceted. Will there be some people who shorted the stocks because they knew about the attack? Probably. Will it be in the millions of dollars? Maybe. But this volume? Skeptical.”
She also said the world’s financial markets are so regulated that it seems likely the identifies of the profiteers will one day be known.
There is a Canadian precedent for a terrorist planning to do exactly what the study’s authors believe Hamas did.
Shareef Abdelhaleem, one of the architects behind the Toronto 18 terror plot, was an avid investor and stock trader before his arrest in 2006 and he said at his parole hearings he aimed to profit by short-selling stocks before the attacks.
He said one of the planned targets for the truck bombs the group was building was the Toronto Stock Exchange and he knew that if successful it would wreck the Canadian economy.
He said this was about his personal greed, though, not as a means to fund more terrorist activities.
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Freedom fighters are entitled to steal money from colonial powers! It’s self defence!
One witness who testified on video.
No bodies, no names of victims, no proof shown outside of the IDF.
How many victims?
How many dead?
How many survived?
BBC also published a story saying Hamas beheaded 40 babies.
Why should this one be taken any more seriously?
“Beheaded Babies” Report Spread Wide and Fast — but Israel Military Won’t Confirm It
The Israel Defense Forces could not confirm a horrific claim that Hamas beheaded babies during a weekend assault, a spokesperson for the military told The Intercept.
theintercept.com
Holy shit, you posted that story as if it meant something?
There is no evidence, just an allegation that maybe, possibly, something could have happened.
What happened to you, mandrill?
You used to be able to read news stories and check their credibility.
Now its post whatever you can find about Hamas to justify your support of genocide.
Apparently IfNotNow and Independent Jewish Voices of Canada are all antisemites.
As are 80% of dems who back a ceasefire and pretty much anyone who doesn't back genocide.
Israel is going to smash every arms depot HAMAS owns and then hunt those motherfuckers down until they kill them. And then they'll get the hostages back as well.That's a bit like arguing that Mussolini's mobs yelled 'but the trains are on time'.
If you want to bring the hostages home you stop firing and negotiate, again, with Hamas.
Israel already proved that worked and bombing the shit out of them only kills more hostages.
Do you even think things through anymore, mandrill?
The US, confirming that Israel was running Gaza like a concentration camp.
This was about the same time they were counting calories for every person in Gaza and keeping them as close to starvation levels as they could get away with.
Israel used 'calorie count' to limit Gaza food during blockade, critics claim
Defence ministry files on 'avoiding' civilian malnutrition are proof Israel used food restrictions to hit Hamas, says Palestine group
Yet for some reason you don't think Israel has ever done anything wrong and its all Hamas' fault.
There's going to be a BIG ass HAMAS bodycount in the next couple of weeks, Frankie. All those rape-torture-killing HAMAS motherfuckers are going to be stacked 20 bodies high on the main square in Khan Younis while the IDF dances around them singing Yiddish folk songs.
How is it genocide, Frankie?
Those Palestinians are there looking pretty happy dancing around taking photographs of the hostages.
Mandrill, you're smarter than to keep claiming everyone who doesn't support zionism and/or genocide is automatically a Hamas supporter.
25% of US Jews already thought Israel is apartheid before this war.
By your terms, they are now antisemitic HAMAS lovers.
Zionism is just a colonial movement.
You want more genocide?
You need more pictures of the kids you want killed?
This is just an extract from your article:One witness who testified on video.
No bodies, no names of victims, no proof shown outside of the IDF.
How many victims?
How many dead?
How many survived?
BBC also published a story saying Hamas beheaded 40 babies.
Why should this one be taken any more seriously?
“Beheaded Babies” Report Spread Wide and Fast — but Israel Military Won’t Confirm It
The Israel Defense Forces could not confirm a horrific claim that Hamas beheaded babies during a weekend assault, a spokesperson for the military told The Intercept.
Ziv also noted that while the scene was “horrific, with dozens of bodies of Israelis murdered in their homes,” he had not seen evidence of the beheaded babies. Other reporters on the ground said that an Israeli soldier told a BBC journalist that “some of the dead had been beheaded,” while at least two other journalists later deleted tweets referencing the reports.
“Just looked at today’s UK front pages and I am horrified by the headlines claiming ‘40 babies beheaded by Hamas’ in Kfar Aza,” Guardian reporter Bethan McKernan tweeted on Tuesday. “Yes, many children were murdered. Yes, there were several beheadings in the attack. This claim, however, is unverified and totally irresponsible.”
So here's your big victory. Children were murdered by HAMAS. People were beheaded by HAMAS. But it has not yet been definitively confirmed that babies were beheaded and whether it was 40 babies or some other number.
That's quite a "win" you got there, Frankie.
The IDF doesn't murder babies. HAMAS does.
It's a war zone, Frankie. Of course, shit's fucked up. That's what happens in a war zone.
You really think Palestinians are happy and dancing right now?
That's pretty twisted, even by the Islamaphobes like phil, this is pretty dark.
You think these are happy dancing people?
