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Israel at war

basketcase

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Franky keeps talking about the ICC. I wonder what excuses he's making to ignore them here.


In both Kibbutz Beeri and Kibbutz Kfar Azza, as well as at the site of the Nova Music Festival in Re’im, I witnessed scenes of calculated cruelty. The attacks against innocent Israeli civilians on 7 October represent some of the most serious international crimes that shock the conscience of humanity, crimes which the ICC was established to address. In my meeting with the families of the victims of these attacks, my message was clear: we stand ready to work in partnership with them as part of our ongoing work to hold those responsible to account. I also stand ready to engage with relevant national authorities in line with the principle of complementarity at the heart of the Rome Statute. Such engagement, like my visit, would be without prejudice to the position of Israel on jurisdiction, and as a non-State Party to the Rome Statute.

I called for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages taken by Hamas and other terror organisations. There can be no justification for the holding of any hostages, and in particular the egregious breach of fundamental principles of humanity through the taking and continued holding of children. Hostages cannot be treated as human shields or bargaining chips.

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In relation to Gaza, and notwithstanding any ongoing violations of international humanitarian law by Hamas and other armed groups in the Gaza Strip, the manner in which Israel responds to these attacks is subject to clear legal parameters that govern armed conflict. Conflict in densely populated areas where fighters are alleged to be unlawfully embedded in the civilian population is inherently complex, but international humanitarian law must still apply and the Israeli military knows the law that must be applied.

As I have stated previously, Israel has trained lawyers who advise commanders and a robust system intended to ensure compliance with international humanitarian law. Credible allegations of crimes during the current conflict should be the subject of timely, independent examination and investigation. On this visit, I again stressed that the clear legal principles of distinction, precaution and proportionality must be complied with so that the protection of the law is rendered meaningful for those who need it. I emphasised that not only must the letter of the law be complied with, but also the spirit upheld. International humanitarian law and the provisions of the Rome Statute are there to protect the most vulnerable.

 

mandrill

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Try as you might, he produced the evidence the video. You can’t unwind reality.
He's notorious for distorting stuff. And the allegations against Hamas are now pretty much accepted as true. Nice try. Do better.
 
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mandrill

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Your conspiracy theories are getting more florid by the moment.
No. I got to know all these guys by following the Ukraine War for a couple of years. These guys are paid mouthpieces. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE WIKI ARTICLES STATING THAT THEY ARE PAID MOUTHPIECES.

If these notorious bullshitters are who you rely on, people are going to simply laugh at you.
 
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mandrill

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Let’s learn a little about the chief Israeli investigator on the rapes issue. She’s being touted as a human rights advocate. Hardly. Read it and try not to laugh.

More Blumenthal. Do better.

Here's a challenge for you. Go find the same material NOT written by Blumenthal, Mate, Galloway, Hinkley or someone else who isn't written up in Wiki as a Kremlin stooge and liar.
 
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Conil

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At this point I feel like I have to stop caring about American elections. I used to really hate Trump because he is a criminal but if the Dems are buddy buddy with hamas who are even bigger criminals I am going to stop giving a shit.
Yesterday Dana Bash gave it to Jayapal for minimizing the rapes of Israeli women by Hamas.
 

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State Department: Some women not released because Hamas doesn't want them to talk

State Department spokesman Mathew Miller says Hamas is afraid of what some of its hostages will say about how they were treated.

State Department spokesman Mathew Miller stated that one of the reasons the temporary ceasefire between Israel and Hamas fell apart last week is that Hamas does not want to release the women it still holds hostage out of fear that they will reveal how badly they have been treated.

"The fact that they continue to hold women hostages, the fact that they continue to hold children hostages, the fact that it seems one of the reasons they don't want to turn women over that they've been holding hostage and the reason this pause fell apart, is they don't want those women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody," he said.

Miller stated that the US has "no reason" to doubt the reports of mass rape and sexual violence committed by Hamas terrorists on October 7. "There is very little that I would put beyond Hamas when it comes to its treatment of civilians, particularly its treatment of women."

When asked if Israel's retaliation for the massacre was also an atrocity, Miller responded that his use of the word atrocity was in response to the "intentional murdering of civilians that we saw Hamas commit."

"I don't think there is anyone questioning that Hamas intentionally killed civilians. That is, by definition, an atrocity," he said, adding that he has "not seen" any evidence that Israel is intentionally killing civilians and that a large part of the death toll in Gaza is due to the fact that "Hamas has embedded itself inside civilian homes, inside mosques and schools and churches. It is Hamas that is putting these civilians in harm's way."

He said that he is "surprised I don't hear more people saying: Why doesn't Hamas lay down its arms? Why doesn't Hamas move out of schools? Why doesn't Hamas take additional steps to protect civilians?"

Miller said that the US has seen an improvement in Israel's ability to avoid causing harm to civilians in the latest stage of the war. “We’ve seen a much more targeted request for evacuations,” he said. “So that is an improvement on what’s happened before.”

He further stated that the US is pressing Israel to allow greater amounts of fuel into Gaza than entered the territory even during the ceasefire last week.

 
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