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Muggy, people actually have psychotic episodes. This is what s. 16 of the Criminal Code says:


Defence of mental disorder

  • 16 (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong.
  • Marginal note:presumption
    (2) Every person is presumed not to suffer from a mental disorder so as to be exempt from criminal responsibility by virtue of subsection (1), until the contrary is proved on the balance of probabilities.
  • Marginal note:Burden of proof
    (3) The burden of proof that an accused was suffering from a mental disorder so as to be exempt from criminal responsibility is on the party that raises the issue.

Now, maybe he didn't and it was a terrorist attack. But it's more likely that the guy's schizophrenic.
Now, maybe he didn't and it was a terrorist attack. But it's more likely that the guy's schizophrenic.
School stabbing: suspect was previously arrested for knife possession - Gript


Couldn't give a shit. Doesn't make him any more of a bargain in my country. Maybe they should screen these cunts before turning them loose on us.

Maybe you can quote the criminal code of Algeria pertaining to foreigners moving there and hacking random Algerians with a knife.

I'll take a "stab" at it if you like. Penalty won't be a cushy rest home with round the clock counselling and a comfy bed.
I believe there they take things like that a little more seriously. The penalties more along the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that by way of rehabilitation.
 
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What the Faily
Now, maybe he didn't and it was a terrorist attack. But it's more likely that the guy's schizophrenic.
School stabbing: suspect was previously arrested for knife possession - Gript


Couldn't give a shit. Doesn't make him any more of a bargain in my country. Maybe they should screen these cunts before turning them loose on us.

Maybe you can quote the criminal code of Algeria pertaining to foreigners moving there and hacking random Algerians with a knife.

I'll take a "stab" at it if you like. Penalty won't be a cushy rest home with round the clock counselling and a comfy bed.
I believe there they take things like that a little more seriously. The penalties more along the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that by way of rehabilitation.
Faily Fail article says pretty much backs me up. And I quote....


The chief suspect in the multiple stabbing that left a five-year-old girl fighting for her life was arrested earlier this year for possession of a knife, the Irish Daily Mail has learned. The man, originally from Algeria, has been living in Ireland for the past two decades. He took Irish citizenship more than a decade ago. The man, who is in his late 40s, has come to Garda attention several times in the past year. The latest incident involved possession of a knife, as well as criminal damage to a car in May.

He was taken to court on the charges but did not receive a conviction. The Mail understands he was not convicted due to a mental health report given to the court.


Sources have told this newspaper that the man was living in Dublin City Council hostel accommodation before he went on the rampage off Parnell Square on Thursday afternoon. The suspect remains in hospital after he was tackled to the ground and subdued by passers-by. Officers are guarding the man. It is believed he will be arrested and formally questioned over the attack which shocked the nation, when he is passed fit by medics.

Gardaí have entered his accommodation and seized phones and other items they believe may have evidential value. One source said: ‘This man came to Ireland in around 2003. In recent times, he’s come to the attention of the gardaí. This was over having a knife on him and him causing damage to a car.

‘It is not accurate to say that this man was constantly causing trouble but he was known to officers in the area since those incidents in May. There is proper security in the hospital where he is being kept also as there is a real fear that he could be attacked by groups of people if they found out where he is,’ they added.

Gardaí said they are keeping an ‘open mind’ about the motive behind the stabbing but have not yet ruled out that this was a terror-related incident.

Another source added: ‘Gardaí are at the very start of the investigation here so they are looking into his background as well as all the incidents he was involved in before this attack happened.

‘There’s a real possibility that this was an incident related to a mental health episode, due to his history, but that’s not like they’re trying to get him off the hook.

‘Every proper procedure is being done and they are going to have to wait until he is well enough physically before they interview him.

‘Gardaí will check if he had any links to Islamic extremism but at this moment in time it’s less of a possibility and it’s more likely this was a mental health incident.’

The Mail has also established that more than 50 gardaí were assaulted during the chaotic scenes on the streets of the capital on Thursday night. Multiple videos shared on social media showed officers being attacked from behind, with one being punched in the back of the head, and having fireworks fired at them by rioters. In another video, a lone garda can be seen fending off a gang of young men assaulting him while on O’Connell Bridge.


So it does appear that your "Islamic Extremist" slant is bullshit, right?

And it's perfectly possible that he would simply be dumped in a loony bin in Algeria, the same way he should - and probably will - be dumped in a loony bin in Ireland. You assume that Arabs are lesser people than yourself, but that assumption is flawed and questionable.

In any event, none of this excuses the White Supremacist mob race riots in Dublin.
 

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Faily Fail article says pretty much backs me up. And I quote....


The chief suspect in the multiple stabbing that left a five-year-old girl fighting for her life was arrested earlier this year for possession of a knife, the Irish Daily Mail has learned. The man, originally from Algeria, has been living in Ireland for the past two decades. He took Irish citizenship more than a decade ago. The man, who is in his late 40s, has come to Garda attention several times in the past year. The latest incident involved possession of a knife, as well as criminal damage to a car in May.

He was taken to court on the charges but did not receive a conviction. The Mail understands he was not convicted due to a mental health report given to the court.


Sources have told this newspaper that the man was living in Dublin City Council hostel accommodation before he went on the rampage off Parnell Square on Thursday afternoon. The suspect remains in hospital after he was tackled to the ground and subdued by passers-by. Officers are guarding the man. It is believed he will be arrested and formally questioned over the attack which shocked the nation, when he is passed fit by medics.

Gardaí have entered his accommodation and seized phones and other items they believe may have evidential value. One source said: ‘This man came to Ireland in around 2003. In recent times, he’s come to the attention of the gardaí. This was over having a knife on him and him causing damage to a car.

‘It is not accurate to say that this man was constantly causing trouble but he was known to officers in the area since those incidents in May. There is proper security in the hospital where he is being kept also as there is a real fear that he could be attacked by groups of people if they found out where he is,’ they added.

Gardaí said they are keeping an ‘open mind’ about the motive behind the stabbing but have not yet ruled out that this was a terror-related incident.

Another source added: ‘Gardaí are at the very start of the investigation here so they are looking into his background as well as all the incidents he was involved in before this attack happened.

‘There’s a real possibility that this was an incident related to a mental health episode, due to his history, but that’s not like they’re trying to get him off the hook.

‘Every proper procedure is being done and they are going to have to wait until he is well enough physically before they interview him.

‘Gardaí will check if he had any links to Islamic extremism but at this moment in time it’s less of a possibility and it’s more likely this was a mental health incident.’

The Mail has also established that more than 50 gardaí were assaulted during the chaotic scenes on the streets of the capital on Thursday night. Multiple videos shared on social media showed officers being attacked from behind, with one being punched in the back of the head, and having fireworks fired at them by rioters. In another video, a lone garda can be seen fending off a gang of young men assaulting him while on O’Connell Bridge.


So it does appear that your "Islamic Extremist" slant is bullshit, right?

And it's perfectly possible that he would simply be dumped in a loony bin in Algeria, the same way he should - and probably will - be dumped in a loony bin in Ireland. You assume that Arabs are lesser people than yourself, but that assumption is flawed and questionable.

In any event, none of this excuses the White Supremacist mob race riots in Dublin.
you obviously don't read a fucking thing I write or understand anyway." You assume that Arabs are lesser people than yourself, but that assumption is flawed and questionable."
No I don't. Where did I say that?
I'm not going to answer you point by point because, respectfully, you are full of shit.
 

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you obviously don't read a fucking thing I write or understand anyway." You assume that Arabs are lesser people than yourself, but that assumption is flawed and questionable."
No I don't. Where did I say that?
I'm not going to answer you point by point because, respectfully, you are full of shit.
So here's what you wrote, Muggy.....

Couldn't give a shit. Doesn't make him any more of a bargain in my country. Maybe they should screen these cunts before turning them loose on us.

Maybe you can quote the criminal code of Algeria pertaining to foreigners moving there and hacking random Algerians with a knife.
I'll take a "stab" at it if you like. Penalty won't be a cushy rest home with round the clock counselling and a comfy bed.

I believe there they take things like that a little more seriously. The penalties more along the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that by way of rehabilitation.

You call Arabs "cunts" and complain about "turning them loose on us"

Then you provide your unsolicited opinion that Algerian justice involves "penalties more long the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that"

Now what part of my quotation from your prior post might suggest that you think Arabs are less worthy than you and your friends?..... Oh, pretty much everything you wrote. Right?

Now tell me exactly what I have misconstrued from your own words and how I may have misinterpreted the meaning of your screed?...... :confused:
 

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So here's what you wrote, Muggy.....

Couldn't give a shit. Doesn't make him any more of a bargain in my country. Maybe they should screen these cunts before turning them loose on us.

Maybe you can quote the criminal code of Algeria pertaining to foreigners moving there and hacking random Algerians with a knife.
I'll take a "stab" at it if you like. Penalty won't be a cushy rest home with round the clock counselling and a comfy bed.

I believe there they take things like that a little more seriously. The penalties more along the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that by way of rehabilitation.

You call Arabs "cunts" and complain about "turning them loose on us"

Then you provide your unsolicited opinion that Algerian justice involves "penalties more long the lines of hacking off body parts. Gouging out eyes. stuff like that"

Now what part of my quotation from your prior post might suggest that you think Arabs are less worthy than you and your friends?..... Oh, pretty much everything you wrote. Right?

Now tell me exactly what I have misconstrued from your own words and how I may have misinterpreted the meaning of your screed?...... :confused:
Where's the bit where I called Arabs cunts?
Turning them loose on us is a fair summation when they stab the citizens of the countries they immigrate to.
I call anyone a cunt who moves to another country who is kind enough to let them in and shows their gratitude by being a fucking menace with a knife.
Your insistence that you have scored a major legal argument by saying they had a PSYCHOTIC INCIDENT so although , regrettable, not their fault because they are a brick short a load is sort of laughable. But it's not funny.
Anyway I will leave you to your technicolor soap box.
 
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Where's the bit where I called Arabs cunts?
I actually quoted it directly from your post, Muggy. Did you go delete your post?

Turning them loose on us is a fair summation when they stab the citizens of the countries they immigrate to.
I call anyone a cunt who moves to another country who is kind enough to let them in and shows their gratitude by being a fucking menace with a knife.
It's actually not a "fair summation", is it?

It's not like he woke up one morning and said "I'm going to be a paranoid schizophrenic today and have a psychotic episode where I attack a child with a knife and spark Ireland's biggest race riot in a generation" and then poured himself a cup of coffee and started the Times crossword puzzle, is it?

Mental illness doesn't relate to ethnicity at all and one cannot control it.

And who "turned them loose on us"?..... That's a reference to those bad folks, the immigration authorities who allow brown people to live in white countries, isn't it?..... Oh dear.
Your insistence that you have scored a major legal argument by saying they had a PSYCHOTIC INCIDENT so although , regrettable, not their fault because they are a brick short a load is sort of laughable. But it's not funny.
Anyway I will leave you to your technicolor soap box.
Muggy, you've been doing a strut through all the threads where people have mentioned Arabs using knives to jihad randoms by calling those attacks "psychotic incidents" in quotation marks, thereby implying that I was simply excusing attacks by religious extremists.

But you see, this incident actually was - as I advised you - a genuine psychotic incident. And not a terror attack. I happen to know this stuff because this is what I do at work. So your sad little smartass strut fell apart at the seams. And you're not a big enough man to admit it.

You know, the funny thing is that I know a lot of Arab folk who actually admit when they're wrong. You can't....

I guess they really are different from you after all.
 

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I actually quoted it directly from your post, Muggy. Did you go delete your post?



It's actually not a "fair summation", is it?

It's not like he woke up one morning and said "I'm going to be a paranoid schizophrenic today and have a psychotic episode where I attack a child with a knife and spark Ireland's biggest race riot in a generation" and then poured himself a cup of coffee and started the Times crossword puzzle, is it?

Mental illness doesn't relate to ethnicity at all and one cannot control it.

And who "turned them loose on us"?..... That's a reference to those bad folks, the immigration authorities who allow brown people to live in white countries, isn't it?..... Oh dear.

Muggy, you've been doing a strut through all the threads where people have mentioned Arabs using knives to jihad randoms by calling those attacks "psychotic incidents" in quotation marks, thereby implying that I was simply excusing attacks by religious extremists.

But you see, this incident actually was - as I advised you - a genuine psychotic incident. And not a terror attack. I happen to know this stuff because this is what I do at work. So your sad little smartass strut fell apart at the seams. And you're not a big enough man to admit it.

You know, the funny thing is that I know a lot of Arab folk who actually admit when they're wrong. You can't....

I guess they really are different from you after all.
"I actually quoted it directly from your post, Muggy. Did you go delete your post?"

Show me the quote where I called Arabs cunts.
 
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"I actually quoted it directly from your post, Muggy. Did you go delete your post?"

Show me the quote where I called Arabs cunts.
"Maybe they should screen these cunts before turning them loose on us. "
 

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Again........

"I actually quoted it directly from your post, Muggy. Did you go delete your post?"

Show me the quote where I called Arabs cunts.
I just did. As in "SCREEN" - an immigration term.

Maybe you meant it to apply to other brown and black people as well as Arabs and I'm not doing justice to your deep and sophisticated thought processes. Let me know, Muggy.
 
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