Israel at war
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Nabka 2.0
I'm still shocked at seeing people on this board who argued against MAGA and white supremacy all of sudden show overt racial hatred.
I don't.Nabka 2.0
I'm still shocked at seeing people on this board who argued against MAGA and white supremacy all of sudden show overt racial hatred.
Arabs are just fine.
But Israel has a right to defend itself. And HAMAS has entrenched itself in an urban area. So there's going to be destruction of property and civilian casualties. There always is.
If HAMAS didn't want that, they should not have committed 10/7. Then there would be no IDF invasion.
I could why you're so outraged.
These are posters, god damn it!
Starting to smell the desperation from our resident Hamas supporters. They know the IDF is winning at the moment. That they are slowly but steadily dismantling all the terrorist infrastructure in Gaza City. And that soon that 7 km stretch will be a new DMZ.
Which means 7 km less border to patrol on the West side. The new settlements can slowly start moving forward to the old border with relative safety.
And no doubt several construction firms have contracts lined up to commence the demolition and clean up of Gaza city. It will take years but eventually good things will come.
Which means 7 km less border to patrol on the West side. The new settlements can slowly start moving forward to the old border with relative safety.
And no doubt several construction firms have contracts lined up to commence the demolition and clean up of Gaza city. It will take years but eventually good things will come.
Mandrill, its an occupation. Palestine, including Gaza, are occupied territories. Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people its occupying according to international law.
Its the occupation that is the source of all the violence, not the indigenous people resorting to violence and terrorism. If you call Hamas 'terrorists' for targeting civilians then you need to explain why you don't call Israelis 'terrorists' for doing the same thing but on 10x the scale.
Israel is killing Palestinians all through the West Bank and enabling settler terrorist attacks there at the same time, this is a war on Palestinians, not Hamas. You don't withhold all food and water to 2.3 million civilians on a war on 'terrorism'.
It was always about taking more of Palestine.
Imagine people believing that THEIR RELIGION is THE ONLY religion and then claim it teaches how to be kind, love, etc, only to go out and kill anyone who doesn't believe the same.
Or believing that you're a such a special group of people that you're "the chosen ones".
I'm not picking out any one religion here, but this is the result of all that kind of thinking.
Or believing that you're a such a special group of people that you're "the chosen ones".
I'm not picking out any one religion here, but this is the result of all that kind of thinking.
1. Arabs in Jordan agreed to it because they get the best land...Palestinians don't want Jews to have a state...alongside theirs...and Jerusalem as capital (lOl)I will respond to the 7 things:
1. Palestinians disagree with the premise of Israel. And they WERE right, in 1948, because Israel is the result of colonial paper partition. Britain was a colonial power and they did not have a right to take the land and give it to someone else, who did not live there in the first place. However I will concede that given present day realities the Palestinians should be more reasonable. Now another point to mention is that several in Israel, like Bibi run on a platform of "No Palestinian Statehood". Infact, they DENY Palestinian identity. Like even the label. Further Israel steals land. So the Palestinians do not have state, not just because of their own mistakes, but also because of Israeli maliciousness.
2. That was just Islamaphobia and racism thrown in to elicit an emotional reaction. Plus he used MEMRI which is extreme right wing, fake news media - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-media-research-institute-memri/
3. I agree regarding the refugees. They should already be citizens of the states they immigrated to.
4. Ethnic Cleansing is very real, and it is a fact that the Arabs were all driven out of Israel and herded into Gaza and the West Bank, and more than 750K in 1948 left for other countries. Here is Moshe Dayan's quote: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you, because these geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahalal arose in the place of Mahalul, Gevat - in the place of Jibta, Sarid - in the place of Haneifs and Kefar Yehoshua - in the place of Tell Shaman. There is no one place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
As for his comment on why neighbouring Arab nations do not have Jews, it is because Jews CHOSE to move to Israel.
5. True. But as if all these right wingers who support Israel today are LGBTQ+ advocates. Did we forget the thread on TERB titled "The LGBTQ Hate Thread"?
6. Gaza IS a prison. Almost. Israel controls land, air and sea. Strictly controls what goes in and out. Controls essentials like food, power, water - which as you know they were able to cut off while people panicked in darkness at hospitals in Gaza. In 2014, they even restricted calories of food, which is some dystopian bullshit. The 10,000+ dead people should also tell you what a big prison Gaza really is.
7. Notice how when he talks about Gaza and the Palestinians, he refers to and keeps referring to Hamas. Because he wants to equate Palestinians with Hamas. Do you think Palestinians even care about the Hamas charter?
In short, Hamas are Palestinians. Palestinians are not Hamas. And this is some ultra-right wing, Bibi-esque propaganda and pseudo-historical revisionism.
2. That was an extremist objective ( Hamas agrees to it)
4. How can you claim etchnic cleansing of arabs "driven" out of Israel where there is still substantial Muslim Arabs inside Israel...compared it to How many Jews live COMFORTABLY in Syria, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon?
5. What's right wingers got to do with this argument?
6. Hamas controls anything that goes to Gaza...If they can bring building materials to build tunnels and make rockets...what stops them from bringing goods for the palestinians?
7. Palestinians care bout the Hamas charter enough to vote for them...
Stop arguing about the history.
Just ceasefire, end the occupation and end apartheid.
Keep crying .... Hamas are still firing rockets...Israel is offering a 3 day pause if hostages are released...that's a step forward...but no...Hamas wants more blood....who really causes the deaths of Palestinians here?
There were 233 settler terrorist attacks in 2023 before Oct 7.
No Israel supporter called out any of those terrorist attacks.
Not one.
