Israel at war

[Conil]

How the hell did he even get in ?

Jordanian national living illegally in Texas accused of 'studying how to build bombs' to target Jews

Authorities in Texas have arrested a man accused of "studying how to build bombs" for a possible attack against Jewish people, and the FBI director used his case as an example of increased risk of terror attacks in the U.S.

"We’ve already seen that with the individual we arrested last week in Houston who had been studying how to build bombs and posted online his support for killing Jews," FBI Director Chris Wray said during a congressional hearing this week.

The man he was referring to is 20-year-old Sohaib Abuayyash, FOX 26 confirmed from an FBI source. The FBI referred Fox News Digital to the publicly filed court documents, which show Abuayyash was in the country illegally.
Court documents obtained by the TV station say the Jordanian national arrived in the U.S. on June 2, 2016, on a B2 tourism visa and left about two months later.

"Using a Palestine passport, Abuayyash returned to the United States in June 2019. In January 2020, Abuayyash applied for an Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, which is still pending. In August 2023, Abuayyash was approved for an employment authorization in the United States, allowing him to work in the U.S. until August 1, 2025. Abuayyash’s immigration status doesn’t allow him to possess or use firearms or ammunition," FOX 26 stated.

Abuayyash was arrested in the Houston area in October for unlawful possession of a firearm, according to federal court documents.
A public defender for Abuayyash declined to comment to Fox News Digital.

Abuayyash previously allegedly posted several images and videos of him training with firearms on social media accounts.

Jordanian national living illegally in Texas accused of 'studying how to build bombs' to target Jews: reports

Authorities say a possible attack against Jewish people was diverted by arresting a man who was living in the Houston area while "studying how to build bombs."

www.foxnews.com

 

[shack]

Its apartheid, buddy.
You've already admitted its apartheid and did so again by noting that Israel won't give citizenship

How can they give citizenship to people who do not live within their borders. Israel has never claimed that Gaza is part of the state of Israel.

Would you be happy if Israel claimed that they now own Gaza? That way they could confer citizenship.

Your arguments have so many holes in them they look like fishnet stockings.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

There are also no human shields

Bullshit! Why do you think IDF is sometimes forced to hit hospitals or refugee camps?? If there were no Hamas hiding there there'd be no reason to bomb those places, because it only works in Hamas favor when it comes to worldwide public sentiment.

That refugee bombing supposedly took out a Hamas commander and 25 or so of his loser buddies.
I say its unfortunate for the dead kids, but its ultimately Hamas fault

 

[shack]

No, your celebration of this kind of thing sets the bar way lower.

What celebration? I've never applauded a single death.

All I've done is to show that all the death and suffering of Gazans that you are complaining about in the last 4 weeks, would not have happened if Hamas had not launched the attack on Oct. 7. Explaining what has triggered this is not celebrating it.

 

[Conil]

Hamas needs the fuel to build rockets

Hamas hoarding more than half a million litres of fuel under Gaza hospital: IDF

The IDF also revealed an intercepted call showing that the terror group is stealing fuel from hospitals in the enclave

The Israel Defense Forces released on Friday a recording of a call in which a Gaza health official confirms that Hamas is hoarding fuel and has stored more than half a million litres (over 132,000 gallons) under the Shifa Hospital.

“Hamas controls the diesel,” the health official says in the recording.

“My friend, let’s not talk about Shifa. May God curse Shifa, the health official replies.

The officer then notes that Israel could provide fuel for Shifa, “but if I bring [fuel] to the hospital right now, they [Hamas] will take it. Don’t you agree with me?”

“My friend, you are completely right,” says the health official.

The Palestinian then suggests that Hamas has stashed away more than 1 million liters of fuel underground.

“The call confirms that Hamas controls the energy and fuel resources in the Gaza Strip and chooses to direct them for terrorism,” the IDF said in a statement. “Moreover, if fuel is allowed to enter the Gaza Strip, Hamas plans to seize those resources.

“The IDF will continue to expose information proving that Hamas uses the resources of the civilian population of Gaza for terrorism,” added the military.

The IDF on Wednesday also revealed an intercepted call between Hamas commanders in the Gaza Strip showing that the terror group is stealing fuel from hospitals in the enclave.

The Shifa Hospital, located in the North Rimal neighborhood, has 570 beds and is Gaza’s largest medical center.

Hamas hoarding more than half a million litres of fuel under Gaza hospital: IDF

The IDF also revealed an intercepted call showing that the terror group is stealing fuel from hospitals in the enclave

nationalpost.com

 

[Klatuu]

None of the life sucking hate you hear from the trained seals. These people show the best in humanity.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720505089419292914

 

[DinkleMouse]

There was no proportionality in WWII. Way more Japanese died than Americans. The same with Germany. Were the Americans charged with war crimes?

At the end of a war where there is a winner and loser there is always disproportionality. It is what it is.

Yes. Which is why in the wake of WWII the rules were solidified and clarified. In 1949, to be exact. So no, the Americans were not changed with crimes that didn't exist until 4 or more years later.

I'm also pretty sure, based on this reply, that you haven't read any of the posts where I explained how proportional proportionality works. It isn't able comparing the deaths of 2 different nations. It has to do with demonstrating there was a specific military objective and that the strategic value gained from achieving that objective exceeded the loss of civilian lives.

So if, for example, Hitler was in a hospital, and he Geneva conventions and Rome statute had existed at the time, and there was every reason to believe the German Army would surrender in he event of Hitler's death, one could probably be satisfied that proportional proportionality was met. The objective was German surrender, there was a reasonable expectation the objective would be achieved, and the strategic advantage gained from that would be offset by the loss of life. On the other hand, if the only Nazi in the hospital is General Walter Model, an ok general but not sometime of particular strategic or tactical cunning, it would be difficult to prove proportional proportionality especially since his death doesn't have a precise objective.

For a real life example, the US military observed limousines coming and going from a bomb shelter in Iraq. It determined this bomb shelter was being used as a command and control facility. Military intelligence ascertained the facility could house up to 2000 people but only had about 400 in it. The US bombed it with a bunker buster and claim a number of active missions were hampered as a result. Clear objective, known civilian numbers. Proportional proportionality analysis conducted. And yes, the US was investigated for war crimes for that.

 

[shack]

Who cares??

Actually, it's important to discuss citizenship.

S. Africa introduced laws that discriminated against their own citizens and they named it Apartheid.

They defined what apartheid meant. They set the standards.

From Britannica:

Apartheid, (Afrikaans: “apartness”) policy that governed relations between South Africa’s white minority and nonwhite majority for much of the latter half of the 20th century, sanctioning racial segregation and political and economic discrimination against nonwhites. Although the legislation that formed the foundation of apartheid had been repealed by the early 1990s, the social and economic repercussions of the discriminatory policy persisted into the 21st century.

Blacks were stripped of their South African citizenship and thereby excluded from the South African body politic.

The policy of apartheid only dealt with citizens, so to say Israel is practising apartheid is totally false and is used to trigger people to turn popular opinion against Israel.

 

[shack]

Apartheid means racial segregation. They dont have to be citizens.

Wrong again.

Actually, it's important to discuss citizenship.

S. Africa introduced laws that discriminated against their own citizens and they named it Apartheid.

They defined what apartheid meant. They set the standards.

From Britannica:

Apartheid, (Afrikaans: “apartness”) policy that governed relations between South Africa’s white minority and nonwhite majority for much of the latter half of the 20th century, sanctioning racial segregation and political and economic discrimination against nonwhites. Although the legislation that formed the foundation of apartheid had been repealed by the early 1990s, the social and economic repercussions of the discriminatory policy persisted into the 21st century.

Blacks were stripped of their South African citizenship and thereby excluded from the South African body politic.

The policy of apartheid only dealt with citizens, so to say Israel is practising apartheid is totally false and is only used to trigger people to turn popular opinion against Israel.

 

[shack]

How soon before they start using tattoos?

Are you predicting that? I'll take that bet.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Soldiers. In uniform. So no, it isn't a suicide bomber in a cafe.

Do I need to remind you what you said?

We celebrate a person, who throws themselves on the grenade, or dives into the water to save a life. The firefighter running into the burning building.



We don't celebrate suicide bombers, or mass shooters. The difference is clear. One runs in to save life, the other to take it.

Lt John R. Fox did not "run in to save life". He committed suicide with a bomb to kill the enemy. I never mentioned a cafe, neither did you, so why you bring it up now I don't know.

You can't just keep moving the goalposts. Admit it: we do celebrate people who kill the enemy. And there's nothing wrong with that. But it's ridiculous to pretend we don't.

 

[shack]

Israel is apartheid, your whining is pathetic.

There may be a number of words that you can ascribe to Israel's strategy, but apartheid is not one of them.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Using civilians as shields is a war crime and it precedes a bullet being fired or a bomb being dropped.

Hamas thought that doing that would help them be protected, because they are cowards. Israel is calling their bluff. Hamas is sacrificing their people at every turn. And the people of Gaza are coming to that realization.

It's not a bluff. It would only be a bluff if there were no human shields. But it's known that shitty people do this. There's why the rules of war exist as they do. They are there to protect civilians.

Hamas are guilty of war crimes for using human shields (asking a half dozen other things). If Israel kills the human shields without establishing proportionality, Israel is committed a war crime.

A lot of people keep saying it isn't... Being on Israel's side doesn't change the law. You can't wish it into being lawful. It's a simple fact that knowingly killingly civilians, even if your enemy are war criminals using them as human shields, is a war crime.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Should Hamas be taken to the Hague for the Oct. 7 attack? Clearly they targetted civilians.

Yes.

 

[shack]

How smart is Netanyahu looking?

A lot smarter than Hamas. Gazans are suffering much more than Israel since Oct.7 and more so because of Oct. 7.

 

[shack]

Ceasefire already.
Stop the killing.

Surrender already, return the hostages and thereby stop the killing.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Who cares about the rules of war!!

Where a surprise: the troll who just wanted to cause a stir says war crimes are fine and no one cares about them.

Israel has every right to defend itself.

It sure does! The same right as every other country: Canada, UK, USA, France, Germany, Spain, etc. Exactly the same right to defend itself. And like all them, it's also still bound by the Hague and Geneva Conventions.

Hamas was the one who started the war in the first place on Oct 7/2023!! Also,Israel has the total support of the US, which is a total plus!!

Both true statements. Nether one of which make Hague and Geneva go away.

 

[DinkleMouse]

Who cares?? Is Biden going to go to Israel, and charge the Israeli's??......LMAO

Biden has no authority to do that, so no.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

It is a heinous war crime. For the 100th time, Hamas hiding there, amongst civilians means - Israel should not attack

Here we have it folks, Kautilya is now starting to admit Hamas is hiding amongst civilians.
A few posts before he claimed there's no evidence Hamas was using civilians as human shields.

Link: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/israel-at-war.830323/post-8155988

This is progress for him

 

[Frankfooter]

Do you think that so many Gazans would be dead in the last 4 weeks if Hamas had not launched their attack on Oct 7? Yes or no.

Clearly the answer is no yet you still support that attack. You obviously don't care how many Gazans die.

I don't support Hamas' attack anymore than I support Israel's genocide.
Its just you that supports killing people here.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720526444453834970